Just a thought on Hoke's situation.

[zyxt9]

I know it's actually better than 1/1,000,000. I was just making a joke because the chances are not good. Gardner actually had a few games last year where he looked good. He hasn't had a single good game this year.

We haven't been able to run the ball well except against terrible, terrible teams and Rutgers. We averaged 4.5 YPC against Rutgers. Against any other decent team the best we averaged was 3.3 YPC. That was against Utah. Our YPC (not including App St, Miami OH, and IU) go like this, ND 2.9, Utah 3.3, Minnesota 3.0, Rutgers 4.5, PSU 2.1, MSU 2.3. Maybe Drake helps cure this, but I'm not getting my hopes up because of what he did against IU's revolving door defense.

Our offense just isn't good at anything at that's why I don't think we have hardly any chance to win. Oh and of course turnovers.

You cannot just simply dismiss what DJ did vs Indiana. Hayes was at 3.5 ypc and Smith was at 3.0. They had a combined 13 carries. DJ had 16 carries and a 7.6 ypc. Even if you take out his longest run of 32 yards he had 15 carries at 6.0 ypc. Yes, it is a potential fluke, a high point of the entire season. Yes it was vs a bad IU defense...or are they that bad really since they gave up less than 4 ypc vs the other RBs? Maybe he is legit??? The next two games will give us more insight, but we won't know for certain until the OSU game.

As for turnovers, the D is finally beginning to get some themselves, which is encouraging too. If the offense can minimize TOs while the D maximizes them, they can beat OSU. Yes, it will likely require a +3 TO margin with the TOs happening inside the OSU 30 or returned for TDs, but don't act like those things have never happened in football at all levels. Yes, hoping for a surprisingly good game from a RB who has had 1 good game to date and praying for TOs that lead to TDs is not indicative of having much of a chance, but there is still a chance.

 

[tomdalton22]

You cannot just simply dismiss what DJ did vs Indiana. Hayes was at 3.5 ypc and Smith was at 3.0. They had a combined 13 carries. DJ had 16 carries and a 7.6 ypc. Even if you take out his longest run of 32 yards he had 15 carries at 6.0 ypc. Yes, it is a potential fluke, a high point of the entire season. Yes it was vs a bad IU defense...or are they that bad really since they gave up less than 4 ypc vs the other RBs? Maybe he is legit??? The next two games will give us more insight, but we won't know for certain until the OSU game.

As for turnovers, the D is finally beginning to get some themselves, which is encouraging too. If the offense can minimize TOs while the D maximizes them, they can beat OSU. Yes, it will likely require a +3 TO margin with the TOs happening inside the OSU 30 or returned for TDs, but don't act like those things have never happened in football at all levels. Yes, hoping for a surprisingly good game from a RB who has had 1 good game to date and praying for TOs that lead to TDs is not indicative of having much of a chance, but there is still a chance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMRrNY0pxfM

 

[Gulo Blue]

You cannot just simply dismiss what DJ did vs Indiana. Hayes was at 3.5 ypc and Smith was at 3.0. They had a combined 13 carries. DJ had 16 carries and a 7.6 ypc. Even if you take out his longest run of 32 yards he had 15 carries at 6.0 ypc. Yes, it is a potential fluke, a high point of the entire season. Yes it was vs a bad IU defense...or are they that bad really since they gave up less than 4 ypc vs the other RBs? Maybe he is legit??? The next two games will give us more insight, but we won't know for certain until the OSU game.

As for turnovers, the D is finally beginning to get some themselves, which is encouraging too. If the offense can minimize TOs while the D maximizes them, they can beat OSU. Yes, it will likely require a +3 TO margin with the TOs happening inside the OSU 30 or returned for TDs, but don't act like those things have never happened in football at all levels. Yes, hoping for a surprisingly good game from a RB who has had 1 good game to date and praying for TOs that lead to TDs is not indicative of having much of a chance, but there is still a chance.

If we're trying to figure out how soft Indiana's d-line is, there are indicators in both directions. On one hand, Hayes and Smith didn't get a stats bump from a soft d-line, but on the other hand, Gardner's time in the pocket did. I don't think he's had that much time all year.

 

[thewolverines24]

You cannot just simply dismiss what DJ did vs Indiana. Hayes was at 3.5 ypc and Smith was at 3.0. They had a combined 13 carries. DJ had 16 carries and a 7.6 ypc. Even if you take out his longest run of 32 yards he had 15 carries at 6.0 ypc. Yes, it is a potential fluke, a high point of the entire season. Yes it was vs a bad IU defense...or are they that bad really since they gave up less than 4 ypc vs the other RBs? Maybe he is legit??? The next two games will give us more insight, but we won't know for certain until the OSU game.

As for turnovers, the D is finally beginning to get some themselves, which is encouraging too. If the offense can minimize TOs while the D maximizes them, they can beat OSU. Yes, it will likely require a +3 TO margin with the TOs happening inside the OSU 30 or returned for TDs, but don't act like those things have never happened in football at all levels. Yes, hoping for a surprisingly good game from a RB who has had 1 good game to date and praying for TOs that lead to TDs is not indicative of having much of a chance, but there is still a chance.

For starters, IU isn't just a bad defense. They are horrendous. 99th in total D, 71st in run D, 110th in passing D, and 106th in scoring D. That being said, I really hope DJ isn't just a fluke because of how bad IU is. I'm just not getting my hopes up yet, like I didn't get my hopes up after Green and Smith ran all over App State.

What makes you think our offense can minimize TOs against OSU? DG should have thrown 3 INTs against IU. Luckily they suck so he got a way with those bad throws.

There is a reason this team is 123rd in turnover margin.

 

[wlvrnstlr4life]

This thread is stupid. We should talk Liberal politics instead.

 

[hungry]

You cannot just simply dismiss what DJ did vs Indiana. Hayes was at 3.5 ypc and Smith was at 3.0. They had a combined 13 carries. DJ had 16 carries and a 7.6 ypc. Even if you take out his longest run of 32 yards he had 15 carries at 6.0 ypc. Yes, it is a potential fluke, a high point of the entire season. Yes it was vs a bad IU defense...or are they that bad really since they gave up less than 4 ypc vs the other RBs? Maybe he is legit??? The next two games will give us more insight, but we won't know for certain until the OSU game.

As for turnovers, the D is finally beginning to get some themselves, which is encouraging too. If the offense can minimize TOs while the D maximizes them, they can beat OSU. Yes, it will likely require a +3 TO margin with the TOs happening inside the OSU 30 or returned for TDs, but don't act like those things have never happened in football at all levels. Yes, hoping for a surprisingly good game from a RB who has had 1 good game to date and praying for TOs that lead to TDs is not indicative of having much of a chance, but there is still a chance.

Remember when we thought Michigan had a chance against OSU in RR's last year?

 

[Michchamp]

Remember when we thought Michigan had a chance against OSU in RR's last year?

I remember you, WyldRydr and Uvebeenmcguffied thinking that.

 

[hungry]

I remember you, WyldRydr and Uvebeenmcguffied thinking that.

Maybe Wyld and uvebeen, but not me.

not even after they spotted Michigan 7 points. I knew before that OSU game that RichRod was a dead duck.

 

[zyxt9]

One more point about DJ...at least he was able to take advantage of the soft IU D, which is something we have not had an RB due outside of the Appy St game this year.