Presidential elections by state education

[tinselwolverine]

it's not terrible - I just felt like being a smart ass. My original response was something along the lines of that's either your job (ripping off charities) or a joke, in which case you were doing your job (writing jokes) but it didn't really work and I didn't feel like taking the time to make it work so I took the low road - but I thought it was kind of clever and not really insulting.

I just still feel bad for all the so called "eletist Hollywood comedy writers" who, at the end of the day, work for an an actual lower livable wage, working under far worse working conditions, than little kids in China and India do.

 

[Spartanmack]

I just still feel bad for all the so called "eletist Hollywood comedy writers" who, at the end of the day, work for an an actual lower livable wage, working under far worse working conditions, than little kids in China and India do.

show them this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wo3qdzlpPdg

and if they're too good for the Post Office maybe they can get jobs working the fryer at McDonald's...

 

[tinselwolverine]

show them this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wo3qdzlpPdg

and if they're too good for the Post Office maybe they can get jobs working the fryer at McDonald's...

I understand this...but I think a job at the post office is kind of hard to get...

...what sane rational person wouldn't WANT to work for the post office...?

...where else can you work where you can literally walk onto the job site...kill all the co-workers that you hate...then go into the courtroom and tell the judge "your Honor, I'm really, really sorry...but because of the job stress...I just went postal..."


Get let off...get stress disability and then collect a full pension and social security benefits?

No fuckin' fryer chef is gonna get that, I guarantee you...

 

[tinselwolverine]

Sorry, dude...the board is messing up...and has been for a couple of days...

 

[Michchamp]

This board IS screwed up. Probably some republican boss somewhere made them fire the one guy in IT who knew what he was doing cause he asked for a raise, figuring they could cut costs by outsourcing his function to some clown in Mumbai.

 

[tinselwolverine]

This board IS screwed up. Probably some republican boss somewhere made them fire the one guy in IT who knew what he was doing cause he asked for a raise, figuring they could cut costs by outsourcing his function to some clown in Mumbai.

Like this guy?


@ 1:50

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TEC1Tcye7A

 

[Sbee]

back on the election topic but Michigan is looking to divide it's electoral votes, a republican move simply because republicans don't live here. I'd have no problem with this if it happened everywhere, I guess they're just trying to steal the next election.


http://www.mlive.com/lansing-news/index.ssf/2014/11/electoral_votes_would_be_split.html

 

[Michchamp]

goddamn republicans.

 

[Spartanmack]

back on the election topic but Michigan is looking to divide it's electoral votes, a republican move simply because republicans don't live here. I'd have no problem with this if it happened everywhere, I guess they're just trying to steal the next election.


http://www.mlive.com/lansing-news/index.ssf/2014/11/electoral_votes_would_be_split.html

So if everybody does it, it's not stealing? Republicans would be smart not to live there - the State is a dump but are you sure they don't? Didn't they almost sweep the midterm? That's what I heard anyway. Maybe it was just all those college educated dems in Detroit voting against their own economic interests.

 

[Sbee]

So if everybody does it, it's not stealing? Republicans would be smart not to live there - the State is a dump but are you sure they don't? Didn't they almost sweep the midterm? That's what I heard anyway. Maybe it was just all those college educated dems in Detroit voting against their own economic interests.

Exactly Mack, if everyone plays by the same rules it's fair. If all states awarded their electoral college votes proportionately it would be fair, it's not fair if michigan awards votes to the losers but texas is winner take all.

I'd prefer the popular vote anyway but this is just another example of republicans trying to win in 2016 by cheating.

 

[Sbee]

So if everybody does it, it's not stealing? Republicans would be smart not to live there - the State is a dump but are you sure they don't? Didn't they almost sweep the midterm? That's what I heard anyway. Maybe it was just all those college educated dems in Detroit voting against their own economic interests.

Also, what an arrogant asshole to say that michigan is a dump. I'd much rather live in michigan than New Jersey.

 

[Spartanmack]

Exactly Mack, if everyone plays by the same rules it's fair. If all states awarded their electoral college votes proportionately it would be fair, it's not fair if michigan awards votes to the losers but texas is winner take all.

