Racism alive and well in Texas

[tinselwolverine]

you crackers crack me up.

You crack me up cracker.

Don't get your tinsel in a tangle.

 

[zyxt9]

Actually I don't care for the idea she got fired for a tweet. Or if it was a FB post or whatever.

I don't like social media and don't use it simply because it's such a huge invasion of privacy. I actually laugh when I see some dipshit who makes a tweet/facebook post with a little funny pic in it about the NSA or something. It's like they have no sense of irony at all.

But truthfully, this had nothing to do with her work, or seemingly affected it in any way, other than some nosy person ratted her out for it. Suspending her was probably wrong, but the school board were giant pricks for not letting her just resign like she tried, and instead going the extra mile to fire her instead.

Meanwhile some doofus will make a giant thread all about how racism is alive and well in Texas because of something that's not even newsworthy at all except for maybe an improper termination.

precedent has been set for years now and many businesses, not just schools, have terminated employees for posting on FB and Twitter in a manner that is deemed detrimental to the organization.

says tons that after being suspended, she obviously would have gone to her union who basically said she should try to resign so she wouldn't be fired. I find it absolutely right that the board decided to fire her instead of accept her resignation.

teachers are told CONSTANTLY to stop using FB and twitter. the unions will not be able to protect them when they do something this stupid and any company has the right to fire an employee for actions deemed detrimental to their organization.

so the burden then falls on her to file a lawsuit to prove her actions were not detrimental. good luck with THAT. let's see, calling out a group of people who have already rioted and caused destruction of property in a way that is not via an anonymous account but one that is linked to a specific individual.

and to what end? what was she trying to accomplish??? there was nothing good that could possibly come from her post. all it was going to do was stir controversy and cast a bad light on herself. the fact she is an English teacher means that light is going to also be cast on the schools.

there are many times and many ways in which the school execs are dicks, but this is not one of those times. they have the right to fire her. in her contract there is undoubtedly language stating she is responsible for not doing this very type of thing. she violated that contractual agreement to the point the union will not defend her. case closed, she got what she deserved.

oh, and she is a racist just like you are a racist. just because you fail to grasp how any AA can be labeled a racist does not change the fact she is. if she was white, you would have been screaming to have her head on a pike, sucks for you that she isn't, eh? that's what makes you a racist, the fact you believe only whites are capable of being racist.

 

[zyxt9]

especially considering the fact she is an English teacher, she could have worded her thoughts in a manner that would not have gotten her fired due to the racial provocation she evoked in her posts.

she chose instead to post in a racially charged fashion. if for no other reason, she deserved to be fired due to the stupidity of that alone.

 

[zyxt9]

Umm, what racism?

I'm not sure you understand what that word means.

BTW, back to this jab...

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/racist

hopefully this clears up what the word means so you may have a better understanding. while some of the synonyms would be more accurate, the fact is in society today the racist label gets applied over those synonyms well over 90% of the time in order to convey the desired picture in a more appealing manner. while it might happen once in awhile that someone will use words like bigot, prejudice, or other synonyms, they all boil down to the common denominator that someone is being labeled a racist when they are more precisely one of those other synonyms.

I wasn't making up a new rule when I made my post, I was following the standards set forth by people such as yourself time and time again who call out white people for their racially charged comments that were more accurately defined by synonyms for racist as opposed to the word itself.

 

[zyxt9]

For whatever reason, this thing disturbs me. This firing was stupid and dumb.

She used a racist term for black people, her own race, and a racist (I guess; I don't know if anybody's called me a cracker, but if somebody did I would just laugh) term about white people.

Your wife is right; stop tweeting/posting to facebook and everything else.

