SI ranks all 32 starting QB's. Stafford ranked.......

[dubbsco]

And you know he's sitting behind his keyboard right now laughing it up because he knows he's getting this board stirred up.

 

[boogerlovejoy]

Yep.

I used to get so pissed.....but once I accepted the fact that he's either a troll or wears a helmet 24/7.....I got over it. Usually, I don't ever respond to him. Sometimes, though, it's too hard to resist.

3 more weeks!!!!

 

[sggatecl]

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LKP strikes me as a guy who has never put on shoulder pads under anything but a dress. His film breakdown is pathetic.

Extremely. Fucking. Pathetic.

Just another way to troll!

Since you are the OP of this entire thread, I humbly request you change the title to "LKP's Trolling Shit Show" or something similar.

 

[boogerlovejoy]

Since you are the OP of this entire thread, I humbly request you change the title to "LKP's Trolling Shit Show" or something similar.

To be honest, couldn't we change EVERY thread title to that?

Every once in a while it would have to be "Hughes's Debby Downer Show".......but 99% would be about LKP.

 

[LKP]

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LKP strikes me as a guy who has never put on shoulder pads under anything but a dress. His film breakdown is pathetic.

Extremely. Fucking. Pathetic.

Just another way to troll!

I told you exactly what happened. Brewer, dalton and everyone who commented are blind. Ebron was the first read. Calvin was doubled. It's a fact.

 

[LKP]

Stafford overall is good. Accept it.

Your breakdowns are terrible. And they prove nothing. It's a handful of plays and you are dead wrong about what even happened. You know nothing about progression, pass rush. You can't even tell me who is being doubled.

Stafford did nothing wrong on the one. The other was a TD pass.

Another big year from Stafford upcoming. 5,000 yards 38 TDs and 12 ints. Can't wait.

 

[boogerlovejoy]

I told you exactly what happened. Brewer, dalton and everyone who commented are blind. Ebron was the first read. Calvin was doubled. It's a fact.

Nah, dude......you're wrong. But it's ok little guy, I'm sure you're used to that.

Troll on!!!!!!!

 

[dubbsco]

I think the majority of people here agree with you that Stafford is "good." I do as well. I think he's a good QB, sometimes bordering on very good. But that's not what you need to win in the NFL. You need someone who is in that top tier, or at the very least can step up when his team needs him the most. If you are satisfied with a guy who has numbers built on throwing a TON, that's fine. His TD/INT ratio is average, and his completion percentage is average. He can't hide from those.

 

[LKP]

Nah, dude......you're wrong. But it's ok little guy, I'm sure you're used to that.

Troll on!!!!!!!

I've never been wrong.

Not trolling. Vehemently disagreeing with the stupidity from so many on this forum.

 

[LKP]

I think the majority of people here agree with you that Stafford is "good." I do as well. I think he's a good QB, sometimes bordering on very good. But that's not what you need to win in the NFL. You need someone who is in that top tier, or at the very least can step up when his team needs him the most.

Stafford hasn't done that.

Stafford is top tier no matter what the stats say.

Year 2 of the system, plenty of weapons finally (hope they stay healthy unlike 2012/2013). Average run game at least and good protection. QBs need this. Especially ones who aren't very mobile.

The pieces have come together to show that Stafford is truly elite. Better situation than 2011 currently.

 

[dubbsco]

I'm confused. Sometimes you use stats to back your arguments. Other times you say "stats don't matter." You really need to pick a side of the coin.

Well, you have pretty much given yourself zero outs. The pieces are together. If Stafford doesn't show he's elite this season, time to move on.

 

[boogerlovejoy]

I think the majority of people here agree with you that Stafford is "good." I do as well. I think he's a good QB, sometimes bordering on very good. But that's not what you need to win in the NFL. You need someone who is in that top tier, or at the very least can step up when his team needs him the most. If you are satisfied with a guy who has numbers built on throwing a TON, that's fine. His TD/INT ratio is average, and his completion percentage is average. He can't hide from those.

I agree with this 100%.

My opinion on Stafford is that he can still make the "jump" to top tier QB. Will he? I think so. But I'm not going to bet my house on it. He certainly has the physical tools to be elite. I think he is just under Rodgers in terms of physical tools.

I think 2014 was the first time in his pro career......maybe ever......that he had actual coaching on his mechanics/preparation/pocket awareness/footwork. I think he got by on talent alone before that. Schwartz?? No. Mark Richt? Maybe. I think Richt got him to a level that he was the #1 overall pick.....but after that......NOTHING. That's just my opinion. I know not everyone shares it.

