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Pope: financial market are a tyranny

the jesuits were founded as part of the counter-reformation, no? wasnt their nick "the shock troops of the vatican?"

I have a couple amusing anecdotes regarding their arrogance and incompetence. I can share them here if you like. they will probably irritate byco (cause he sent his kids to u of d) and kawdup (because he's a traitor to the ideals of the blessed brother ed rice and defended the jesuits last time we spoke.)

Well they were roundly hated in 16th century for their power grabs, and disbanded in the late 18th century, but were re-instituted in the early 19th century by one of the Pope Pious's.

Traitor to the ideals of Edmund Ignatious Rice? How so? I nearly became a Christian Brother, so I am failing to see how you drew that conclusion.

But, hey, my dad also went to U of D, and espoused Jesuit ideals all through his life.

You might need to explain that last one, because I respectfully disagree.
 
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Well they roundly hated in 16th century for their power grabs, and disbanded in the late 18th century, but were re-instituted in the early 19th century by one of the Pope Pious's.

Traitor to the ideals of Edmund Ignatious Rice? How so? I nearly became a Christian Brother, so I am failing to see how you drew that conclusion.

But, hey, my dad also went to U of D, and espoused Jesuit ideals all through his life.

You might need to explain that last one, because I respectfully disagree.

well, there are exceptions to every rule, but generally the Christian Brothers were founded to educate poor boys and the Jesuits educated the rich kids. (in metro-Detroit, both schools charged similar prices for tuition, so they typically both educated rich kids.)
 
well, there are exceptions to every rule, but generally the Christian Brothers were founded to educate poor boys and the Jesuits educated the rich kids. (in metro-Detroit, both schools charged similar prices for tuition, so they typically both educated rich kids.)

ahh, OK - should have made the connection. A bit subtle, but definitely the connection is there.

Next time.
 
I never knew that, but it makes sense. our parish priest's office growing up was well furnished and completly resplendent; he even had.a white bearskin rug and fantastic desk. we were always in awe of the majesty of the church, and knew our place as its humble servants. he drove a very nice luxury sedan, which would have kept christ himself in comfort, were he to return and need to tour his kingdom (the parts in metro detroit at least.)

Don't you remember the pictures of those rides that Jesus tools around in that byco posted on the board? They're like, six figure sports cars.

Jesus rides around in style, Man.
 
Don't you remember the pictures of those rides that Jesus tools around in that byco posted on the board? They're like, six figure sports cars.

Jesus rides around in style, Man.

well, yeah. I would too if I was the son of God, the most powerful entity in the Universe.

plus I would double park wherever I wanted and smite any who complained.

...and I would blast Ministry's "Jesus Built My Hotrod" all the time, even when I drove home at night and everyone else in the neighborhood was trying to sleep.
 
Growing up a preacher's kid, I can attest to the fact that taking a vow of poverty or, giving away material goods, is not exclusive to the Catholic Church. All I was saying is that this Pope - versus others - is more likely to remark on certain topics than others.

The more "contemporary" view might mean less focus on topics like condoms and more focus on things like famine and poverty ...and more consideration for the impoverished in Latin America than the wealthy Church of old Europe.
 
ahh, OK - should have made the connection. A bit subtle, but definitely the connection is there.

Next time.

yeah, hopefully.

side note: there are actually a few Christian Brother's schools in Chicago; they're on the southside, so closer to the ideal of Edmund Rice (in theory, though not practice) they're a little more "earthy" so they do things like this. That is NOT how Coach Kal taught us to behave.
 
Whatever. People are flawed. But if it somehow validates your world view, go ahead. ...

I was hoping you would say that!

my first experience was how they required you to list them as choice number one on the HS entrance exam, or they wouldn't consider you for a scholarship.

now, my mom wanted me to go there (i wanted to go to BR, and so did my dad since it reminded him of his alma mater, Austin Prep), so she made me list UD as #1. BR as #2. (I did get the scholarship from UD)

in the end, she relented and was worried that she ruined my chances for a scholarship from BR because of the listing deal. she called the BR administration, and they told her, in a classic response: "No, unlike some other schools, we don't have a self-image problem so we don't care if he listed us second or even last. We'd love to meet young champ and offer him a scholarship."

it was a good decision: despite BR's reputation as a bunch of partying meatheads, our class sent far more students to Michigan than MSU, which was the opposite at UD. Jesuit Scholarship didn't get them quite as far as advertised. Yo.
 
where would you rather go?

here?
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or here?
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YEAH!!!! WOOO!!!
 