This teacher should get her job back, with the warning "stop with the social media, and leave the controversial 'funny' (ha ha) shit to professionals like Bill Maher."

sorry it has you worked up so much tinsel, but I can assure you that this woman's union has had meetings at a minimum once per year for the last 5 years that if they use social media they open themselves up to being easily terminated for posting anything that may even be perceived as putting a negative light on the board of ed. even if it is something completely taken out of context, or came across with a different "voice" than intended, because it is so easily traced back to the employer the employee is subject to disciplinary action up to and including termination. every business with contractual employees have something along this line written in the contract, and the employees are warned time and time again. whether it is arrogance, stupidity, under the influence of some sort of drugs or alcohol, or even if it is something posted by another person but is on your account, you are still accountable for what gets put onto your social media account and are subject to disciplinary action for such actions. that is why the unions strongly encourage their members to actually delete their accounts altogether and never post anything to social media using their true identity.

 

[tinselwolverine]

sorry it has you worked up so much tinsel, but I can assure you that this woman's union has had meetings at a minimum once per year for the last 5 years that if they use social media they open themselves up to being easily terminated for posting anything that may even be perceived as putting a negative light on the board of ed. even if it is something completely taken out of context, or came across with a different "voice" than intended, because it is so easily traced back to the employer the employee is subject to disciplinary action up to and including termination. every business with contractual employees have something along this line written in the contract, and the employees are warned time and time again. whether it is arrogance, stupidity, under the influence of some sort of drugs or alcohol, or even if it is something posted by another person but is on your account, you are still accountable for what gets put onto your social media account and are subject to disciplinary action for such actions. that is why the unions strongly encourage their members to actually delete their accounts altogether and never post anything to social media using their true identity.

Sure.

What she did was stupid and dumb too.

But I'm gonna call the school board tomorrow morning and tell them..."hey...give her another chance to be an English teacher...and to stop pretending that she's Bill Maher..."

Because I just think it's the right thing to do...

 

[Thumb]

I think zyxt is trying harder to convince himself than he is anyone else.

You can call someone "nigga" or "cracker" without actually being a racist. Like I said, you have no idea what the word racism really means.

But thanks for making this important thread to let us all know how Racism is alive and well in Texas. I'll sleep better knowing you're on the job.

 

[zyxt9]

Sure.

What she did was stupid and dumb too.

But I'm gonna call the school board tomorrow morning and tell them..."hey...give her another chance to be an English teacher...and to stop pretending that she's Bill Maher..."

Because I just think it's the right thing to do...

Oh I don't have an issue with you trying, just pointing out that precedent has been set throughout the working world pretty much without exception (well, discounting entertainment and sports, but we all know those working relationships are not like "real world" working relationships).

Personally I would like to think Freedom of Speech would still mean something these days, but organizations also have he freedom to fire employees for what they determine to be just cause. Can someone sue to get their job back? Sure...but has anyone done it and gone on to have a successful career where management and fellow employees are still able to treat them fairly and equally? That's the other side to her getting her job back, how fairly will she be treated.

Throw in the fact she is an English teacher and you can only imagine the challenges that will result with students and parents arguing that if SHE can use that language then so can they, and they would have a legit case, no? A's for everybody!!!

 

[Gulo Blue]

:hmm:

Just agreeing that racism is alive and well, but I wouldn't point to a racial slur if I was trying to convince someone that it's a big deal.

 

[zyxt9]

I think zyxt is trying harder to convince himself than he is anyone else.

You can call someone "nigga" or "cracker" without actually being a racist. Like I said, you have no idea what the word racism really means.

But thanks for making this important thread to let us all know how Racism is alive and well in Texas. I'll sleep better knowing you're on the job.

LMFAO...really? I would LOVE to see a normal white person walk into East New York and call someone "nigga". What do you think would happen????? Or an AA go into a place like Little Italy (granted, not much of that is left, but you get my point) and call someone a "cracka". Please tell me how long you think peace will last in those situations?

You are so full of BS and trying to backpedal out of this while I'm backing up my statements with documents and facts. Go ahead though, keep trying.

And stop acting like my thread title isn't something you or champ wouldn't put up if it had been a "redneck" spouting off some racial BS like this lady did. It would be a race between the two of you to see who could put up a post about how racism is alive and well in Texas and complain about all the white people who are racist and keeping the black people downtrodden.

No, not saying those idiots don't deserve to be called out, they do. Affirmative Action should no longer be needed, but it is because of those assholes. But stop pretending that racism by all races doesn't exist. If you are against racism, then fucking stand up and be against racism in every form.