I hope he proves me right. But, if the next 16-32 games of his career aren't showing progress toward that elite level.....time to let go.

I think a pretty big year is in store for #9. (crossing fingers)

 

[LKP]

I'm confused. Sometimes you use stats to back your arguments. Other times you say "stats don't matter." You really need to pick a side of the coin.

Well, you have pretty much given yourself zero outs. The pieces are together. If Stafford doesn't show he's elite this season, time to move on.

He's already shown it. They won't be moving on. And health is always a big factor.

But with normal health, Stafford should have a great year. And in year 2 he could probably deal with some injuries. Guys like Lucas in year 2, Laken or Man Ram backing up guard/center, Abdullah/Riddick are nicely in place now. Tate has stepped up for Calvin in the past. Ebron year 2 should be great. Looking forward to seeing more Lance Moore too over Ross 2014. More depth here too now.

 

[LKP]

The defense took a step forward with Slay, Mathis and Quin healthy in 2014. Slay and Ansah development. Even with Tulloch and Fairly and nickel injuries.

The coaching is there. The systems are firmly in place on both sides of the ball. There is better depth finally.

Big years from the offense and defense. Love this roster.

 

[inkfreq]

Stafford... well...

My opinion is he is better than people think he is, but not as good as people hope he will be.

 

[everyoneneedsasmil]

I agree with this 100%.

My opinion on Stafford is that he can still make the "jump" to top tier QB. Will he? I think so. But I'm not going to bet my house on it. He certainly has the physical tools to be elite. I think he is just under Rodgers in terms of physical tools.

I think 2014 was the first time in his pro career......maybe ever......that he had actual coaching on his mechanics/preparation/pocket awareness/footwork. I think he got by on talent alone before that. Schwartz?? No. Mark Richt? Maybe. I think Richt got him to a level that he was the #1 overall pick.....but after that......NOTHING. That's just my opinion. I know not everyone shares it.

I hope he proves me right. But, if the next 16-32 games of his career aren't showing progress toward that elite level.....time to let go.

I think a pretty big year is in store for #9. (crossing fingers)

Don't be hasty, though. Even if Stafford doesn't show that he'll be an elite QB, that's hardly reason to just throw him away. The team is good enough now that we shouldn't be picking high in the draft even if Stafford has a down year (see 2014). It's not like there is a better option walking through the door anytime soon. We could spend a first round pick and still get stuck with the next Johnny Manziel or Geno Smith.

Being good but not great is a very workable situation, and could get a lot worse. If the team actually thinks they might move on soon, they better draft someone to develop. And even then, a rookie probably wouldn't be better for a couple years at least.

 

[brewer229]

Don't be hasty, though. Even if Stafford doesn't show that he'll be an elite QB, that's hardly reason to just throw him away. The team is good enough now that we shouldn't be picking high in the draft even if Stafford has a down year (see 2014). It's not like there is a better option walking through the door anytime soon. We could spend a first round pick and still get stuck with the next Johnny Manziel or Geno Smith.

Being good but not great is a very workable situation, and could get a lot worse. If the team actually thinks they might move on soon, they better draft someone to develop. And even then, a rookie probably wouldn't be better for a couple years at least.

you could also get a Rodgers, big Ben, Brady, Wilson, or another QB with those picks. Next year's draft class is loaded with talent if staff doesn't perform this year it is time to look another directions. Making the playoffs every few years and being 1 and done is not good enough.
Having the most inconsistent QB in the league is not a good thing

 

[dubbsco]

Mil, when would they move on from him? If he doesn't prove himself after year 7, isn't it about time to start considering other options?? He's been with this team long enough to start taking them to the next level of the NFL. So far, he hasn't. They've been better, that's for sure. But I would argue the Lions would have had basically the same exact performance during Stafford's reign with any mid to slightly upper tier QB.

And I would disagree with the being good is a workable situation. It's not. He needs to be great. Other that the occasional blip in the radar, successful playoffs team have elite QBs.

 

[jdeb]

We don't need to look for Stafford's replacement until 2018 and my guess is he will get extended again. He will be only 29. Financially, it may be wise to look at the draft but chances are slim the Lions would have a high enough pick to nab a stud QB in 2017 or 18.

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[dubbsco]

Jdeb, it doesn't have to be a top 10 pick. How about using a 2nd/3rd rounder on a QB and begin the process of grooming him next year? It's not like Mayhew can draft in the 2nd round anyways, what's the difference?

And even if Stafford does emerge, you then have a great backup/future trade bait.