LOL - heartwarming Manti Teo girlfriend dying story was a hoax

[redandguilty]

I'm guessing we'll eventually hear that Te'o called some friend or cousin to go get and deliver the white roses for him. Paid cash. No receipt.

...or maybe not. Apparently, Tuiasosopo has lawyered up and is planning to speak publicly. His uncle says there's more to the story.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/te-story-uncle-hoaxer-article-1.1243856

 

[redandguilty]

I love the difference between headlines and content.

Here's the actual quote from the Uncle: “There’s a little more to it that's really unclear to the world.”

...and the headline: "Uncle of Manti Te'o trickster, Peter Tuiasosopo, suggests there's a lot more to the hoax girlfriend story"

 

[TheVictors]

I really don't care what the eventual excuse or explanation is ...this will forever be associated with the improbable 2012 season in south bend and Te'o heisman candidacy.

Hilarious!!



Noter Dame Sucks is the Hoax!!

 

[redandguilty]

recruit fakes visit to ND:
http://www.sbnation.com/college-foo...ey-williams-notre-dame-visit-football-recruit

 

[hungry]

I'm guessing we'll eventually hear that Te'o called some friend or cousin to go get and deliver the white roses for him. Paid cash. No receipt.

...or maybe not. Apparently, Tuiasosopo has lawyered up and is planning to speak publicly. His uncle says there's more to the story.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/te-story-uncle-hoaxer-article-1.1243856

There's more to the story? No!! You don't say!

 

[redandguilty]

There's more to the story? No!! You don't say!

What I meant to point out is how "little" in the quote equals "lot" in the headline.

There won't be a lot until Tuiasosopo makes time to author another chapter.

 

[umsparty]

anyone see Saturday Night Live....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ni-YLaXOroE

 

[thewolverines24]

anyone see Saturday Night Live....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ni-YLaXOroE

This was pretty solid.

On another note, I just read some of Schaap's interview with Te'o. This is my favorite part: "In fact, conversations between the two (Lennay's "sister") continued through the national title game on Jan. 7 and beyond. A group of people connected to Tuiasosopo allegedly showed up at Te'o's hotel the weekend before the game in Miami after his curfew.

This is important because it shows Te'o's stunning credulity. Even in January, he claims he was still uncertain of what was going on."

Lmfao! He still wasn't certain what was going on after his school told him she was totally made up a month before. Riiiiiiiiiiight.

 

[redandguilty]

Check that out. ND part of the cover up:

Te'o called Kelly and told him the story over the phone. Kelly's initial reaction is as puzzling as the entire story.

JEREMY SCHAAP: So you tell Kelly. First you tell your D-coordinator, then you tell Kelly. What was the conversation like Brian Kelly?

MANTI TE'O: Coach Kelly just said she's dead. That's how we're going to go about it. She's dead. When you come in, we'll talk about it. That's all he said.

Yes, Notre Dame's head coach told Te'o that they're going to continue to operate as if Kekua is dead. At least, until Kelly, Te'o and other Notre Dame personnel had a chance to talk about how to handle the situation in person.

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2013/1/19/3894360/manti-teo-interview-transcript-espn

 

[redandguilty]

This was pretty solid.

On another note, I just read some of Schaap's interview with Te'o. This is my favorite part: "In fact, conversations between the two (Lennay's "sister") continued through the national title game on Jan. 7 and beyond. A group of people connected to Tuiasosopo allegedly showed up at Te'o's hotel the weekend before the game in Miami after his curfew.

This is important because it shows Te'o's stunning credulity. Even in January, he claims he was still uncertain of what was going on."

Lmfao! He still wasn't certain what was going on after his school told him she was totally made up a month before. Riiiiiiiiiiight.

I'm looking over the edited transcript...and it sounds like some BS.

No red flags popped up. Initially when I started to talk to her, obviously, I didn't see her yet, so I asked other people who knew of her and who had history with her, "Is this girl real?" And all of them said, "Yeah, she's real." So that kind of gave me confidence, that, yeah, I'm fine.

Shiloah, my first cousin. I asked him do you know this girl Lennay? And he said, "Yeah, I know this girl Lennay." And I said, "Is she real?" And he said, "Oh, yeah, she's real, bro, she's real."

That is not a normal conversation.

There's also talk of Lennay wanting to give Te'o money, which he rejected, but only because he didn't want to give out his checking account number. Not because it would be an obvious NCAA violation.

The whole thing is self-contradictory. He keeps saying he had no suspicions, there were no red flags, then he explains how he kept asking people if she was real and checked with the bank to see if the checking account number thing could have been a scam.

oh...crap. I thought the edited thing wasn't that long. That was only page 1

 

[Michchamp]

yeah, his comments & his explanation don't pass the "laugh test."

actually, nothing from him, Tuiasosopo or any of their wider clans pass it.

It's been almost a week now, and we still can't get a coherent, consistent story out of any of the parties involved in this hoax. It shouldn't take more than a day or two (or really 5 minutes) to simply tell the truth. So they're lying. case closed in my book. nothing more to see here.

I remain convinced Te'o was in on it from the beginning. none of their excuses and explanations hold water. I also remain convinced ND football is a shameless, self-promoting institution. Few people associated with it have any credibility.