Oh, but it is comedy when racism is done against whites or a person of one race does it against their own race, right? It doesn't hurt anyone, doesn't perpetuate hatred between the races or anything like that, not to mention continue to divide instead of unite. Nope! It's just funny!!! HAHAHAHA... *rolls eyes*

 

[zyxt9]

Just agreeing that racism is alive and well, but I wouldn't point to a racial slur if I was trying to convince someone that it's a big deal.

Why not? Thumb and Champ do it all the time.

Not denying that when they are calling someone out, there is usually a legit issue. My argument is they were probably chomping at the bit right up until they realized the lady is black, then it was "oh, that's no big deal...it's actually funny...she shouldn't have been fired".

 

[Michchamp]

Why not? Thumb and Champ do it all the time.

Not denying that when they are calling someone out, there is usually a legit issue. My argument is they were probably chomping at the bit right up until they realized the lady is black, then it was "oh, that's no big deal...it's actually funny...she shouldn't have been fired".

Chomping at the bit? I didn't even know she existed until you pulled her story out of god-knows-what corner of the Republican Internet.

I don't really even care about her, I just think your whole Rush-Limbaugh-routine of "The victims of racism are the REAL RACISTS here" is amusing. That's all.

 

[Gulo Blue]

Why not? Thumb and Champ do it all the time.

Not denying that when they are calling someone out, there is usually a legit issue. My argument is they were probably chomping at the bit right up until they realized the lady is black, then it was "oh, that's no big deal...it's actually funny...she shouldn't have been fired".

I'm just talking about priorities. This is the small part of it that happens to be sensationalist. This is people freaking out over the handful of negative reactions to vaccines while saying nothing of cardiovascular disease.

 

[tinselwolverine]

Anyway, I just called the district, and told them I thought they went too far in the firing. The person I talked thanked me, and said "I have notated it..."

 

[Gulo Blue]

Anyway, I just called the district, and told them I thought they went too far in the firing. The person I talked thanked me, and said "I have notated it..."

Did you mention you were in Glee Club? Your statement may have carried more weight.

 

[tinselwolverine]

Did you mention you were in Glee Club? Your statement may have carried more weight.

No, but I did mention that I had been a homeowner in the area for a number of years until about a year and a half ago...

 

[Thumb]

You are so full of BS and trying to backpedal out of this while I'm backing up my statements with documents and facts. Go ahead though, keep trying.

:lmao:

You linked to thefreedictionary.com as your documents and facts, so allow me to use the proper retort; AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Or there was your hypothetical about walking around East New York or Little Italy. :cheers:

Yes, you truly have me backpedaling. Meanwhile in a thread 4 pages (10 posts per format) you have not had 1 single person agree with your definitions of Racism alive and well in Texas. :nuts:

 

[Spartanmack]

no, YOU do not grasp the FACT that this person has been fired for making racist comments.

Finally we are seeing enlightened people recognize racism is not solely a Caucasian prejudice, but is something every race must strive to stop using to demean and belittle another race. Racism is no longer being looked at as one-sided, which is great news... for only through every race accepting as equals each and every other race can we finally remove racial definitions and all become members of the only race that matters, Human.

Part of the problem is Thumb doesn't know the difference between racism and discrimination. That tweet is unmistakably racist. There is no question about that. And while the racial aspect of it is dominating the conversation, she also told people who disagree with her to "kill themselves" - an indefensible and totally inappropriate statement. That probably had as much to do w/ her being fired as the racial slur but that's being ignored by the media because all anyone wants to talk about is race.

 

[Michchamp]

Part of the problem is Thumb doesn't know the difference between racism and discrimination. That tweet is unmistakably racist. There is no question about that. And while the racial aspect of it is dominating the conversation, she also told people who disagree with her to "kill themselves" - an indefensible and totally inappropriate statement. That probably had as much to do w/ her being fired as the racial slur but that's being ignored by the media because all anyone wants to talk about is race.

Kill yourself.

 

[Spartanmack]

Kill yourself.

chump at his best. you are one pathetic loser.