Might History Repeat?

[thewolverines24]

Hoke recruited well to Michigan. I don't think Harbaugh and his staff will have any problems. They definitely don't need OSU to win games to help their recruiting.

 

[lostleader]

a few thoughts on this


OSU is miles ahead of everyone else, it's not even close. the next closest is MSU but it's an uphill climb to get to where they are. Us maintaining success this year was huge, not slipping back much after a dream season.

UM is in more than just a little downturn, they haven't won a big ten title in over 10 years. UM fans should wish that they were wisconsin, not fear becoming them. Wisconsin has been excellent since the late 90's.

I think Dantonio is as good if not better than those other coaches. you said that MSU has had good coaches who departed for other jobs, by other coaches you mean Saban who pretty much sucked at MSU other than his last season.

Money won't matter nearly as much in the future, especially after the new BTN deal is announced (unless we start paying players). Everyone in the conference is going to have their pockets full, there is a point of diminishing returns when it comes to facilities. everyone has nice facilities for the most part, it's a conference with a majority of haves and very few have nots. donor dollars won't matter as much after this new TV deal.

I think a conference needs good teams first and foremost, you really need to be top heavy. have a lot of good teams with parity just gives you a bunch of 3 loss teams. I don't think it's of major significance that they are programs that are traditionally good. Oregon is a great example, they were terrible for years but now they're the standard bearer of the Pac 12. I don't think the Pac 12 is weak just because USC is down. I don't get that caught up in the brand name

How quickly you forget. Sorry I even responded, Troll on sparty Troll on.

 

[Sbee]

How quickly you forget. Sorry I even responded, Troll on sparty Troll on.

I guess I'm not allowed to have a different opinion. Sorry I offended you

 

[jwlcosu]

So thanks jwlcosu. I can't say I am pulling for the Bucks, but your wishes for a renewal of UM prominence are appreciated. May the NC game at least be without controversial calls for/against the Buckeyes so the players fully deserve their win/loss and there is no disputing which team deserves the victory. That's about the best I can do in return for the well wishes in your post.

You are welcome, zyxt9, and thanks back to you. Apart from that, I will have no problem whatsoever if the Buckeyes happen to benefit from a controversial call or two!

 

[jwlcosu]

Come on, Blue. If Harbaugh can do it, you can too. Go Bucks! Go B1G!

http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/index.ssf/2015/01/jim_harbaugh_rooting_for_ohio.html

 

[TheVictors]

You are welcome, zyxt9, and thanks back to you. Apart from that, I will have no problem whatsoever if the Buckeyes happen to benefit from a controversial call or two!

Get a room you pansies.

 

[jwlcosu]

I didn't read that.

 

[Michchamp]

Get a room you pansies.

they can meet eachother halfway at the Buffalo Wild Wings in Harrisburg, PA... talk football history, eat shitty food, and trade fantasies about nuking the Middle East.

film it for one of those Buffalo Wild Wings commercials.

 

[zyxt9]

Just because some people are too narrow minded or intellectually incapable to comprehend how OSU winning benefits the B1G overall doesn't mean others do not.

I'm pulling for Oregon, but I'm not going to whine like a fucking douche if the Buckeyes win because it is a bigger benefit to UM in the long run. Society is too caught up on immediate satisfaction these days and no longer have the ability to grasp long term gains from short term setbacks. Next year, OSU winning the NC would be a thing in the past and EVERYONE, including OSU fans, will be looking FORWARD to the Harbaugh led Wolverines hosting the Buckeyes. UM fans should already be focused more on that, so what does it really matter if OSU wins the NC? Bragging rights? OOOOOO, AAAAHHHH...big fucking deal. The future is more important right now. If the next ten years UM wins more often in The Rivalry and wins more NCs than OSU, none of this will matter. It will be forgotten just like most have forgotten that guy's name who coached before Bo.

Stop being pussies and man up. Not saying you have to pull for OSU, but the world won't end if OSU wins and it has benefits to B1G in terms of MSM and that impacts recruiting which helps UM. Acknowledge and move on if that is what happens.

 

[Michchamp]

Just because some people are too narrow minded or intellectually incapable to comprehend how OSU winning benefits the B1G overall doesn't mean others do not.

I'm pulling for Oregon, but I'm not going to whine like a fucking douche if the Buckeyes win because it is a bigger benefit to UM in the long run. Society is too caught up on immediate satisfaction these days and no longer have the ability to grasp long term gains from short term setbacks. Next year, OSU winning the NC would be a thing in the past and EVERYONE, including OSU fans, will be looking FORWARD to the Harbaugh led Wolverines hosting the Buckeyes. UM fans should already be focused more on that, so what does it really matter if OSU wins the NC? Bragging rights? OOOOOO, AAAAHHHH...big fucking deal. The future is more important right now. If the next ten years UM wins more often in The Rivalry and wins more NCs than OSU, none of this will matter. It will be forgotten just like most have forgotten that guy's name who coached before Bo.

Stop being pussies and man up. Not saying you have to pull for OSU, but the world won't end if OSU wins and it has benefits to B1G in terms of MSM and that impacts recruiting which helps UM. Acknowledge and move on if that is what happens.

 

[thewolverines24]

Perfect.

 

[zyxt9]

Ha! Nice Champ...I deserved that.

 

[TheVictors]

Just because some people are too narrow minded or intellectually incapable to comprehend how OSU winning benefits the B1G overall doesn't mean others do not.

