Leyland might bat Cabrera third

[kalinecountry]

http://beck.mlblogs.com/2011/12/07/leyland-pondering-whether-to-hit-cabrera-third/
Leyland pondering whether to hit Cabrera third.
from Jason Beck's Tigers blog

http://www.freep.com/article/20111207/SP....battin g-third-
Tigers' Jim Leyland fields questions about season, including Miguel Cabrera batting third.
from the freep

http://www.detnews.com/article/20111207/....hird-in-Tige rs

 

[jmakula87]

KalineCountry[/color]]http://beck.mlblogs.com/2011/12/07/leyland-pondering-whether-to-hit-cabrera-third/
Leyland pondering whether to hit Cabrera third.
from Jason Beck's Tigers blog

this ought to start a serious discussion.

Lol most likely.

And I would have to see who was batting 1-9 before I decided if Miggy at 3 was fine. Doesn't Pujols usually bat 3rd? Personally, I don't think it would make a huge difference.

 

[Mitchrapp]

I like him batting 3rd. You'll get the one who mention 2 out none on when he's up, heh, but I like him in the 3 hole.

 

[msuspartan]

Cabrera should bat 3rd.

/discussion.

 

[mjsb2]

Cabrera should bat 3rd.

/discussion.

Agreed.

Cabrera should bat in what is statistically proven to be the least important/valuable of the first four spots in the lineup.

/discussion.

 

[jimrice]

While we are regressing, I hope they charge a nickel for hot dogs and serve the real Coke with sugar and not corn syrup.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Ironically Coke blows except when I get some at Mickey D's.

 

[Rebbiv]

Cabrera should bat 3rd.

/discussion.

Agreed.

Cabrera should bat in what is statistically proven to be the least important/valuable of the first four spots in the lineup.

/discussion.

Major League Baseball
Science of Baseball, Exploratorium
Bruce Bukiet, New Jersey Institute of Technology
Society for Industrial and Applied Mathematics

Baseball teams would play better if coaches did away with the traditional batting line-up, suggest mathematicians. They say that putting the best batter second, rather than the customary fourth, can substantially improve team performance. Surprisingly, the weakest hitter should not bat last.

Baseball managers have known for years that not all batting orders are created equal. If there are already players on base, a strong hitter has a better chance of getting them back to home base to score several runs - "a clean-up" in baseball parlance. For that reason, managers tend to put the strongest players together in the line-up.

But it is a subtler decision whether the two best hitters should bat second and third, or third and fourth, for instance. In all there are more than 360,000 possible ways to line up the nine players.

To find the best line-up, mathematician Bruce Bukiet of the New Jersey Institute of Technology in Newark took data from the 1989 US baseball season and used it to calculate the likely number of runs each potential line-up would earn.

Optimal line-up
The difference between a team's best and worst batting order could change the outcome of as many as 10 games in a season, he found. For the majority of National League teams that season, the optimal line-up would have been to use the best batter in the second spot.

"Managers traditionally put the team slugger in the fourth spot, on the rationale that several players might get on base before he comes to bat, and he can clean up," he says.

But it is more important to get the top hitter batting earlier, so he may get more chances to bat over the course of a game, Bukiet reported last week at the annual meeting of the Society for Industrial and Applied Mathematics, in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

The study also found that the worst batter, usually the pitcher, should bat seventh or eighth, not last, where he is almost always placed. "The pitcher should be far away from the slugger in the line-up," says Bukiet. That lessens the chance that he will be the clean-up hitter responsible for getting the strongest batter back to home base.

 

[spockmaster]

Id probably be ok with Miggy hitting 2nd lol

 

[tomdalton22]

It really makes sense to have the worst hitter at the 7 or 8 hole.

 

[mjsb2]

It really makes sense to have the worst hitter at the 7 or 8 hole.

That's probably why Avila batter there so much last season.

 

[hellifino]

I had my chat with Jim, and he's starting to come around.

 

[kalinecountry]

http://detroit.tigers.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?c_id=det&content_id=20024199&topic_id=8878994
Here's the webvideo with Leyland on mlbnetwork from yesterday.