Stafford gone to rams

[dtroitlionsfan951]

The lions need to draft better case closed. All around the board. Still need weapons, just as much as we need defense.

 

[LKP]

WR wasn't a need. It has been handled well the past 7 seasons via free agency and Golladay

But now it is a big need due to expiring contracts and not wanting to pay Golladay huge money. We'll see what they do in FA before the draft too.

 

[zyxt9]

Once again, if the weapons are busts. They aren't really weapons. I wouldn't call Ryan Broyles, Ameer Abdullah, and unfortunately now due to injury Kerryon Johnson, or Eric Ebron as weapons.

To what degree did they not find success due to Matt not being a good game manager?

Ebron seems to be doing pretty well these days. Pretty sure Brady would have destroyed teams with those same "busts".

How many RBs failed because Matt could not properly check out of a run based on the D formation? How many times should Matt have checked to a run and out of a pass?

How many drops were due to him slinging the ball too hard and not having enough touch?

How many times did he not read coverage correctly and find the correct receiver? How many times did he not audible to different routes based on the coverage he saw pre-snap?

These are things a good game manager is able to do. They do not put everything on the ability of their arm, they setup other players to be as good as they can be, allowing the TEAM to win the game. Stafford always put it on his arm to win games.

 

[zyxt9]

Also, regarding Stafford not having weapons...how did he throw for over 5,000 yards if he did not have weapons??? How did he throw himself into the Lions record books if he did not have weapons???

Stafford had weapons, he just never used them properly.

 

[zyxt9]

Stafford had arguably the greatest WR weapon ever in CJ. CJ was so frustrated he retired early. Ever stop to think CJ retired early out of frustration in knowing Stafford would continue to abuse him? How many bad throws did Stafford make that lead to CJ being injured? CJ couldn't trust Stafford to "throw him open"...Stafford would throw it to areas where CJ would get crushed by DBs or jump balls that expose WRs to injury too.

 

[LKP]

LOL Stafford is a good QB who had a bad team with no support. Blaming run game on Stafford is absolutely comical. Especially since our opponents never stacked the box on us.

Goff is a average QB (potential to be good) who had good support for 2 years with 100 QB ratings then it waned and he got worse with turnovers as his run game went. And 2020 he got a ton of support but he didn't do enough with it, though they did win still as Goff did make some plays.

Goff needs a turnover fix like Stafford had with Caldwell

 

[dtroitlionsfan951]

To what degree did they not find success due to Matt not being a good game manager?

Ebron seems to be doing pretty well these days. Pretty sure Brady would have destroyed teams with those same "busts".

How many RBs failed because Matt could not properly check out of a run based on the D formation? How many times should Matt have checked to a run and out of a pass?

How many drops were due to him slinging the ball too hard and not having enough touch?

How many times did he not read coverage correctly and find the correct receiver? How many times did he not audible to different routes based on the coverage he saw pre-snap?

These are things a good game manager is able to do. They do not put everything on the ability of their arm, they setup other players to be as good as they can be, allowing the TEAM to win the game. Stafford always put it on his arm to win games.

Lol my favorite quote by lions fans... ?pretty sure Tom Brady would have been fine, pretty sure Aaron Rodgers would be great?. Nooooo fucking shit. Is that the standard Matt had to live up to? Then no wonder you were disappointed. It?s like bitching that Kenny Golladay (when healthy) isn?t Calvin Johnson so he sucks. I compare Matt to just about every other QB in the league. When they have success is when they have a lot of help! Jesus, you are spouting off without even knowing the answers to your own questions btw. So you?re just baselessly assuming that Matt didn?t know how to do any of what you were asking. I?d take a guess it?s because his team around him is trash. I?ll explain to you in one major way why I?m right and you?re a dipshit. Because we have witnessed a lot of these ?game managers? that you?re referring to that have winning records go down with injury. And their team records have barely moved. When Matt has gone done with injury, we haven?t had a shot to win a game. We were like 0- whatever. When Matt has been injured. That alone proves his impact and talent and how great his talent around him was.