I'm pulling for Oregon, but I'm not going to whine like a fucking douche if the Buckeyes win because it is a bigger benefit to UM in the long run. Society is too caught up on immediate satisfaction these days and no longer have the ability to grasp long term gains from short term setbacks. Next year, OSU winning the NC would be a thing in the past and EVERYONE, including OSU fans, will be looking FORWARD to the Harbaugh led Wolverines hosting the Buckeyes. UM fans should already be focused more on that, so what does it really matter if OSU wins the NC? Bragging rights? OOOOOO, AAAAHHHH...big fucking deal. The future is more important right now. If the next ten years UM wins more often in The Rivalry and wins more NCs than OSU, none of this will matter. It will be forgotten just like most have forgotten that guy's name who coached before Bo.

Stop being pussies and man up. Not saying you have to pull for OSU, but the world won't end if OSU wins and it has benefits to B1G in terms of MSM and that impacts recruiting which helps UM. Acknowledge and move on if that is what happens.

Right. The Future of MICHIGAN is more important.

So fuck ohio.

Doesn't hurt MICHIGAN the least if Oregon goes out and boat races the bucks any more than it helps Michigan if they don't. There is absolutely NO correlation between the outcome of Monday's game and the FUTURE of MICHIGAN.

So, you man up and GO DUCKS!

.....speaking as someone who genuinely likes the Ducks, prefers the Pac-12 over any other conference aside from the BigTen and who could give a shit about ohio or the ohio state university buckeyes football team.

 

[gobluebigjon]

Fuck o$u go ducks

 

[zyxt9]

Vic, you know the MSM is going to crown the newest Super Duper Bestest conference that has supplanted the SEC with whichever conference wins the first playoff championship, right? They will overhype everything and everyone in that conference, giving it tons of coverage it has not seen in a decade.

Some are acting like its Life or Death, its just a football championship game. Far more important things to stress over, like health, family, and happiness. My happiness is no longer dependent upon some stupid football game when compared to my son. So yeah, fuck OSU and Go Ducks, but don't have a stroke if OSU wins because it means more B1G hype by MSM which coupled with having Harbaugh will potentially push a kid like Marshall toward one conference or another. Not saying it is THE factor, but it is one and in recruiting every little thing can add up and sway a teenage boy to choose something different, simply because they crave something as fleeting as the spotlight and to be hyped with every possible second of coverage because they know the hype can result in being drafted sooner and that means more money. These kids are impressionable, but they aren't so stupid as to not go for their most lucrative dream possible. A kid like Marshall loves the hype and loves a challenge. Would he rather compete against the WRs who won the last NC or against the second place team....which one was it again??? They didn't win so I forgot them already and the game hasn't even been played yet.

 

[TheVictors]

"Honey, you have a good instinct for this ..who do you think is going to win on Monday?"

"Buckeyes."

"Yep, me too."

"Doesn't mean I want them to win. Fuck Ohio."

"Yeah, fuck ohio state but they're going to win."



"Yep"

 

[zyxt9]

Lol...hate to say it but if OSU wins with their 3rd string QB over the Heisman winning QB, that would be fucking impressive. Fuck OSU, but gotta recognize that as an unreal victory if it happens and would be the definition of a team victory IMO. Man I hate that OSU is potentially that good while UM has sucked so bad for too damn long.

 

[tomdalton22]

Vic, you know the MSM is going to crown the newest Super Duper Bestest conference that has supplanted the SEC with whichever conference wins the first playoff championship, right? They will overhype everything and everyone in that conference, giving it tons of coverage it has not seen in a decade.

Some are acting like its Life or Death, its just a football championship game. Far more important things to stress over, like health, family, and happiness. My happiness is no longer dependent upon some stupid football game when compared to my son. So yeah, fuck OSU and Go Ducks, but don't have a stroke if OSU wins because it means more B1G hype by MSM which coupled with having Harbaugh will potentially push a kid like Marshall toward one conference or another. Not saying it is THE factor, but it is one and in recruiting every little thing can add up and sway a teenage boy to choose something different, simply because they crave something as fleeting as the spotlight and to be hyped with every possible second of coverage because they know the hype can result in being drafted sooner and that means more money. These kids are impressionable, but they aren't so stupid as to not go for their most lucrative dream possible. A kid like Marshall loves the hype and loves a challenge. Would he rather compete against the WRs who won the last NC or against the second place team....which one was it again??? They didn't win so I forgot them already and the game hasn't even been played yet.

It could go the other way too. If OSU wins maybe they get some better recruits in the near future because of it. Maybe someone in Ohio that is considering UM changes their mind and goes to OSU. On the other hand if they win maybe some players leave early for the NFL that wouldn't otherwise. I don't think you can say having OSU win will help or hurt UM. The only thing it will do is bring some credibility to the Big10 which actually helps all 14 teams IMO

 

[TheVictors]

This thread is so stupid.

The definition of being a fan is that it comes from your gut, your heart. When they kick off on Monday and the first play happens, I'll know which team I want to win and it won't be ohio st.

Because the first time Oregon pops a buckeye player or scores I will be happy and if osu scores or makes a big play I won't be. All this crap about the conference and everything, convince yourself of whatever you want but if you're a MICHIGAN fan, rooting for Ohio should be against your DNA.

I don't think deep down Harbaugh wants them to win either. He just has to say that at this point, and no real Alabama fans were rooting for Auburn vs FSU last year.

 

[jwlcosu]

I don't think deep down Harbaugh wants them to win either. He just has to say that at this point.

The new Michigan coach has more integrity than you give him credit for. Go Bucks! Go B1G!