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MSNBC fails to show one minority speaker

tsmith7559

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I guess when you label a party racists, you can't very well show minorities speaking on behalf of the GOP......

Instead, they cut to their panel.....to rag on the party.....for being racists...LOL...gotta luv em
 
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I routinely turn that network off every day right after the Scarborough show in the morning, and don't turn it on again until Scarborough comes on the next morning...

So it's good you're keeping us posted on the goings on over there.
 
I routinely turn that network off every day right after the Scarborough show in the morning, and don't turn it on again until Scarborough comes on the next morning...

So it's good you're keeping us posted on the goings on over there.

Michamp, Victors and Thumber know what Im talking about
 
Michamp, Victors and Thumber know what Im talking about

Ha, ha!

I seriously doubt that either MichChamp or Vic spend a lot of time paying attention to much of the nonsense that comes from that silly network...

Don't know as much about MI Thumb, but I also tend to doubt it there, too.

I was kinda busy when Scarborough ended this morning, so I didn't get around to changing the channel right away...out of the corner of my eye I noticed Michael Steele, former chairman of the RNC, was on some panel...and he was pretty talkative too, it seemed.
 
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speaking of racism...

read this,

or this.

Of course in the same story, . . .

<<The convention condemned the incident in a statement, saying, "Two attendees tonight exhibited deplorable behavior. Their conduct was inexcusable and unacceptable. This kind of behavior will not be tolerated.">>

. . . but I can see how the headline would cause you to label all Republicans racists. Good job MC.

. . . and for the second one:

<<A sea of twentysomething bowties and cowboy hats morphing into frat bros apparently shrieking over (or at) a Latina. RNC chairman Reince Priebus quickly stepped up and asked for order and respect for the speaker, suggesting that, yeah, what we had just seen might well have been an ugly outburst of nativism>>

. . . once again in the same story. Don't let the actual facts get in the way of your prejudice.

Here is a quote for you:

?When you judge another, you do not define them, you define yourself.?
 
MSNBC vs Fox re:speeches

Both networks aired the speeches by NH Senator Kelly Ayotte, Ohio Governor John Kasich, Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell, Ann Romney, and NJ Gov. Chris Christie.
But for minority speakers, here’s a handy guide to how the rival networks broke down coverage:
Mia Love: MNSBC was in commercial; Fox aired Shepard Smith‘s coverage of Hurricane Isaac from New Orleans.
Brian Sandoval: MSNBC aired hurricane coverage; Fox’s Sean Hannity interviewed Rep. Eric Cantor.
Ted Cruz: MSNBC cut to panel analysis of the convention; Fox went to commercial and returned with a Scott Walker interview.
Artur Davis: MSNBC aired panel discussion, mentioned his speech 5 minutes in, but didn’t air it; Fox aired the entirety of the speech.
Nikki Haley: both MSNBC and Fox News aired the speech.
Luc? Vela Fortu?o: MSNBC aired more roundtable discussion; Fox News cut away to discussion by Bret Baier and Megyn Kelly.
So with the exception of former Rep. Davis, MSNBC did not omit any speeches that Fox News did not also omit.
Conservatives could make a case that MSNBC’s Davis omission was wrongheaded because of it being the important “Zell Miller” moment of this year’s RNC (and because the network will likely air Charlie Crist‘s DNC speech).
But to accuse the cable network of purposely omitting minority speeches to further a “racist” narrative is just outright false when confronted with the facts. And assigning “purposeful” omission to MSNBC is especially wrong when they covered the speeches almost exactly the same way Fox did.
 
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I don't understand why people who derive all of their information from FoxNews and sites like Drudge project that same intellectual laziness on those who don't agree with the lockstep ignorance.

I can't remember the last time I watched a cable "news" channel.


Nice trolling though, Grand Wizard.
 
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Of course in the same story, . . .

<<The convention condemned the incident in a statement, saying, "Two attendees tonight exhibited deplorable behavior. Their conduct was inexcusable and unacceptable. This kind of behavior will not be tolerated.">>

. . . but I can see how the headline would cause you to label all Republicans racists. Good job MC.

. . . and for the second one:

<<A sea of twentysomething bowties and cowboy hats morphing into frat bros apparently shrieking over (or at) a Latina. RNC chairman Reince Priebus quickly stepped up and asked for order and respect for the speaker, suggesting that, yeah, what we had just seen might well have been an ugly outburst of nativism>>

. . . once again in the same story. Don't let the actual facts get in the way of your prejudice.

Here is a quote for you:

?When you judge another, you do not define them, you define yourself.?



Yeah, it's the same story in the way that John Wilkes Booth and John Hinkley were the same story. :hehe:

Also, I didn't see him label all Republicans as racists anywhere in his post. Or in fact even mention any Republicans at all. You want to lecture him about jumping to wild conclusions, you need to take some of your own medicine.


". . . once again in the same story. Don't let the actual facts get in the way of your prejudice." ~ the Pot calling the Kettle black. :clap:
 
Of course in the same story, . . .

<<The convention condemned the incident in a statement, saying, "Two attendees tonight exhibited deplorable behavior. Their conduct was inexcusable and unacceptable. This kind of behavior will not be tolerated.">>

. . . but I can see how the headline would cause you to label all Republicans racists. Good job MC.

