Offer the moon for Giancarlo

[durtymrclean]

I'm talking: Nick Castellanos, Rick Porcello, Drew Smyly, Andy Dirks, Brennan Boesch, Jhonny Peralta, and any other prospect the Marlins mention.

 

[tomdalton22]

I'm talking: Nick Castellanos, Rick Porcello, Drew Smyly, Andy Dirks, Brennan Boesch, Jhonny Peralta, and any other prospect the Marlins mention.

The Marlins won't trade good cheap players.....they only trade players that have large salaries. He isn't going anywhere.

 

[durtymrclean]

The Marlins won't trade good cheap players.....they only trade players that have large salaries. He isn't going anywhere.

He could demand a trade... and he would be completely justified.

 

[tomdalton22]

He could demand a trade... and he would be completely justified.

How would it be justified?

 

[spockmaster]

How would it be justified?

because Loria is destroying the team, why would Stanton want to play there anymore? Theyre basically guaranteed last place and 100 losses this year because Loria is an asshole.

 

[durtymrclean]

How would it be justified?

The complete buffoonery the marlins front office is displaying on a yearly basis.

 

[wheels002]

He deserves to be traded but they dont have to. It wouldnt hurt to make a call but they wont deal him.

 

[tomdalton22]

because Loria is destroying the team, why would Stanton want to play there anymore? Theyre basically guaranteed last place and 100 losses this year because Loria is an asshole.

Destroying what team.....the one that finished last and 29 games out of first place?

 

[spockmaster]

Destroying what team.....the one that finished last and 29 games out of first place?

i mean the entire team itself. the marlins and loria have zero credibility now.

 

[byco42]

Destroying what team.....the one that finished last and 29 games out of first place?

Do some research on Loria. This is not the first team he's sabotaged. He makes Gordon Gekko seem like Eugene Debs. He should not be an owner, except that Selig has his fresh pubic hair in his mouth.

 

[tomdalton22]

Do some research on Loria. This is not the first team he's sabotaged. He makes Gordon Gekko seem like Eugene Debs. He should not be an owner, except that Selig has his fresh pubic hair in his mouth.

He does it differently but he does have 2 WS championships in the past 20 years. After last years debacle I don't blame him for blowing up the team.

 

[byco42]

He does it differently but he does have 2 WS championships in the past 20 years. After last years debacle I don't blame him for blowing up the team.

So I guess you are not going to do the research, if only to learn that Loria was not involved with the Marlins when they won the World Series in 1997.

 

[tomdalton22]

So I guess you are not going to do the research, if only to learn that Loria was not involved with the Marlins when they won the World Series in 1997.

so the Marlins have 2 WS in the past 20 years and the current owner only has one. They have been doing the same thing since they came into the league. The owner has every right to run his business any way he sees fit. If the current team finishes last place why not blow it up vs. paying out another $112M for a last place team?

 

[byco42]

so the Marlins have 2 WS in the past 20 years and the current owner only has one. They have been doing the same thing since they came into the league. The owner has every right to run his business any way he sees fit. If the current team finishes last place why not blow it up vs. paying out another $112M for a last place team?

And the fans have every right to not invest in the team that this owner keep rubbling to the ground. You need to read more on the 2002 shell game that got Loria the Marlins, Henry the Red Sox and the Expos a ticket out of Montreal. Then determine if you can trust Loria and his intentions.

 

[kalinecountry]

Do some research on Loria. This is not the first team he's sabotaged. He makes Gordon Gekko seem like Eugene Debs. He should not be an owner, except that Selig has his fresh pubic hair in his mouth.

And the fans have every right to not invest in the team that this owner keep rubbling to the ground. You need to read more on the 2002 shell game that got Loria the Marlins, Henry the Red Sox and the Expos a ticket out of Montreal. Then determine if you can trust Loria and his intentions.

Posts of the day!!

 

[tomdalton22]

And the fans have every right to not invest in the team that this owner keep rubbling to the ground. You need to read more on the 2002 shell game that got Loria the Marlins, Henry the Red Sox and the Expos a ticket out of Montreal. Then determine if you can trust Loria and his intentions.

believe me....I don't trust any business owner and I don't know what is actual intensions are. My point is it is his team and he can run it how he wants....and I don't blame him. He treats his team as a business unlike some owners that are in it for business and other reasons.

 

[byco42]

believe me....I don't trust any business owner and I don't know what is actual intensions are. My point is it is his team and he can run it how he wants....and I don't blame him. He treats his team as a business unlike some owners that are in it for business and other reasons.

You see, no, he cannot, in the instance where his actions serve as antipathy to the purpose of having a professional sports franchise, where the shareholders, emotional and literal, are the fans who contribute to its viability and where there is an established pattern of continuously signing players to long term, lucrative contracts in the guise of building a winning franchise and summarily divesting them for unproven players.

The Marlins' needed tax money to build that stadium and publicly asked for it, and in return, they were going to build a winning organization. And Loria welshed on that agreement. He's never going to fulfill it. 2014 payroll obligation: $5.5 million. 2015: $0. Not a formula for loyalty or momentum or incentive to improve.

Only other team with clean slate in 2015 is the Houston Astros.

 

[tomdalton22]

You see, no, he cannot, in the instance where his actions serve as antipathy to the purpose of having a professional sports franchise, where the shareholders, emotional and literal, are the fans who contribute to its viability and where there is an established pattern of continuously signing players to long term, lucrative contracts in the guise of building a winning franchise and summarily divesting them for unproven players.

The Marlins' needed tax money to build that stadium and publicly asked for it, and in return, they were going to build a winning organization. And Loria welshed on that agreement. He's never going to fulfill it. 2014 payroll obligation: $5.5 million. 2015: $0. Not a formula for loyalty or momentum or incentive to improve.

Only other team with clean slate in 2015 is the Houston Astros.

I don't blame the owner for having the stadium built with the taxpayer's money....I blame the taxpayers. WTF were they thinking? Probably the worst attencance in MLB over the past 10-20 years and they think building a new stadium was the answer? No way that new building should have been built. The Marlins built a new stadium and signed some big name players and they were still only 18th in attendance last year. They had the all time worst attendance for a team with a new building. The people of Miami do not support that team.

 

[byco42]

I don't blame the owner for having the stadium built with the taxpayer's money....I blame the taxpayers. WTF were they thinking? Probably the worst attencance in MLB over the past 10-20 years and they think building a new stadium was the answer? No way that new building should have been built. The Marlins built a new stadium and signed some big name players and they were still only 18th in attendance last year. They had the all time worst attendance for a team with a new building. The people of Miami do not support that team.

When you come off half-informed (AGAIN) it dilutes your argument. There was no referendum on the allocation of tax monies to fund the Miami Stadium. They drew 2.2 million fans and you completely sidestepped the main point of my last post.

 

[tomdalton22]

When you come off half-informed (AGAIN) it dilutes your argument. There was no referendum on the allocation of tax monies to fund the Miami Stadium. They drew 2.2 million fans and you completely sidestepped the main point of my last post.

I figured that building a stadium would be put up for a vote....shame on the city of Miami then....not the taxpayers. Either way....someone was stupid. As far as having 2.2 million fans...that is still the lowest total for a new stadium since 1982 and they are in the 8th largest market.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/tomvanr...ns-at-a-first-year-ballpark-in-over-a-decade/

As far as the owner promising to field a competitive team....he broke that promise in the first year while he spent almost $120M to finish last place and 29 games back.