Lions tag Ziggy! probably no long-term agreement, on PUP list, off PUP list

[Tonyballs2]

Boom!!

Show me the money deal for ya now, Ziggy!!! Prove it!

 

[detrisin]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/02/27/lions-use-franchise-tag-on-ziggy-ansah/

That's a lot of $$$ for one year for a dude with a recent injury history, but sure felt like it had to be done with the lack of options out there.

 

[Tonyballs2]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/02/27/lions-use-franchise-tag-on-ziggy-ansah/

That's a lot of $$$ for one year for a dude with a recent injury history, but sure felt like it had to be done with the lack of options out there.

I agree. Lions were backed into a corner on this one IMO. Nobody really on the roster to take over for Ansah and like you said, free agency is weak this year at the DE spot. Lions need another 1 or 2 DE's from the draft or FA. I like Zettel and Hyder but ZA needs to step up and play 16 games this yr. A full 16!!! Health is key...

 

[inkfreq]

It's a defensive line with the potential to be crushing... but you know how far potential gets you.

 

[grandy]

If the Lions were short on cap space I wouldn’t like the tag, but that’s not the case this year. There’s absolutely no downside to this move given the circumstances they’re in (poor FA market + positional need).

 

[brewer229]

If the Lions were short on cap space I wouldn?t like the tag, but that?s not the case this year. There?s absolutely no downside to this move given the circumstances they?re in (poor FA market + positional need).

Only downside is if he goes out and has a fantastic year. Tag next year will be 21.5 million, less negotiation room for the lions.

 

[boogerlovejoy]

Only downside is if he goes out and has a fantastic year. Tag next year will be 21.5 million, less negotiation room for the lions.

It's likely they sign him to a more cap friendly deal before the season starts. I'd say 4 years/$60M with $25M or so guaranteed. Front load it so it's essentially a 2 year deal with vesting options based on performance.

 

[kalinecountry]

http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf/2018/02/lions_place_franchise_tag_on_e.html#incart_river_index
Lions place franchise tag on Ezekiel Ansah.
Mlive

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/...y-ansah-franchise-tag-17-5-million/378709002/
Detroit Lions use franchise tag on DE Ziggy Ansah.
Freep

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/sp...27/lions-ziggy-ansah-franchise-tag/110905564/
Lions use franchise tag on Ezekiel Ansah.
Detnews

http://www.detroitlions.com/news/ne...e-player/95fb0a25-08f7-4e67-8712-626860bc57d0
Lions designate DE Ansah as franchise player.
Lions.com

https://www.prideofdetroit.com/2018/2/27/17059622/detroit-lions-place-franchise-tag-on-ezekiel-ansah
Detroit Lions place franchise tag on Ezekiel Ansah.
The Lions have made keeping Ansah a priority in 2018.
POD

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/22596997/detroit-lions-give-franchise-tag-de-ezekiel-ansah
Detroit Lions give franchise tag to DE Ezekiel Ansah.
espn

 

[kalinecountry]

https://www.prideofdetroit.com/2018...-lions-franchise-tag-ezekiel-ansah-right-move
3 reasons why tagging Ezekiel Ansah was the right move.
It wasn?t an easy decision, but it was the right one.
POD

http://www.espn.com/blog/detroit-li...e-only-move-the-detroit-lions-could-have-made
Franchise-tagging Ezekiel Ansah was the only move Lions could have made.
espn

http://www.detroitlions.com/news/li...es-sense/0db669cb-10ff-4137-9690-f55f49b65e99
Why tagging Ansah makes sense.
Lions.com

https://sidelionreport.com/2018/02/27/detroit-lions-franchise-tagging-ziggy-ansah-right-choice/
Detroit Lions: Franchise tagging Ziggy Ansah was the right choice.
SLR

https://lionswire.usatoday.com/2018...hise-tag-doesnt-change-lions-offseason-plans/
Ezekiel Ansah's franchise tag doesn't change Lions' offseason plans.
LionsWire

 

[Mitchrapp]

Only downside is if he goes out and has a fantastic year. Tag next year will be 21.5 million, less negotiation room for the lions.

So the better idea is that he fails? Choices are he's fantastic - cost too much and becomes a FA or he's terrible - we don't negotiate a deal and he's a FA anyway. I'll take the fantastic year option.

 

[LKP]

Great de. Smart move

Stay healthy

 

[kdp1980]

Still think we should go dline heavy in the draft/FA and tell him to kick rocks next offseason

 

[thehippo73]

This was the right move. We still need a lot more D-line help. I hope Ziggy can stay healthy and earn a long term contract.

 

[brewer229]

So the better idea is that he fails? Choices are he's fantastic - cost too much and becomes a FA or he's terrible - we don't negotiate a deal and he's a FA anyway. I'll take the fantastic year option.

I don't think I said anything along the lines of is better to play poorly. Just pointing out the downside of tagging. You lose the power. Like with Suh, we had no cards to play because of the way we kept restructuring.

When the tag isn't an option, you hold less power.

 

[grandy]

Still think we should go dline heavy in the draft/FA and tell him to kick rocks next offseason

That should be the plan. If they?re in the exact same position next off-season, where they need to tag or re-sign Ziggy, then Quinn screwed up. They should comfortably be able to say goodbye after next season, unless he plays out of this world.

 

[Tonyballs2]

I don't think I said anything along the lines of is better to play poorly. Just pointing out the downside of tagging. You lose the power. Like with Suh, we had no cards to play because of the way we kept restructuring.

When the tag isn't an option, you hold less power.

Suh never wanted to be here tho. And he was too good at the time to just let him walk. Ansah is a bit different. Still a good player but has some injury history. If he fails to play well, you let him walk. If he plays well, then you reward him. Hopefully Quinn has done his due diligence and has had some sit downs with ZA. Really find out where his head is at and if he wants to be a Lion for life. This is a "prove it" yr for Ziggy now. Does he want it?? Let's find out...

 

[kalinecountry]

https://www.prideofdetroit.com/2018...ansah-clean-out-procedure-knee-offseason-2018
Lions DE Ezekiel Ansah had offseason procedure on knee.
Ansah underwent yet another medical procedure this offseason.
POD

 

[LKP]

Clean up that knee now. Healthy year please

 

[boogerlovejoy]

Clean up that knee now. Healthy year please

2nd'd.

Maybe have an impact in more than 4 games this year.

 

[lucke]

2nd'd.

Maybe have an impact in more than 4 games this year.

It'll never show up in the stats, but he did affect games with taking double teams and still getting pressure on the QB. He also sweets the edge nicely against the run. The bigger problem is the lack of complimenting peices to take advantage of their 1 on 1 matchups.

I agree he needs to play better, but to say he had no impact on the game if he didn't get a sack is just beyond ignorant.