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Marlins 2B Dee Gordon suspended 80 games after PEDs violation
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Justin had something to say about that.
http://www.freep.com/story/sports/mlb/tigers/2016/04/29/dee-gordon-peds-justin-verlander/83699176/
http://www.freep.com/story/sports/mlb/tigers/2016/04/29/dee-gordon-peds-justin-verlander/83699176/
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Anyone suspended for 80 games (means they are a repeat offender) should immediately have their contract voided. They would then go back to "rookie" status and play for league minimum for the next 3 years and be arbitration eligible for the next 2-3 years after that. It doesn't keep them from playing, it just keeps them from profiting on it. And it truly then becomes a deterrent.
There is probably no way Dee Gordon wasn't using prior to signing his 5/$50 Mil contract. Why would someone juice afterwards? And it is virtually improbable that a person gets caught the first time they use or even "accidentally" used.
There is probably no way Dee Gordon wasn't using prior to signing his 5/$50 Mil contract. Why would someone juice afterwards? And it is virtually improbable that a person gets caught the first time they use or even "accidentally" used.
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The players association would never go for that...and nor should they. Hypothetically, a team could rig a drug test and get a "free player". The Yankees could have rigged a test for A-Rod and saved $100M+. And before anybody says that couldn't or wouldn't happen...$100M is a LOT of money!
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They don't test their own players do they?
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no...but if I had $100M on the line I wouldn't trust ANYBODY!
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They agreed to the 80-game and 162-game suspensions. For some, that 162-game suspension could be up to $30 Mil (or more). So $100 Mil isn't that far fetched.
At a minimum, a team should be able to void a contract. That would be a start. There has to be a stronger deterrent. Gordon's suspension is taking but a fraction out of his pocket. The Marlins on the other hand is handicapped big time. Gordon's game is pretty much tied to his legs. The PEDS he was taking could be taken because he has a pre-conditioned leg issue, which could affect performance if not taken. So that means the owner has to "eat" that $100 Mil and it is OK?
BLUF...don't cheat and the $100 Mil isn't an issue.
And if you actually think a player could be set up....that is being very cynical of the whole urinalysis collection process.
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http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/b..._campaign=email_BG_TodaysHeadline&s_campaign=
Suspicion: A very harmful side effect of PEDs.
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Justin Verlander sounded off when he heard about the Gordon suspension that drug offenders should not be allowed to play while they are appealing. I think it is safe to say that more than one World Series-winning team during the past 20 years or so has been fueled by a player or two who beat the system.
You have to know that this is precisely what some out there are saying about the Red Sox and Big Papi, whose name showed up on that list 13 years ago. We in Boston don?t want to talk about it or even think about it. I understand that. I?m right there myself. But we are probably never going to know.
And don?t think for a second some people out there weren?t questioning how skinny little Pedro Martinez could throw so hard in his prime. There were skinny guys who had a great-arm gift 50 years ago, and people just accepted the phenomenon. Nowadays there is a quick assumption that there must be a nefarious story behind the story. That is what PEDs have done to the sport.
from comments section;
Had MLB not ceded much of the control control of the sport to the Players Association, these PED incidents would automatically void the player's contract, leaving the team with an option to pick up the contract and/or renegotiate it at the end of the suspension.
Suspicion: A very harmful side effect of PEDs.
bostonglobe
Justin Verlander sounded off when he heard about the Gordon suspension that drug offenders should not be allowed to play while they are appealing. I think it is safe to say that more than one World Series-winning team during the past 20 years or so has been fueled by a player or two who beat the system.
You have to know that this is precisely what some out there are saying about the Red Sox and Big Papi, whose name showed up on that list 13 years ago. We in Boston don?t want to talk about it or even think about it. I understand that. I?m right there myself. But we are probably never going to know.
And don?t think for a second some people out there weren?t questioning how skinny little Pedro Martinez could throw so hard in his prime. There were skinny guys who had a great-arm gift 50 years ago, and people just accepted the phenomenon. Nowadays there is a quick assumption that there must be a nefarious story behind the story. That is what PEDs have done to the sport.
from comments section;
Had MLB not ceded much of the control control of the sport to the Players Association, these PED incidents would automatically void the player's contract, leaving the team with an option to pick up the contract and/or renegotiate it at the end of the suspension.
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