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PFF Review Week 4

grandy

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DET-SEA GRADES: MIXED NIGHT FROM RUSSELL WILSON
BEN STOCKWELL
4 HOURS AGO


Here are the top takeaways and highest-graded players from the Lions-Seahawks game:

Seattle Seahawks
? The Seahawks welcomed Kam Chancellor back into the starting lineup against the Bears last week, but he reserved his biggest impact for Monday Night Football (+2.9) against the Lions. In spite of a trio of missed tackles, Chancellor still earned his highest coverage grade (+3.1) since the Seahawks? Super Bowl victory over the Broncos.

? A mixed night for Russell Wilson (-1.3), with some elusive work in the pocket paired with an accurate night of passing, but some sloppy ball security to let that work down. Wilson evaded sacks on six occasions (including two on the same play twice) but a trio of fumbles, including one that Caraun Reid (-2.4) scooped up for Detroit?s only touchdown, marred a night on which Wilson looked somewhere back to his best as a passer, going six-for-six for 156 yards on intermediate targets (+3.2 passing grade).

? With Brandon Mebane absent due to injury, Jordan Hill (+3.0) claimed his first start of the season and continued his strong start in run defense. Hill notched a trio of pressures (having been blanked by the Bears last week) and was a consistently disruptive force against the run, working against Detroit center Travis Swanson (-3.9), who turned in his fourth straight negative grade of the season.

Top performers:

DE Michael Bennett (+4.5)

DT Jordan Hill (+3.0)

S Kam Chancellor (+2.9)

LB K.J. Wright (+1.9)

LB Bobby Wagner (+1.7)



Detroit Lions
? There were no turnovers for Matthew Stafford (-1.3) last night, but there was only one big play on the Lions? final drive to Timothy Wright (-2.3) to offset a couple of poor throws throwing to the left side of the field. Stafford didn?t complete any of the four passes he targeted 10 or more yards in the air outside the left numbers (-2.6 passing grade) and for the season has only completed two of his 14 pass attempts in that area. In spite of producing his best game of the season to date, Stafford finishes the first month of the season as our lowest graded quarterback.

? Personnel usage has limited Travis Lewis (+2.1) to only 46 snaps this season, but he left his mark on the first half of last night?s game, in spite of only playing 11 snaps. Lewis recorded three stops in his limited opportunities, including a sack beating Derrick Coleman (-0.9) early in the second quarter. Lewis had already beaten Coleman and Jimmy Graham (+0.3) earlier in the game for his two stops in run defense.

? Rookie running back Ameer Abdullah (+0.8) didn?t have much to work with last night, but he gained all the available yardage (and a little bit more) that he was given by his offensive linemen. Only 33 yards on 13 carries doesn?t leap off the page as a solid performance, but Abdullah gained as many yards after contact as he did in total, breaking three tackles in the process during his second start of the season.

Top performers:

DE Darryl Tapp (+3.1)

LT Riley Reiff (+2.1)

LB Travis Lewis (+2.1)

DE Ezekiel Ansah (+1.7)

S James Ihedigbo (+1.6)

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2015/10/06/det-sea-grades-mixed-night-from-russell-wilson/
 
I'd be curious to know what their formula is that they use to get these numbers. Sometimes they don't seem to make sense.
 
I'd be curious to know what their formula is that they use to get these numbers. Sometimes they don't seem to make sense.

You are supposed to just cherry pick the numbers that fit your argument about a player...like LKP does!
 
I'd be curious to know what their formula is that they use to get these numbers. Sometimes they don't seem to make sense.

It their opinion.

They watch the play and decide what an average player would do in that position and whether that player performed better or worse than the imaginary average player.

How they get it out so quickly after the game and without the All 22 footage is beyond me. I've long questioned these grades. Especially for positions like O-line where they don't exactly know what the call is.
 
It their opinion.

They watch the play and decide what an average player would do in that position and whether that player performed better or worse than the imaginary average player.

How they get it out so quickly after the game and without the All 22 footage is beyond me. I've long questioned these grades. Especially for positions like O-line where they don't exactly know what the call is.

It is odd. Reiff gets the best grade on the night but he had one of the biggest penalties of the night...the personal foul. I would think that those kinds of things should be considered.
 
As viewers we tend to remember the big plays and the big mistakes. These ratings are supposed to bridge that gap. At least that's what I'm led to believe. I'll always be skeptical of a rating that is subjective and not objective.
 
It their opinion.

They watch the play and decide what an average player would do in that position and whether that player performed better or worse than the imaginary average player.

How they get it out so quickly after the game and without the All 22 footage is beyond me. I've long questioned these grades. Especially for positions like O-line where they don't exactly know what the call is.

I've never liked PFF myself and I guess it wouldn't surprise me if some guys watching at home saying "that play deserves a -.03." Just add them up at games end.
 
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Hard to tell, typically you don't hear the name of an O-lineman unless he committed a penalty or was obviously beat (or sometimes an important block on a big play) so it's no surprise that from an overall look after viewing the game once, it's easier to recall the negatives.

I'm not blindly accepting PFF's grade, in fact I'm skeptical of anything they post, but it would be tough to know for sure without focusing on Reiff all game. There's also a lot going on with each play, looking at a player in a vacuum doesn't even necessarily say anything. I suspect there are several degrees of subjectivity with these graders, but I applaud their efforts. There's not much to go on when it comes to player evaluations for the average fan, in fact I'd say most traditional stats are crap and don't really say much without context.
 
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