Lions could be best team in NFL if they get act together

[tbone413]

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/...s-could-contend-if-they-ever-get-act-together

I agree with most of what this guy says in the article. The lions do have tons of talent and have done a good job drafting talent over need the past 3 years..however they are still s young team which makes dumb mental mistakes, and those mistakes cost them dearly (see last year)

I don't agree it's it's him calling the Lions the dirtiest team in the NFL..what about the Saints? They just got busted for outing bounty on players yet Detroit is a dirtier team? Get real.

If Jim Schwartz can figure out a way to get all of these young guys to keep their composure and play smart then the sky is the limit for this team.

 

[tsmith7559]

looks like A Berry and Spievey are the starters in the secondary......cant win a championship with them

 

[boogerlovejoy]

looks like a berry and spievey are the starters in the secondary......cant win a championship with them

^^^^^that^^^^^

+10

 

[tbone413]

looks like A Berry and Spievey are the starters in the secondary......cant win a championship with them

Lol yea that is a sick joke..

 

[lp4ever41]

looks like A Berry and Spievey are the starters in the secondary......cant win a championship with them

Maybe you should take a look at NE's secondary last year, then remember that they were one Welker catch away from the title. Berry and Spievey would've started on that NE team last year and they would've been better off for it.

 

[lionsFTW]

agree with LP, this team could absolutely put together a 4 game run and win a ship. more than enough fire power on offense. you get a run of creating turnovers in the right moments and boom, CHAMPIONSHIP!

 

[tsmith7559]

Not winning a championship from a wildcard spot(if they get one) because they're not beating GB in the division.

 

[cmlfactor]

If the D figures out how to get damn interceptions then maybe. They could've picked off Brees 3 or 4 more times in that playoff game...but butterfingers...

 

[boogerlovejoy]

Maybe you should take a look at NE's secondary last year, then remember that they were one Welker catch away from the title. Berry and Spievey would've started on that NE team last year and they would've been better off for it.

You're delusional. Stop making shit up.

We got waxed twice by N.O. and also lost twice to G.B.....once each to S.F. and Atlanta. Three of those games were at home. 1-6 against all playoff teams (with that win coming against Denver....who sucked) We also got a little lucky against Minnesota in game three and Dallas a week later.

Listen, I'm not saying this team isnt good or doesn't have potential.....but to call the Lions "possibly" the best team in the NFL is dumb.

 

[zoombabyzoom]

Offense has potential to be the best in the NFL.
Defense has the potential to be the best pass rushing in the NFL.
Offense has potential to be the worst running unit in the NFL.
Secondary has the potential to be one of the worst in the NFL.
Special Teams? Who knows, its a wildcard.

Honestly with those potential(s) listed. The secondary is gonna be bad, we would have to have someone break out and become a #1 CB. Which is beyond unlikely at this point. Running game is going to be bad thanks to Raiola (worst run blocking center in the NFL). However, with LeShoure/Best healthy? Should improve a little. Our Offense could very well be the best in the league and our pass rush if guys live up to potential could be the best in the league as well.

 

[wolverine304]

I really don't see leshoure helping the running game much.

And they scored less than 20 points vs the best teams they played. San fran, Nola, @Chicago, GB, Atl. So I'd hold off on talk about having the best offense.

Stafford and Calvin are fun to watch. And do have potential.

 

[Mitchrapp]

I really don't see leshoure helping the running game much.

And they scored less than 20 points vs the best teams they played. San fran, Nola, @Chicago, GB, Atl. So I'd hold off on talk about having the best offense.

Stafford and Calvin are fun to watch. And do have potential.

Potential? Lol, who have you been watching? They've already reached it..

 

[tsmith7559]

Maybe you should take a look at NE's secondary last year, then remember that they were one Welker catch away from the title. Berry and Spievey would've started on that NE team last year and they would've been better off for it.

NE secondary isnt all world, but they have 14-16 starting positions in better shape then we do.
Outside of Calvin, maybe the 2010 SUH and possibly another couple positions...they're better

 

[lp4ever41]

You're delusional. Stop making shit up.

We got waxed twice by N.O. and also lost twice to G.B.....once each to S.F. and Atlanta. Three of those games were at home. 1-6 against all playoff teams (with that win coming against Denver....who sucked) We also got a little lucky against Minnesota in game three and Dallas a week later.

Listen, I'm not saying this team isnt good or doesn't have potential.....but to call the Lions "possibly" the best team in the NFL is dumb.

