no more blow jobs or anal in Michigan?!?

[Michchamp]

At first it was just a suspicion, but I just did a search engine search for "oral and anal sex outlawed in Michigan" and came up with this and this.

Ostensibly, laws against sodomy, which were made unconstitutional by the U.S. Supreme Court 2003, have long been on the books in Michigan, and no one has bothered to remove them.

Jones claims he just didn't want a food fight over a tangential and unrelated non-issue to derail or interfere with the passage of his animal protection legislation.

sounds like a lame excuse; i just read elsewhere he claimed removing the language would permit child sodomy, but its a fucking animal rights bill.

 

[tinselwolverine]

sounds like a lame excuse; i just read elsewhere he claimed removing the language would permit child sodomy, but its a fucking animal rights bill.

Anyway, apparently the bill doesn't put any more unenforceable and unconstitutional restrictions to the rights and behaviors of consenting adults on the books than there already are.

It does make me wonder about my own legal status when I was becoming a sexually active teenager back in the late 70s in Michigan, decades before the U.S. Supreme Court made its ruling in 2003 - although nobody I knew back then seemed to be particularly concerned about it.

 

[Spartanmack]

teh second link I posted explained that state sen snuck the language clearly referring to sexual contact between people into the bill, in addition to animals.

it keeps bestiality illegal, while including blow jobs between a man and his lady in the definition of unnatural abominable conduct or whatever.

You do realize that the second link you posted actually says the opposite of what you say it says, right? According to your authoritative post from boingboing.net, the language about humans was already in the law for decades and this Jones guy left it in there to avoid a fight and risk getting the updated animal rights portion of the already existing bill shot down. It even quotes Jones saying something to the effect that starting such a fight that would risk killing the updated animal rights language wouldn't be worth it because as he acknowledges, such laws are meaningless since the Supreme Court ruling. So don't worry, if you move back to michigan, you can keep all your strap-ons.

Either you're a horrible lawyer who doesn't understand pretty simple concepts or you're just an uber-left, immature partisan hack who likes to misrepresent minor nonsense and make it seem like it's something it's not and also some kind of big deal so you can go off on another "Republicans are crazy" rant. You're both actually, but you already knew that. Too bad so many others here (Tinsel excluded) don't actually do their own research and they just buy your nonsense hook, line and sinker.

 

[biggunsbob]

Seriously do we really want our politicians Republican or Democrat spending tax payer dollars on bills like this?
Or even time debating crap like this. This is the second link what a wast of time. Pretty typical. This is why old political hacks who have been in office to long need to be weeded out. I sure hope its a hoax..

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Michigan is one of the last states to keep an "anti-sodomy" law on the books, which criminalizes oral and anal sex -- most states dropped theirs when the Supreme Court ruled that law like these are unconstitutional.

Michigan's anti-sodomy law also bans bestiality, lumping together sex between consenting humans and humans who have sex with animals. State Republican Senator Rick Jones has introduced an updated animal cruelty law, SB-0219, which is part of a package of laws aimed at protecting animals from abuse. But it keeps intact the language that bans oral and anal sex between humans.

The bill reads, in part: "A person who commits the abominable and detestable crime against nature either with mankind or with any animal is guilty of a felony" -- that felony is punishable by 15 years in prison.

Jones says he kept the language intact because he thought that his fellow lawmakers and his constituents would have blocked the animal rights reforms if the bill addressed the rights of humans.

The bill has passed the Michigan senate.

"The minute I cross that line and I start talking about the other stuff, I won’t even get another hearing. It’ll be done," Jones (photo, above) said. "Nobody wants to touch it. I would rather not even bring up the topic, because I know what would happen. You’d get both sides screaming and you end up with a big fight that’s not needed because it’s unconstitutional."

Jones added that he believes the only way to repeal the sodomy ban would be a bill striking all unconstitutional laws from the state's books.

"But if you focus on it, people just go ballistic," he said. "If we could put a bill in that said anything that’s unconstitutional be removed from the legal books of Michigan, that’s probably something I could vote for, but am I going to mess up this dog bill that everybody wants? No."

 

[tinselwolverine]

Seriously do we really want our politicians Republican or Democrat spending tax payer dollars on bills like this?
Or even time debating crap like this. This is the second link what a wast of time. Pretty typical. This is why old political hacks who have been in office to long need to be weeded out. I sure hope its a hoax..

The fact that it's an issue is an internet hoax.

And it's really only an issue on the internet; it wasn't an issue on the floor of the Michigan state senate.

It's an animal protection bill.

Nothing in the language of the bill changes the unconstitutionality of existing laws that simply haven't been stricken from the books since the Supreme Court ruled those laws unconstitutional in 2003.

The language wasn't changed specifically to avoid the kind of irrelevant and tangential debate that you're describing.

The article you posted - I think it's the same as one of the articles I linked to - pretty much spells that out.