I'd prefer the popular vote anyway but this is just another example of republicans trying to win in 2016 by cheating.

Exactly - it's better and you would support it but in this case you don't because Republicans want to do it. And then you blather on with more stupid accusations of cheating because it would only be about fairness if the Dems proposed it - in which case you would be saying "somebody has to do it first - set an example for the other states to follow then those Texas Dems' voices could be heard." I wonder if you'll ever realize how ridiculous you sound making these accusations and whining about Republicans because Dems would never do anything to stack the deck in their favor - at least not legally anyway.

 

[Spartanmack]

Also, what an arrogant asshole to say that michigan is a dump. I'd much rather live in michigan than New Jersey.

Obviously, since you took that seriously, you still don't realize what a stupid, arrogant asshole you sounded like when you said Republicans don't live in Michigan - only a week after they nearly swept the midterm elections. And you would love New Jersey, I'm absolutely certain of that - we have high taxes and hugely wasteful spending by your team. It's kind of like Michigan, except there's real wealth out here for you to confiscate. So much so, that it hasn't collapsed on itself yet despite Dems best efforts. It won't be long though, thanks to you guys we're running huge deficits and based on our pension liabilities we're pretty much doomed. You would love it. Plus, we have an ocean and not only is our biggest city not a shit hole, it's one of the greatest cities in the world.

 

[Sbee]

Obviously, since you took that seriously, you still don't realize what a stupid, arrogant asshole you sounded like when you said Republicans don't live in Michigan - only a week after they nearly swept the midterm elections. And you would love New Jersey, I'm absolutely certain of that - we have high taxes and hugely wasteful spending by your team. It's kind of like Michigan, except there's real wealth out here for you to confiscate. So much so, that it hasn't collapsed on itself yet despite Dems best efforts. It won't be long though, thanks to you guys we're running huge deficits and based on our pension liabilities we're pretty much doomed. You would love it. Plus, we have an ocean and not only is our biggest city not a shit hole, it's one of the greatest cities in the world.

I said republicans don't live in Michigan? that's news to me, I have said that Michigan is a solid blue state in presential elections, that's true, I don't think they've voted for a republican since GHWB. We've had a number of republican governors though, with Engler and now Snyder. in the last 23 years we've had a republican governor for 15 years. There is a big differnece between a Michigan republican and a Nebraska republican. I've said on this board that I've voted for a repuclican governor since I moved back here from Chicago. But of course, all of Michigan's problems are all because of democrats, right? in fact, all problems everywhere are due to democrats?

don't let facts get in the way of your narritive though. to quote Regan "facts are stupid things"

 

[Spartanmack]

I said republicans don't live in Michigan? that's news to me, I have said that Michigan is a solid blue state in presential elections, that's true, I don't think they've voted for a republican since GHWB. We've had a number of republican governors though, with Engler and now Snyder. in the last 23 years we've had a republican governor for 15 years. There is a big differnece between a Michigan republican and a Nebraska republican. I've said on this board that I've voted for a repuclican governor or since I moved back here from Chicago. But of course, all of Michigan's problems are all because of democrats, right? in fact, all problems everywhere are due to democrats?

don't let facts get in the way of your narritive though. to quote Regan "facts are stupid things"

Is that news to you? Because here's the quote straight from the horse's mouth:

back on the election topic but Michigan is looking to divide it's electoral votes, a republican move simply because republicans don't live here. I'd have no problem with this if it happened everywhere, I guess they're just trying to steal the next election.

Are you still saying you didn't say it? And if you're going to buck the trend and take responsibility for it, will you also admit that to a reader, you sound like a stupid, arrogant asshole and given the fact that Republicans nearly swept the midterm elections a week ago, it's appropriate for someone to call you out for it?

Are you blaming the demise of Detroit and the state of the State of Michigan on the fact that there has been a Republican Governor in office 15 of the last 23 years? Up until then, everything was peaches and cream for the Great Lakes State? Are you saying the Republican Governor(s) you voted for has let you down and it's their fault that Michigan is in such bad shape? Talk about not letting facts get in the way of your narrative.

