OT: Most Controversial "Team" in 21st Century MLB?

[turok]

There is no comparable "MLB General" Board here to the NFL General Board on this forum, so I had to post this in the Detroit Tigers' Board.

Reading the "Carlos Zambrano" thread gave me the idea, to see if I could create an entire roster or "team" scenario of the most hated, and/or despised, and/or troubled, and/or controversial MLB players, since the turn of the now 21st century...gonna be hard to fill all of the spots in the field, due to some sharing the same spots, but whatever...If anyone can come up with or thinks of any other player(s) who they think could be included, or are "worse" than those that I have listed below, go ahead and indulge yourself, or perhaps create a mostly or wholly entirely different team of misfits and ne'er-do-wells...heh!!



I just did those who played in the 21st century,(and some had also late in the 20th) and didn't do separate leagues, as that would take a lot more time just scanning rosters, and trying to remember, and some would likely be borderline. Don't remind me of any who ONLY played in the 20th, such as Ty Cobb, BUT if you want to create a "team" of all 20th century players, be my guest.



C: POSada (Yankees) (due to his whining about playing time and complaints about his precipitous drop in the Yankees lineup when it was OBVIOUSLY clear to everyone not named Jorge, that he sucked ass at the plate, and yeah I know that he was mostly a DH this season)

Backup C: Pierzynski (White Sox) (When I ALMOST finish typing his initials and surname into Google, the suggestion of "is a Douche" immediately pops up...that'll work...LOL!!!)

1B: Dimitri Young (Tigers) (being castoff from the team, for reasons that are still not completely clear, during the heat of the Tigers '06 race for the ALCD title)

2B: Brandon Phillips (Reds) ("All they do is bitch and moan about everything, all of them, they're little bitches, all of 'em." said about the Cardinals in the '10 season, who he then instigated a brawl with by attacking their catcher, Molina)

SS: Hanley Ramirez (slacker extraordinaire, but being on the Marlins team is "almost" an excuse)


3B: Alex Rodriguez (Yankees) (admitted roider and Class A...hell..he is in a class all by himself, self-absorbed, PRIMADONNA).

OF: Barry Bonds (Giants) (PRIMADONNA, and the absolute epitome of controversial, with apparently far more doubters than believers on his side... 'nuff said)

OF: Gary Sheffield (Yankees, Marlins, Tigers, Mets, ect...) (aloof, controversial, outspoken, suspected roider, primadonna and purposely in lowercase..thats cuz he just couldn't quite make the cut for top 5 EVER in MLB..hahahaa!!)

OF: Manny Ramirez (Indians, Red Sox) (PRIMADONNA...Manny being Manny esp. for self-being self-ousted from MLB early last season for testing positive for banned substances)

4th OF: Elijah Dukes (mostly for his troubles outside baseball, and he now IS outside of MLB, what a waste, the ULTIMATE professional sports "baby-daddy" and that is even taking into consideration former NBA/NFL players, did he ever even briefly think about wearing a "raincoat" over his weenie?? What a dumbass!!)

DH: Dunn (Nationals, White Sox) (what an appropriate surname you now have, Adam!! The longer that you stubbornly remain a White Sox, with that 3 years' remaining millwheel of a contract around the WS franchise's neck, the more hated you will likely become by their fans, not that many of the "Southsiders" do not so richly deserve this hitless wonder & team embarASSment, IMO. There is a slight chance that he will turn it around, but I sure wouldn't want to bet even 1 large on it.)

SP: Roger Clemens (Red Sox, Astros, Yankees) (PRIMADONNA...when you "Google" the capital-letters POS, his name "should" be on top of the search listings, with millions of hits...lol!!)

SP: Weaver (Angels) The newest member to this club, his now infamous bitching, cussing, and whining episode @ Maggs during the past season, for allegedly watching his homer for too long before rounding the bases, and the .gif of the Guillen at-bat later, where he mocks Weaver and deliberately takes his sweet time watching his homer, doing a exaggerated bat-drop/toss, then hopping and dancing on his way to first to round the bases. I have seen the .gif online on occasion, and it was not only displayed by Tigers fans, but Rangers, Mariners, and A's fans as well.

SP: Carlos Zambrano (Cubs) (the subject of a thread on this board, fighting with teammates, anger issues, ect, ect, ect...)


RP: Kyle Farnsworth: (Tigers, Yankees, Royals, Rays) (has the vast majority of ANY team's fans ever liked him being on their team?!? & the Rays' hundred-odd fans don't count..haha!!)



CL: Papelbon (Red Sox) (Papsmear...that evil-eyed STARE that he is infamous for, primadonna, whiner, asshole-in-chief)

 

[kalinecountry]

good list of Shyt heads, I was thinking of a couple more, albert belle if he fits the time frame, and this guy nyjer morgan.
edit, and that malcontent milton bradley?

 

[Mitchrapp]

Good lineup and you gotta make a spot for Albert Belle. He was a bad ass.

 

[turok]

KalineCountry[/color]]good list of Shyt heads, I was thinking of a couple more, albert belle if he fits the time frame, and this guy nyjer morgan.
edit, and that malcontent milton bradley?

Yeah, KC/Ron those three are <s>good</s> bad ones, I just did this list quickly on a lark, and off the top of my head, I knew that there were many more...heh!!

 

[turok]

Mitch[/color]]Good lineup and you gotta make a spot for Albert Belle. He was a bad ass.