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in the end, she relented and was worried that she ruined my chances for a scholarship from BR because of the listing deal. she called the BR administration, and they told her, in a classic response: "No, unlike some other schools, we don't have a self-image problem so we don't care if he listed us second or even last. We'd love to meet young champ and offer him a scholarship."


Ahhh...interesting...

So you're not necessarily the spoiled brat rich kid I've always assumed you were, just because you went to Brother Rice...
 
I actually would have thought you might likely have been the scholarship kid...

Well in my years, the tuition was just under $1000. I actually didn't need a scholarship, but I did have to work as a janitor after school to help my parents pay for it.

I also know, due to its location in Birmingham, it most certainly did have the rep you ascribe to it. I was just funnin' with ya.
 
Well in my years, the tuition was just under $1000. I actually didn't need a scholarship, but I did have to work as a janitor after school to help my parents pay for it.

I also know, due to its location in Birmingham, it most certainly did have the rep you ascribe to it. I was just funnin' with ya.

If I had it post over again, I would have posted "humble" scholarship kid?
 
I was hoping you would say that!

my first experience was how they required you to list them as choice number one on the HS entrance exam, or they wouldn't consider you for a scholarship.

now, my mom wanted me to go there (i wanted to go to BR, and so did my dad since it reminded him of his alma mater, Austin Prep), so she made me list UD as #1. BR as #2. (I did get the scholarship from UD)

in the end, she relented and was worried that she ruined my chances for a scholarship from BR because of the listing deal. she called the BR administration, and they told her, in a classic response: "No, unlike some other schools, we don't have a self-image problem so we don't care if he listed us second or even last. We'd love to meet young champ and offer him a scholarship."

it was a good decision: despite BR's reputation as a bunch of partying meatheads, our class sent far more students to Michigan than MSU, which was the opposite at UD. Jesuit Scholarship didn't get them quite as far as advertised. Yo.

I'm sure that U of D was relieved you went to Brother Rice.
 
Ahhh...interesting...

So you're not necessarily the spoiled brat rich kid I've always assumed you were, just because you went to Brother Rice...

no. I was the "poor kid" at rich kid schools. By which I mean my parents didn't buy me a new Grand Cherokee when I turned 16, and I didn't get a chance to develop a cool drug problem... I inherited my grandpa's '88 Chevy Celebrity, and had to get after school jobs during the summer and between track & cross country seasons for spending money.

If I got in trouble or did something stupid, there would be no calls to powerful family friends to fix things.

sad face.
 
Well in my years, the tuition was just under $1000. I actually didn't need a scholarship, but I did have to work as a janitor after school to help my parents pay for it.

I also know, due to its location in Birmingham, it most certainly did have the rep you ascribe to it. I was just funnin' with ya.

I think the majority were upper-middle class kids from Birmingham, Bloomfield, Farmington, Troy, etc. but there were a fair number of kids from Royal Oak, Southfield, even Detroit, so it wasn't all like that.

and there were always a handful of those huge catholic families with 5 or more kids. they never had a lot of spare cash, regardless of where they hailed from. Usually the 3rd kids on got free tuition.

the pope loves them big catholic families.
 
I actually would have thought you might likely have been the scholarship kid...

why him?

my test scores were off the charts. I'd totally destroyed their system.

they set the curve... then I sat down with my number 2 pencils, and KA-BLAMMO.

They couldn't contain me.
 
why him?

my test scores were off the charts. I'd totally destroyed their system.

they set the curve... then I sat down with my number 2 pencils, and KA-BLAMMO.

They couldn't contain me.

Had nothing to do with academics; more with what I would have guessed the means background had been.

Although it would have been a pretty uninformed guess, granted.

The post was meant solely to be humerous, though...
 
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