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michlady77

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this is a tough time but the outrage we are feeling now is nothing compared to what the victims are going through. keep tgem in our prayers









good statement
 
At least someone on that campus seems to have the right perspective about this. Those rioting students come across as selfish, petulant children in comparison.
 
newton83 said:
At least someone on that campus seems to have the right perspective about this. Those rioting students come across as selfish, petulant children in comparison.

you feel for the children sure. But you hate to see a rash decision made in the heat of the moment that isnt based on fact and takes away from probably the greatest coaching career of all time. The details Paterno testified about what was told to him by Mcqueery (SP)...if true...then i think he did more than enough by going to the campus police and notifying his supervisor. Mcqueery didnt come out and tell him that he saw Sandusky sodomizing or raping a child. He gave him confused details about some touching that could be deemed inappropriate. I dont blame Joe if thats the case and dont think he deserved his career to end that way. If his testimony did not match McQueerys than JoePa would be in contempt of court and in serious legal trouble....since thats not the case then the stories must have matched and thats what we have to assume is factual. That makes the Boards decision strictly a business matter and if thats the case then i think their decision and the way they went about executing it is fucking fail lol.
 
You are innaccurate with your recount of the story. If you read the GJ report and news from yesterday, McQueary was detailed in his account to Paterno.
 
Scumbag Paterno. He was one of many, maybe the most important one, that could have stopped this years ago. No excuses. He's just lucky his sorry ass isn't in prison.
 
michlady77 said:
this is a tough time but the outrage we are feeling now is nothing compared to what the victims are going through. keep tgem in our prayers









good statement

That is a good statement. Too bad the rest of the PSU student body (the rioters) isn't as respectful.
 
TheVictors03 said:
You are innaccurate with your recount of the story. If you read the GJ report and news from yesterday, McQueary was detailed in his account to Paterno.

According to Paterno or McQueary? I just don't understand what Paterno knew and when. He says he was fooled, as if he was still unaware through '08 or whenever they questioned him. He's either lying or McQueary didn't tell him the details or he's really forgetful or he thought McQueary was wrong.
 
He thought enough to contact the AD yet didn't think anything was wrong? Yeah sure Joe.
 
mhughes0021 said:
newton83 said:
At least someone on that campus seems to have the right perspective about this. Those rioting students come across as selfish, petulant children in comparison.

you feel for the children sure. But you hate to see a rash decision made in the heat of the moment that isnt based on fact and takes away from probably the greatest coaching career of all time. The details Paterno testified about what was told to him by Mcqueery (SP)...if true...then i think he did more than enough by going to the campus police and notifying his supervisor. Mcqueery didnt come out and tell him that he saw Sandusky sodomizing or raping a child. He gave him confused details about some touching that could be deemed inappropriate. I dont blame Joe if thats the case and dont think he deserved his career to end that way. If his testimony did not match McQueerys than JoePa would be in contempt of court and in serious legal trouble....since thats not the case then the stories must have matched and thats what we have to assume is factual. That makes the Boards decision strictly a business matter and if thats the case then i think their decision and the way they went about executing it is fucking fail lol.

You are giving Paterno a huge amount of leniency that isn't warranted by the facts. It's pretty clear that Paterno knew at least that Sandusky had been in a shower, naked, with a 10 year old boy and engaging in "horseplay". I don't know about you, but for me that's enough for me to take some action to get the old pervert away from children. I don't get this attitude where people are excusing Paterno's inaction because he didn't have the full story. Even the details he claims to have heard were enough to do something. The most that ever happened was they told Sandusky to not bring young boys to campus anymore. Basically, "We don't mind what you're doing Jerry as long as it doesn't happen here!" It's bullshit and people are blinded by the doddering old fool's legacy.
 
Red and Guilty said:
TheVictors03 said:
You are innaccurate with your recount of the story. If you read the GJ report and news from yesterday, McQueary was detailed in his account to Paterno.

According to Paterno or McQueary? I just don't understand what Paterno knew and when. He says he was fooled, as if he was still unaware through '08 or whenever they questioned him. He's either lying or McQueary didn't tell him the details or he's really forgetful or he thought McQueary was wrong.

Could be Paterno is going a bit Reagan-Iran/Contra hearing .... I don't recall
 
TheVictors03 said:
Red and Guilty said:
According to Paterno or McQueary? I just don't understand what Paterno knew and when. He says he was fooled, as if he was still unaware through '08 or whenever they questioned him. He's either lying or McQueary didn't tell him the details or he's really forgetful or he thought McQueary was wrong.

Could be Paterno is going a bit Reagan-Iran/Contra hearing .... I don't recall

That's the easiest explanation: when he says he was surprised, he's lying.
 
newton83 said:
mhughes0021 said:
you feel for the children sure. But you hate to see a rash decision made in the heat of the moment that isnt based on fact and takes away from probably the greatest coaching career of all time. The details Paterno testified about what was told to him by Mcqueery (SP)...if true...then i think he did more than enough by going to the campus police and notifying his supervisor. Mcqueery didnt come out and tell him that he saw Sandusky sodomizing or raping a child. He gave him confused details about some touching that could be deemed inappropriate. I dont blame Joe if thats the case and dont think he deserved his career to end that way. If his testimony did not match McQueerys than JoePa would be in contempt of court and in serious legal trouble....since thats not the case then the stories must have matched and thats what we have to assume is factual. That makes the Boards decision strictly a business matter and if thats the case then i think their decision and the way they went about executing it is fucking fail lol.

You are giving Paterno a huge amount of leniency that isn't warranted by the facts. It's pretty clear that Paterno knew at least that Sandusky had been in a shower, naked, with a 10 year old boy and engaging in "horseplay". I don't know about you, but for me that's enough for me to take some action to get the old pervert away from children. I don't get this attitude where people are excusing Paterno's inaction because he didn't have the full story. Even the details he claims to have heard were enough to do something. The most that ever happened was they told Sandusky to not bring young boys to campus anymore. Basically, "We don't mind what you're doing Jerry as long as it doesn't happen here!" It's bullshit and people are blinded by the doddering old fool's legacy.

facts are facts....if he lied in his testimony he would have been charged with perjury by now.....and he isnt. So until he is ill wait to pass such harsh judgement on the man like the rest of the media created. The ONLY reason paterno is gone and mcqueary isnt is because of the media....and thats kinda fucked up thing to do to someone that treated your university so well for 40+ years.
 
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