. . . and for the second one:

<<A sea of twentysomething bowties and cowboy hats morphing into frat bros apparently shrieking over (or at) a Latina. RNC chairman Reince Priebus quickly stepped up and asked for order and respect for the speaker, suggesting that, yeah, what we had just seen might well have been an ugly outburst of nativism>>

. . . once again in the same story. Don't let the actual facts get in the way of your prejudice.

Here is a quote for you:

?When you judge another, you do not define them, you define yourself.?

actually, I think the second instance is more shocking than the first. Same story? hardly. this wasn't two idiots that can be so off-handedly dismissed.

anyways, I included both anecdotes to refute the idea that the handful of token minority speakers allows the GOP to step away from 30 years of race-baiting politics, going back to Reagan's states' rights speech.

No, I don't think Reagan himself was racist (or George HW, or George W); but I do think as one of the two major political parties & leadership of this country, the GOP should do more to distance themselves from and disavow the racism inherent in many of their constituents, instead of pandering to it to the degree they feel is necessary to win elections.
 
Michamp, Victors and Thumber know what Im talking about


I don't even have cable, so I don't watch, MSNBC, CNN, FOX, SKY, Bloomberg or any of the other cable media outlets.

I was too busy practicing my golf game with Kid Rock over at Larry Murphy's horse farm while we bitched about how gas is always 30% higher in Clarkston.
 
lol...that is the POST of the week so far Thumb.....kudo's !!!!
 
Yeah, it's the same story in the way that John Wilkes Booth and John Hinkley were the same story. :hehe:

Also, I didn't see him label all Republicans as racists anywhere in his post. Or in fact even mention any Republicans at all. You want to lecture him about jumping to wild conclusions, you need to take some of your own medicine.


". . . once again in the same story. Don't let the actual facts get in the way of your prejudice." ~ the Pot calling the Kettle black. :clap:

So you decide to jump in and completely fail. Good for you.

Word for word, the comments provided were in the stories he linked from the Huffington Post. So yeah, the same stories without your silly qualification. Did you read them?


"Speaking of racism . . ." with links to events that happend at the GOP convention in a thread about minority speakers there? Are you serious? Don't be an idiot, there was no "wild" conclusion on my part at all. It wasn't even veiled all that well.

Also, the completely banal "pot and kettle" analogy doesn't apply either - the "facts" I stated are right in the reported stories at the provided links. Again I ask - did you even read them? I am beginning to doubt it.
 
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actually, I think the second instance is more shocking than the first. Same story? hardly. this wasn't two idiots that can be so off-handedly dismissed.

anyways, I included both anecdotes to refute the idea that the handful of token minority speakers allows the GOP to step away from 30 years of race-baiting politics, going back to Reagan's states' rights speech.

No, I don't think Reagan himself was racist (or George HW, or George W); but I do think as one of the two major political parties & leadership of this country, the GOP should do more to distance themselves from and disavow the racism inherent in many of their constituents, instead of pandering to it to the degree they feel is necessary to win elections.

Yes the same stories - they both were from your links, weren't they?

As far as your other two statements starting with ". . . the idea that a handful of token . . ." - I agree with right up until you say " . . . to the degree they feel is necessary to win elections." That can be a general statement about politicians in general. Why do you think the Obama campaign tries so hard to initiate class warfare, or tries to scare old people that the Republicans want to take away their Medicare? Neither side is going to stop pandering to their constituents.

The GOP and the Democrats should do more, but will they? Probably not. So what's the point of saying it about one but not the other? Oh that's right, you were just making a point, expecting you wouldn't be called on it.
 
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regarding the 2nd story, I'm not entirely convinced the narrative matches what happened based on the video, but it honestly wouldn't surprise me anymore either way.
 
MSNBC vs Fox re:speeches

Both networks aired the speeches by NH Senator Kelly Ayotte, Ohio Governor John Kasich, Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell, Ann Romney, and NJ Gov. Chris Christie.
But for minority speakers, here’s a handy guide to how the rival networks broke down coverage:
Mia Love: MNSBC was in commercial; Fox aired Shepard Smith‘s coverage of Hurricane Isaac from New Orleans.
Brian Sandoval: MSNBC aired hurricane coverage; Fox’s Sean Hannity interviewed Rep. Eric Cantor.
Ted Cruz: MSNBC cut to panel analysis of the convention; Fox went to commercial and returned with a Scott Walker interview.
Artur Davis: MSNBC aired panel discussion, mentioned his speech 5 minutes in, but didn’t air it; Fox aired the entirety of the speech.
Nikki Haley: both MSNBC and Fox News aired the speech.
Luc? Vela Fortu?o: MSNBC aired more roundtable discussion; Fox News cut away to discussion by Bret Baier and Megyn Kelly.
So with the exception of former Rep. Davis, MSNBC did not omit any speeches that Fox News did not also omit.
Conservatives could make a case that MSNBC’s Davis omission was wrongheaded because of it being the important “Zell Miller” moment of this year’s RNC (and because the network will likely air Charlie Crist‘s DNC speech).
But to accuse the cable network of purposely omitting minority speeches to further a “racist” narrative is just outright false when confronted with the facts. And assigning “purposeful” omission to MSNBC is especially wrong when they covered the speeches almost exactly the same way Fox did.

LOL...watch Mia's speech on Fox(certainly longer than a commercial spot, lol...another excuse??)...AS WELL as every minority listed on the program...
 
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