M's 2015 defense

[Michchamp]

This board sucks

It would suck a lot less if you'd post the Minnesota score prediction thread already, and get us focused on that.

Chop chop.

 

[cmrlily]

It would suck a lot less if you'd post the Minnesota score prediction thread already, and get us focused on that.

Chop chop.

Time for "where's the god damn score prediction thread" thread?

 

[thewolverines24]

We're on to Minnesota.

 

[tigersofjustice]

Where does the fumbled punt return defense rank nationally?

You're not helping the 'dumb toolbag' generalization of MSU.

 

[Michchamp]

Time for "where's the god damn score prediction thread" thread?

not yet. let's see if that gets a response before we escalate the situation.

 

[allshouldbleedblue]

I thought the refs sucked for most of the game, but I generally don't question them when they get the chance to review something. I originally thought it was a bad call but after reviewing it the refs had no choice but to toss him.

By this theory, you can not argue about the goal line touchdown that was reviewed on 3 straight plays. You know because refs can't mess up a review and all.

 

[TheVictors]

Time for "where's the god damn score prediction thread" thread?

Sorry. Been in Vegas since Sunday.

Someone call the exterminator and fumigate this dump, will you.

 

[Michchamp]

Sorry. Been in Vegas since Sunday.

Someone call the exterminator and fumigate this dump, will you.

your bombastic posts of the last couple days lead me to believe you either won a lot of money, or lost a lot of money (and drank heavily to forget).

 

[TheVictors]

I broke even pretty much. Was up $100 or so ...lost that last night but then found $75 in poker chips in my jacket pocket from Sunday night and cashed that in for 1st class flight home ...which I'm on now

 

[rumseyhouse77]

By this theory, you can not argue about the goal line touchdown that was reviewed on 3 straight plays. You know because refs can't mess up a review and all.

This will be my last post on this subject. It is really worse than this because in the case of the TD the replay couldn't tell where the ball was so the call on the field of a TD couldn't be overturned. In the case of the "targeting" call on Bolden, it was clearly evident that there was no targeting. The call on the field and replay upholding it are inexplicable other than incompetent officiating at best and a payoff to the officiating crew at worse. At the very least the NCAA needs to step up and provide clearer guidelines regarding targeting.

(Note: I am not accusing the officials of criminal conduct, I am just stating the worse case scenario).

 

[Michchamp]

Well, the 400+ yards from Minnesota blew our #1 ranking. We're now #2 behind BC again.

gotta step up our defensive game this week against Rutgers if we're gonna shut up all these Spartan trolls, with their amazing command of facts and football knowledge and everything...

 

[hungry]

The call of TD for Michigan was just a little something called "2nd effort." I've seen several similar plays just like this in the last 2 weeks...

Conklin clearly threw Bolden down onto Cook and we have seen yet again this past weekend how several officials on the field and a replay official can combine to blow a call.

 

[Sbee]

The call of TD for Michigan was just a little something called "2nd effort." I've seen several similar plays just like this in the last 2 weeks...

Conklin clearly threw Bolden down onto Cook and we have seen yet again this past weekend how several officials on the field and a replay official can combine to blow a call.

for the TD, I'm ok with second effort but he was stopped for about 6 seconds before he crossed to goal line. I've also seen plays where a player was stopped for a second and it was whistled.

If you want to say that Conklin held Bolden with his right arm and then used a limp left arm to throw him, I guess I'm not going to convince you otherwise. You could argue that Conklin also forced him to cock his head, make eye contact with Cook and lead with the crown of his helmet. Conklin prevented him from lifting his head up to avoid that contact and also prevented him from putting his arms out to break the fall.

In close games, there's a tendency to look for everything that didn't go your way and think about how it would be different. It's easier to focus on things out of your control than what's in your control. I haven't heard a lot of complaining about not being able to execute a punt, only having 9 guys to block 11, giving up 300+ yards passing, or not being able to get a first down to put the game away. The question I have is do you think that officiating cost you the game? I understand that you most likely would have won if every close call went your way, but do you think enough of those close calls went MSU's way that it was the deciding factor in the game?

 

[hungry]

No, officiating didn't decide the game, nor do I need/want you to attempt to psychoanalyze why I feel the way I do about this play or that play. Somehow I suspect you have very little training in that area of expertise.

 

[Sbee]

No, officiating didn't decide the game, nor do I need/want you to attempt to psychoanalyze why I feel the way I do about this play or that play. Somehow I suspect you have very little training in that area of expertise.

I don't think you need a PhD to figure that one out. Every thread seems to lead back to the msu game. If there's a questionable call in the MN game, it's contrasted to the msu game. If you guys are talking about the duke Miami game, it goes back to officiating in the msu game, conversations about the 2015 michigan defense turn into re hashing the same calls.

 

[Michlady]

I think we are #1 in special teams

 

[Gulo Blue]

I don't think you need a PhD to figure that one out. Every thread seems to lead back to the msu game. If there's a questionable call in the MN game, it's contrasted to the msu game. If you guys are talking about the duke Miami game, it goes back to officiating in the msu game, conversations about the 2015 michigan defense turn into re hashing the same calls.

A lot of people are talking about those 3 games together. Are you not aware?

...they compare it to Bama's kick 6 sometimes too.

 

[Sbee]

Sbee, you're a douche bag and nobody gives a fuck what you think.



There.

I said it. Everyone - Spartans and others - agree.

Seriously. You're a fucking douche bag. In all respects. No one likes you around here. Or cares what you say.


Really.

Almost all the time.

for someone who is so proud of his high school grades you sure do argue like a 4th grader.

 

[Sbee]

A lot of people are talking about those 3 games together. Are you not aware?

...they compare it to Bama's kick 6 sometimes too.

Come on, any mention of officiating on this board leads to complaining about the calls in the MSU game. No targeting against MN, talk about Bolden, ACC suspends officials, complain about the MSU game, discussion about the defense, someone complains about the penalties in the MSU game. Let's not pretend that there's equal discussion about the bama kick 6 game. for the last few weeks, every thread comes back to penalties in our game, not the things the team could control. that leads someone to believe that there is a feeling that the refs cost them the game, which I disagree with. there were a lot of bad calls that game but I don't think they favored one side much more than the other.

 

[byco42]

for the TD, I'm ok with second effort but he was stopped for about 6 seconds before he crossed to goal line. I've also seen plays where a player was stopped for a second and it was whistled.

If you want to say that Conklin held Bolden with his right arm and then used a limp left arm to throw him, I guess I'm not going to convince you otherwise. You could argue that Conklin also forced him to cock his head, make eye contact with Cook and lead with the crown of his helmet. Conklin prevented him from lifting his head up to avoid that contact and also prevented him from putting his arms out to break the fall.