the jesuits were founded as part of the counter-reformation, no? wasnt their nick "the shock troops of the vatican?"
I have a couple amusing anecdotes regarding their arrogance and incompetence. I can share them here if you like. they will probably irritate byco (cause he sent his kids to u of d) and kawdup (because he's a traitor to the ideals of the blessed brother ed rice and defended the jesuits last time we spoke.)
Well they were roundly hated in 16th century for their power grabs, and disbanded in the late 18th century, but were re-instituted in the early 19th century by one of the Pope Pious's.
Traitor to the ideals of Edmund Ignatious Rice? How so? I nearly became a Christian Brother, so I am failing to see how you drew that conclusion.
But, hey, my dad also went to U of D, and espoused Jesuit ideals all through his life.
You might need to explain that last one, because I respectfully disagree.
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