 

[Michchamp]

all that remains to be seen will be whether the parties involved suffer any fallout.

guessing among any NFL GMs that value things outside of 40 time and max bench press weight Te'os stock has fallen.

likewise, this Tuiasosopo clown will have no credibility with anyone who actually cares about things like credibility.

and there may be some fallout for ND football; maybe team unity will suffer next year as more skeptical players question why their school would let such absurd lies go on for so long. and there will be the lingering taunts from opposing fans and members of the media. those things can sometimes have far-reaching effects.

but in the end, no punishments will be too damaging for any of them. like PT Barnum said, "there's a sucker born every minute." some people don't mind being lied to, and it seems to me, may actually prefer it. they want to believe.

 

[Michchamp]

also, as mentioned, you can bet Te'o is going to be hazed by the veterans of whatever team drafts him like it's nobodies business!

it's going to be brutal.

he might even end up playing in the CFL or NFL Europe just to get away from it.

 

[thewolverines24]

So now the Tuiasosopo friend, who claimed he confessed to her, said that her and Tui went to high school together and Tui was using her pictures to dupe Te'o. Didn't the actual girl, from the Deadspin article, in the pictures already say she has never met and does not know Te'o or Tui?

Everything that is said in this is bullshit.

Update: The friend who said Tui used her pictures refuses to give her name. The girl from the Deadspin article already spoke out on video. Her name is Diane O’Meara. So clearly this anonymous "friend" of Tui is full of shit. Shocker.

 

[TheVictors]

It's funny how in the world of the interwebs and such you can take a relatively straight forward story and play the, "Yeah but what if's" and actually get away with it.

Take this same story not being played out over the internet and involving precious noter dame and you have a total loser allegedly scammed by some "Porn Bot." Happens ALL THE TIME on the internet, but when it happens to a noter dame football player who leveraged the whole bizarre affair to his benefit, suddenly the most implausible explanations are given credence.

LMAO .... what a group of ass clowns there in south bend.

 

[redandguilty]

So now the Tuiasosopo friend, who claimed he confessed to her, said that her and Tui went to high school together and Tui was using her pictures to dupe Te'o. Didn't the actual girl, from the Deadspin article, in the pictures already say she has never met and does not know Te'o or Tui?

Everything that is said in this is bullshit.

Update: The friend who said Tui used her pictures refuses to give her name. The girl from the Deadspin article already spoke out on video. Her name is Diane O’Meara. So clearly this anonymous "friend" of Tui is full of shit. Shocker.

I don't think she ever said she didn't know Tuiasosopo, just Te'o.

 

[thewolverines24]

I don't think she ever said she didn't know Tuiasosopo, just Te'o.

Yeah I think I misread ESPN's bottom line while I was running. I saw something that said a high school friend of Tui's was the one in the pics and I thought it was this same anonymous woman he supposedly confessed to.

I need to stop trying to read the bottom line while I'm running.

 

[Michchamp]

It's funny how in the world of the interwebs and such you can take a relatively straight forward story and play the, "Yeah but what if's" and actually get away with it.

Take this same story not being played out over the internet and involving precious noter dame and you have a total loser allegedly scammed by some "Porn Bot." Happens ALL THE TIME on the internet, but when it happens to a noter dame football player who leveraged the whole bizarre affair to his benefit, suddenly the most implausible explanations are given credence.

LMAO .... what a group of ass clowns there in south bend.

well, the great thing about the internet is that it allows alternative opinions to the narrative sold by the mainstream press to reach the masses.

I don't know if this sort of story would've been broken even as late as the mid 90's. Deadspin and similar sites like that didn't exist. and the media has always been reluctant to actually report on any stories that turn a mirror on their own sloppy reporting, or on the fact that they often enable the ability of those in power (or on the playing field) to lie to the people or the fans.

...but the catch is what you pointed out... the not-so-great thing about the internet is that it allows any idiot with a computer to spew his or her nonsense to the rest of the world.

beyond that, it's irritating (as always) that most people can't seem to keep more than one or two facts straight in their own mind, yet have no problem weighing in on everything from pop culture to public policy.

it's the latter thing that allows strategies like that formulated by the PR team Te'os family hired here: just keep repeating the same lies over and over again to confuse the issue until some other stupid thing happens and knocks it off the front page. most people are too stupid to see through it.

 

[TheVictors]

1. Have some story or event take place.
2. Spew nonsense on the internet, twitter, facebook or otherwise
3. "Apologize" after the fact and accuse those in the "media" or otherwise of "taking your remarks out of context" (though there is no context)
4. Let the dust settle and time pass so that people forget what was true and what was blurted out and taken "out of context"


Sort of the classic TV legal drama where the Defense Atty makes some inflammatory remark and just as the DA is standing to object the Defense Atty barks out, "Withdrawn! Nothing further your honor ...."

 

[redandguilty]

Oops. Forgot to come up with a cover up for this part of the story.

MANTI TE'O: After the story hit, multiple people [saying] that he's done it to me contacted me. And said hey, he's done the same thing to me with the same girl, with the same story. And if you need any help, I'm here.

JEREMY SCHAAP: How did they contact you?

MANTI TE'O: One of the guys I know, that I know of. One of the other girls contacted my cousin Shiloah and said I heard about your cousin, and my boyfriend had an experience with Ronaiah, and her boyfriend is Ronaiah's second cousin.

JEREMY SCHAAP: In, in fact, there are all these people that have been similarly due processed, and you use the same identity, why didn't any of them contact you with all of the media about Lennay Kekua that was out there? Her name was in Sports Illustrated, it was in ESPN, it was on CBS news?

MANTI TE'O: I don't know.