 

[zyxt9]

Lol my favorite quote by lions fans... ?pretty sure Tom Brady would have been fine, pretty sure Aaron Rodgers would be great?. Nooooo fucking shit. Is that the standard Matt had to live up to? Then no wonder you were disappointed. It?s like bitching that Kenny Golladay (when healthy) isn?t Calvin Johnson so he sucks. I compare Matt to just about every other QB in the league. When they have success is when they have a lot of help! Jesus, you are spouting off without even knowing the answers to your own questions btw. So you?re just baselessly assuming that Matt didn?t know how to do any of what you were asking. I?d take a guess it?s because his team around him is trash. I?ll explain to you in one major way why I?m right and you?re a dipshit. Because we have witnessed a lot of these ?game managers? that you?re referring to that have winning records go down with injury. And their team records have barely moved. When Matt has gone done with injury, we haven?t had a shot to win a game. We were like 0- whatever. When Matt has been injured. That alone proves his impact and talent and how great his talent around him was.

I'm a dipshit? You obviously have lost this argument already by calling me that.

I'm willing to wait and see how it all plays out. I'm willing to give Goff the benefit of the doubt. I'm willing to see if Stafford succeeds with the Rams, or continues to just Suck Seed.

0-3 vs 2-2 in playoffs...but you would rather take the 0-3 QB...to each their own.

 

[zyxt9]

Lol my favorite quote by lions fans... ?pretty sure Tom Brady would have been fine, pretty sure Aaron Rodgers would be great?. Nooooo fucking shit. Is that the standard Matt had to live up to? Then no wonder you were disappointed. It?s like bitching that Kenny Golladay (when healthy) isn?t Calvin Johnson so he sucks. I compare Matt to just about every other QB in the league. When they have success is when they have a lot of help! Jesus, you are spouting off without even knowing the answers to your own questions btw. So you?re just baselessly assuming that Matt didn?t know how to do any of what you were asking. I?d take a guess it?s because his team around him is trash. I?ll explain to you in one major way why I?m right and you?re a dipshit. Because we have witnessed a lot of these ?game managers? that you?re referring to that have winning records go down with injury. And their team records have barely moved. When Matt has gone done with injury, we haven?t had a shot to win a game. We were like 0- whatever. When Matt has been injured. That alone proves his impact and talent and how great his talent around him was.

Furthermore...those Lions backups would be lucky to have been 3rd string QBs on other teams...likely not even on another team's Practice Squad. Goff is a proven winner, 2nd most wins in last 4 years behind only Brady...but you are acting like he is worse than the Lions 2nd string QBs.

Stafford only managed to win enough to get to the playoffs 3 times in 12 years. Goff went to playoffs 2 times in 4 years...and won 2 playoff games and made it to a Super Bowl.

Stafford had plenty of weapons to get to the playoffs more often...and actually win when there.

You don't like my analysis, too bad so sad. Calling me a dipshit? No call for that. Seriously. Grow up. I have my opinion, you do not have to agree with it...but that nonsense is uncalled for. Neither you nor I control anything that happens with the Lions, save the name calling for those who have consistently lead the team to losing games. Gee, that would include Stafford...right?

 

[LKP]

I'm a dipshit? You obviously have lost this argument already by calling me that.

I'm willing to wait and see how it all plays out. I'm willing to give Goff the benefit of the doubt. I'm willing to see if Stafford succeeds with the Rams, or continues to just Suck Seed.

0-3 vs 2-2 in playoffs...but you would rather take the 0-3 QB...to each their own.

The Rams would and give picks for it.

 

[zyxt9]

The Rams would and give picks for it.

And in 3 years their team will be crap while the Lions will be vastly improved.

 

[mhughes0021]

LOL Stafford is a good QB who had a bad team with no support. Blaming run game on Stafford is absolutely comical. Especially since our opponents never stacked the box on us.

Goff is a average QB (potential to be good) who had good support for 2 years with 100 QB ratings then it waned and he got worse with turnovers as his run game went. And 2020 he got a ton of support but he didn't do enough with it, though they did win still as Goff did make some plays.

Goff needs a turnover fix like Stafford had with Caldwell

Stafford had several opportunities throughout his 12 year career to shine. #2 defense in the league...he couldnt win. Rodgers injured for the year....Flynn beats him. HOF Calvin Johnson couldnt wait to retire to get away from him. Always an excuse...means youre simply not good.