 

[Sbee]

Is that news to you? Because here's the quote straight from the horse's mouth:



Are you still saying you didn't say it? And if you're going to buck the trend and take responsibility for it, will you also admit that to a reader, you sound like a stupid, arrogant asshole and given the fact that Republicans nearly swept the midterm elections a week ago, it's appropriate for someone to call you out for it?

Are you blaming the demise of Detroit and the state of the State of Michigan on the fact that there has been a Republican Governor in office 15 of the last 23 years? Up until then, everything was peaches and cream for the Great Lakes State? Are you saying the Republican Governor(s) you voted for has let you down and it's their fault that Michigan is in such bad shape? Talk about not letting facts get in the way of your narrative.

I misspoke on that, obviously republicans live here, maybe I meant to say republicans don't win here which is the truth in presendential elections.

Now you're looping detroit into your agument because you realized you were wrong on Michigan's state government. I'm not blaming anythign on one particular party, not at all, I'm saying your assertion that it was all democratic leadership that doomed the state is false.

 

[Spartanmack]

I misspoke on that, obviously republicans live here, maybe I meant to say republicans don't win here which is the truth in presendential elections.

Now you're looping detroit into your agument because you realized you were wrong on Michigan's state government. I'm not blaming anythign on one particular party, not at all, I'm saying your assertion that it was all democratic leadership that doomed the state is false.

No, no, no - i'm neither "looping Detroit into" my argument or saying I was wrong on Michigan's State government. You should not have read that into my post because it's not there. And I'm not just blaming Dem leadership - I give most of the blame to the Dem's social welfare programs and organized labor, but I know they didn't do it entirely on their own. My point there is that it's incredibly short sited to point to 23 years of history and draw a conclusion about anyone's culpability in what's happened to Michigan and Detroit in particular - the wheels were set in motion 50+ years ago.

 

[Sbee]

No, no, no - i'm neither "looping Detroit into" my argument or saying I was wrong on Michigan's State government. You should not have read that into my post because it's not there. And I'm not just blaming Dem leadership - I give most of the blame to the Dem's social welfare programs and organized labor, but I know they didn't do it entirely on their own. My point there is that it's incredibly short sited to point to 23 years of history and draw a conclusion about anyone's culpability in what's happened to Michigan and Detroit in particular - the wheels were set in motion 50+ years ago.

You were looping detroit in, you said that Michigan's problems are due to democratic leadership. I pointed out that in recent history we've had republican governors, then you mention detroit, most likely because they have had democratic mayors.

so basically what you're saying is that just about every problem Michigan has is due to Democratic leadership, right? i just want to make sure I understand here.

 

[Spartanmack]

Absolutely every problem Detroit has has been due to its Democrat leaders and their pals in organized labor. And given that it's in Michigan and it's the biggest city in Michigan, it's a big part of what's wrong with the State, so it's relevant. If you're claiming it's not, that's just dumb. As for the rest of the state and it's leadership, it's not the same shit show that Detroit is but it's pretty bad and it's due in large part to the legislature so pointing out that they've had Republican Governors hardly makes the point that Republicans are equally responsible for Michigan's problems.

 

[Sbee]

Absolutely every problem Detroit has has been due to its Democrat leaders and their pals in organized labor. And given that it's in Michigan and it's the biggest city in Michigan, it's a big part of what's wrong with the State, so it's relevant. If you're claiming it's not, that's just dumb. As for the rest of the state and it's leadership, it's not the same shit show that Detroit is but it's pretty bad and it's due in large part to the legislature so pointing out that they've had Republican Governors hardly makes the point that Republicans are equally responsible for Michigan's problems.

first, I'd assume that just about every major city in the US has a democrat as their mayor, if it were failed liberal policies every city would be struggling on the level of detroit.

I'm not going to point the finger at a political party for the cities problems, I think it's a microcosm of america in general, particularly manufacturing. there global forces that are impacting employment opportunities like globalization, emerging economies, and technology eradicating jobs. Detroit had a great run when you could come here without an education and put in a hard days work and make a decent wage, improve your life and improve your childrens opportunities. Those jobs left, the people didn't.