Yeah, Albert sure was in his day, and I just remembered how damned lucky we Tigers fans were, that Juan-Gone didn't sign that reportedly 8 year, 140M contract that he was offered by Smith, else the Tigers might not have even sniffed the '06 postseason as a result.

 

[kingofdetroit57]

How about Urbina out of the pen? Don't get much more fucked up than a guy who gets drunk and fights teammates on the plane or who hacks up servants with a machete for the hell of it.

 

[bavarianinnman]

how about john rocker?

 

[Mitchrapp]

Now that I think about he said 21st century so no Belle or Rocker.

 

[bavarianinnman]

wasnt sure exactly the years rocker was playen, and didnt feel like looken them up

 

[turok]

How about Urbina out of the pen? Don't get much more fucked up than a guy who gets drunk and fights teammates on the plane or who hacks up servants with a machete for the hell of it.

Didn't know that "Ugly" Ugueth Urbina got drunk and fought his teammates, maybe they were really very lucky that there wasn't a knife on him or nearby, what a whackjob that guy turned out to be.

 

[jimrice]

Fun topic.

Don't agree at all about Posada, Dunn or Papelbon.

Posada gets a pass after a decade and a half of service. He essentially had a bad day and made a mistake. Objectively, he's pretty solid.

Dunn had a ridiculously shitty year, but there's every indication that he felt terrible about it. The guy has been a big time producer for nearly a decade. He might suddenly be terrible, but I don't see how it's a character problem.

Papelbon looks like a total idiot, agree with that. But, he's been a nice player. He may be a whiner, I don't recall.


I think a lot of opposition fans would put Valverde on the list for his nonsense on the mound.

 

[turok]

Fun topic.

Don't agree at all about Posada, Dunn or Papelbon.

Posada gets a pass after a decade and a half of service. He essentially had a bad day and made a mistake. Objectively, he's pretty solid.

Dunn had a ridiculously shitty year, but there's every indication that he felt terrible about it. The guy has been a big time producer for nearly a decade. He might suddenly be terrible, but I don't see how it's a character problem.

Papelbon looks like a total idiot, agree with that. But, he's been a nice player. He may be a whiner, I don't recall.


I think a lot of opposition fans would put Valverde on the list for his nonsense on the mound.

Well I did mention "controversial" in the topic of my thread, so that I could add more names to the list, instead of just troublemakers, and as far as Posada, I was browsing the Yankees board during the time last summer that his troubles with the team were being made news, so the Yankee regulars who posted quite a few threads bashing him kinda influenced me...heh!!

Edit: Dunn did mention that he felt "bad" about his season-long slump, BUT he also later backpedaled a bit when he thought that he was being misunderstood by the sports media, and claimed that he wasn't going to retire based only upon his lack of production, but would if the game was no longer enjoyable for him. That might mean that he will remain a White Sox regardless of how good or bad he is at the plate for the remainder of his contract with them...but that is JMO.

I am sure that there are many fans of other teams, if not some of their players themselves, who may also dislike "Big Potato's" dancing and gestures on the mound after a save and/or Tigers' win, BUT he certainly backs up what he says and does with absolute perfection, as far as when in a true save situation. I wasn't being a total Tigers' homer, by not including Valverde, or exempting controversial/troublesome Tigers players in the past either, by my adding Sheffield, Farnsworth, and Young.

 

[Thumb]

How do you blame Brandon Phillips for the brawl vs. the Cards?

I watched replays of that tons of times, and it was Yadier Molina who got in his face and started it when Phillips came to the plate.

He's a douchebag for saying what he said about them, but you can't blame him for the fight.

That was Molina letting Phillips get under his skin.

 

[turok]

How do you blame Brandon Phillips for the brawl vs. the Cards?

I watched replays of that tons of times, and it was Yadier Molina who got in his face and started it when Phillips came to the plate.

He's a douchebag for saying what he said about them, but you can't blame him for the fight.

That was Molina letting Phillips get under his skin.

I never saw the replay, just read about it in a couple of articles, that indicated that Phillips started the brawl.

 

[turok]

Hmm... maybe posting this topic wasn't such a good idea after all, oh well, live and learn...heh!!

 

[Thumb]

How do you blame Brandon Phillips for the brawl vs. the Cards?

I watched replays of that tons of times, and it was Yadier Molina who got in his face and started it when Phillips came to the plate.

He's a douchebag for saying what he said about them, but you can't blame him for the fight.

That was Molina letting Phillips get under his skin.

I never saw the replay, just read about it in a couple of articles, that indicated that Phillips started the brawl.

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=10812129

 

[kingofdetroit57]

How about Urbina out of the pen? Don't get much more fucked up than a guy who gets drunk and fights teammates on the plane or who hacks up servants with a machete for the hell of it.

Didn't know that "Ugly" Ugueth Urbina got drunk and fought his teammates, maybe they were really very lucky that there wasn't a knife on him or nearby, what a whackjob that guy turned out to be.

Yep, that's why he was shipped out suddenly for Placido.

http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2005/06/drunk-punchphp/

The rumor was that it was with Farnsworth, but nobody really ever said. Farnsworth would have destroyed his ass.

I had heard there was more than one incident with teammates, but this was the worst and last straw.

I think I recall his mom or sister getting kidnapped for ransom around that same time too.

I really believe that incident was a major factor in Trammell getting canned that fall as manager. He had lost control of that team, which was unfortunate.