NE had WRs playing at corner last year. They definitely would've started Aaron Berry instead. How is that delusional?

http://www.thelionsinwinter.com/2012/02/old-mother-hubbard-cornerbacks.html

For the Lions, the highest-PFF-graded cornerback is Aaron Berry. Berry, the scapegoat of the Lions’ wild-card loss, took a world of abuse for dropping potential interceptions. However, he was the Lions’ steadiest cover corner. With 411 snaps played, Berry graded out at +4.1 overall; 24th-best in the NFL. Berry can boast a +2.1 in coverage and +1.3 in run-stopping. In pass rush he was flat at +0.0, and only assessed penalty. All of these grades are above NFL average for corners with at least 25% of their teams’ snaps.
The 5’-11”, 180-pound Berry’s worst game was his first one: his –1.1 showing at Tampa Bay. He was thrown at ten times—a shocking level of picking-on—and allowed 8 catches for 77 yards and a score. It was his only negative grade all season. His performances got better and better, climaxing in Weeks 6, 7, and 8 with performances of +0.9, +1.6, and +2.0.
After the bye, Berry got a heavy workload in Chris Houston’s absence and graded at zero throughout that stretch. Then, Berry got injured himself in Week 14, and didn’t return until the fateful Wild Card game—where PFF graded him out at a solid +1.6 overall, including a heavy ding for two penalties.
Berry was used primarily in the nickel package throughout the season, though he played on the outside, not the inside, when he did. The 23-year-old was steady beyond his years, though not spectacular; he had no interceptions and four passes defensed. Berry’s +EPA was a meager 0.14, and his +WPA was lacking at 0.44. You see the complete picture: solid, steady, reliable, not a game-breaker—and that’s just fine in this defense.
Bottom Line: Aaron Berry is a 23-year-old cornerback coming off a UDFA rookie year completely wiped out by injury. Incredibly, he was a steady, better-than-average right outside corner (when used . When pressed into full-time duty he performed like an average NFL starting cornerback in coverage and against the run. Even if he never improves (doubtful), Berry has earned a spot in the top four—and a crack at the top two.


Yep, NE is better off playing a WR at CB than that guy.

BTW, the Lions also lost two games (SF and Atlanta) due to shitty calls and special teams.

 

[lp4ever41]

NE secondary isnt all world, but they have 14-16 starting positions in better shape then we do.
Outside of Calvin, maybe the 2010 SUH and possibly another couple positions...they're better

Detroit is better at every WR spot (if you count Welker as a #1 WR and compare him to Calvin), if the RBs are healthy the Lions are better there, the D-Line is better than NE and the secondary is better than NE. LB is a wash. NE has better coaching, they're QB, O-Line, and TEs are better for sure.

 

[lionsFTW]

its also funny how down fans are on Leshore when everything I've read from coaches is that he's the guy they expect to come back and be the game changer in our run offense.

seems like it was just around the draft I had read something by either Mayhew or Schwartz (pretty sure it was mayhew) talking about how his return takes a lot of the pressure off of needing a RB in the draft because of how "special" a talent they view him as. I'll look around for it.

 

[lionsFTW]

Detroit is better at every WR spot (if you count Welker as a #1 WR and compare him to Calvin), if the RBs are healthy the Lions are better there, the D-Line is better than NE and the secondary is better than NE. LB is a wash. NE has better coaching, they're QB, O-Line, and TEs are better for sure.

and in no way is saying their QB or TE's is better a shot at our guys because theirs are all world/second to none. you can stack our guys at those two spots up against everyone in the league and we pretty much take the cake, especially if were factoring in potential.

this is a good football team guys and its only getting better.

 

[lp4ever41]

its also funny how down fans are on Leshore when everything I've read from coaches is that he's the guy they expect to come back and be the game changer in our run offense.

seems like it was just around the draft I had read something by either Mayhew or Schwartz (pretty sure it was mayhew) talking about how his return takes a lot of the pressure off of needing a RB in the draft because of how "special" a talent they view him as. I'll look around for it.

If he can return completely healthy, and he hasn't permanently lost anything from that injury, I expect big things from him.

 

[tonyballs]

I really don't see leshoure helping the running game much.

And they scored less than 20 points vs the best teams they played. San fran, Nola, @Chicago, GB, Atl. So I'd hold off on talk about having the best offense.

Stafford and Calvin are fun to watch. And do have potential.

You don't see Leshoure helping much? How so? He takes HUGE pressure off Best if he stays healthy.

 

[wolverine304]

How Mitch? By scoring a lot on bad teams.


And isn't leshoure suspended for weed? Hasn't played a game. Plus coming off a bad injury.


But I did love the leshoure pick when it happened.