This trade was terrible for both teams. Rams mortgaged their future on a top 15 guy. Lions put their rebuild on hold by taking on a vet QB under a new $25 mil/yr contract and are now in cap hell with a team that has no talent, no ability to sign anyone and no draft picks this year lol. This is honestly one of the dumbest things ive ever seen 2 GMs do.

 

[LKP]

Stafford had several opportunities throughout his 12 year career to shine. #2 defense in the league...he couldnt win. Rodgers injured for the year....Flynn beats him. HOF Calvin Johnson couldnt wait to retire to get away from him. Always an excuse...means youre simply not good.

This trade was terrible for both teams. Rams mortgaged their future on a top 15 guy. Lions put their rebuild on hold by taking on a vet QB under a new $25 mil/yr contract and are now in cap hell with a team that has no talent, no ability to sign anyone and no draft picks this year lol. This is honestly one of the dumbest things ive ever seen 2 GMs do.

Stafford didn't lose to Flynn in 2013. They crushed the Packers 40-10 on Thanksgiving. Lots of those turnovers during that melt was not his fault especially Giants and Bucs games. Plus the Snow Bowl loss.

Lions went 11-5 with the number 2 defense. They didn't win in playoffs because the refs allowed that number 2 defense to be held like crazy and are picking up flags for no reason. 24 points given up by that number 2 defense because of it

Calvin retired due to injuries and other teams injuries. He loves Stafford. Stafford has done better without Calvin by the way too.

Stafford is good .Everyone knows he is good. All those teams offered good things for him. Rams and McVay (offensive genius in your eyes) love him

And of course you underatte Goff now that he is a Lion and give him zero chance before he has even played a snap. That is what you guys do

 

[Mitchrapp]

Stafford didn't lose to Flynn in 2013. They crushed the Packers 40-10 on Thanksgiving. Lots of those turnovers during that melt was not his fault especially Giants and Bucs games. Plus the Snow Bowl loss.

Lions went 11-5 with the number 2 defense. They didn't win in playoffs because the refs allowed that number 2 defense to be held like crazy and are picking up flags for no reason. 24 points given up by that number 2 defense because of it

Calvin retired due to injuries and other teams injuries. He loves Stafford. Stafford has done better without Calvin by the way too.

Stafford is good .Everyone knows he is good. All those teams offered good things for him. Rams and McVay (offensive genius in your eyes) love him

And of course you underatte Goff now that he is a Lion and give him zero chance before he has even played a snap. That is what you guys do

Go to the LA board please.

 

[LKP]

Go to the LA board please.

I can do both. I have two teams now.

We are in this for the long haul. You complete me

 

[Mitchrapp]

Where's their board? I need to tell them something

 

[byco42]

I can do both. I have two teams now.

No. The NFL proscribes dual-fan bases. You have to choose one or the other.

 

[Mitchrapp]

No. The NFL proscribes dual-fan bases. You have to choose one or the other.

If I'm not mistaken its reverse alphabetically.

 

[dtroitlionsfan951]

Stafford didn't lose to Flynn in 2013. They crushed the Packers 40-10 on Thanksgiving. Lots of those turnovers during that melt was not his fault especially Giants and Bucs games. Plus the Snow Bowl loss.

Lions went 11-5 with the number 2 defense. They didn't win in playoffs because the refs allowed that number 2 defense to be held like crazy and are picking up flags for no reason. 24 points given up by that number 2 defense because of it

Calvin retired due to injuries and other teams injuries. He loves Stafford. Stafford has done better without Calvin by the way too.

Stafford is good .Everyone knows he is good. All those teams offered good things for him. Rams and McVay (offensive genius in your eyes) love him

And of course you underatte Goff now that he is a Lion and give him zero chance before he has even played a snap. That is what you guys do

Goff is nothing more than a stop gap. He?s a low end league starter. Can be a game manager on a really good team, but that?s it.

 

[brewer229]

Goff had an absolutely trash year this year. His rating for this trash year was just a trade higher than Stafford's career number.

Still hoping Colts get desperate and throw us a 2nd rounder for.Goff.