Stafford's next!!!

[tomdalton22]

I've presented facts. I've done absolutely nothing to earn a ban. Maybe try to form your own points and debate.

I have plenty of support and reasoning for the Lions being a top 5 roster. Playoff team taking the next step forward. Revamped LB, CB, get Dline and RB health. This team can go far

your opinions are not facts

 

[LKP]

your opinions are not facts

I gave you facts using stats, game tape and grading systems. They create the correct fact based opinion

There is nothing to support the Lions having a current bottom 5 roster, middle tier roster or 6-10 roster.

 

[tomdalton22]

I gave you facts using stats, game tape and grading systems. They create the correct fact based opinion

There is nothing to support the Lions having a current bottom 5 roster, middle tier roster or 6-10 roster.

You do this every year. You base your OPINIONS on best case scenario for every position. Then when a few things go wrong you blame outside influences.

 

[LKP]

You do this every year. You base your OPINIONS on best case scenario for every position. Then when a few things go wrong you blame outside influences.

It's most probable case scenario. Everything I use as support is a fact. Lions made the playoffs last year. Injuries crushed the division and playoff run.

Got to be healthy at the right time in this league. Stafford finger, Abdullah, Riddick, Levy gimpy, Swanson, Reiff, Diggs, Slay hamstring, Ansah ankle. No team overcomes. Lions almost did and still made playoffs. Stafford, Slay, Swanson, Reiff injuries were the last straw. 9-4 before that and cruising despite a slow 1-3 start.

Brady bum finger trying to play in the playoffs and win a division, no Blount, Hightower gimpy, poor protection from OLine injuries, Malcom Butler bad hamstring, best pass rusher with bad ankle most of the year. Pats would not have won the Super Bowl

 

[mhughes0021]

It's most probable case scenario. Everything I use as support is a fact. Lions made the playoffs last year. Injuries crushed the division and playoff run.

Got to be healthy at the right time in this league. Stafford finger, Abdullah, Riddick, Levy gimpy, Swanson, Reiff, Diggs, Slay hamstring, Ansah ankle. No team overcomes. Lions almost did and still made playoffs. Stafford, Slay, Swanson, Reiff injuries were the last straw. 9-4 before that and cruising despite a slow 1-3 start.

Brady bum finger trying to play in the playoffs and win a division, no Blount, Hightower gimpy, poor protection from OLine injuries, Malcom Butler bad hamstring, best pass rusher with bad ankle most of the year. Pats would not have won the Super Bowl

"Most probable" that never happen lol. You sound dumber than Brian Fontana talking about Sex Panther: "60% of the time it works everytime." Was it most probable that Ryan Broyles was going to be a breakout player like you said every year? Best was going to be anything more than a pile of mush? You do this every year for every position lol....and then make excuse after excuse when they suck.

By the way the patriots had all those things you listed...blount barely played, hightower was gimpy, pass pro was awful and they traded both their best pass rushers. Still won....no excuses.

 

[tomdalton22]

"Most probable" that never happen lol. You sound dumber than Brian Fontana talking about Sex Panther: "60% of the time it works everytime." Was it most probable that Ryan Broyles was going to be a breakout player like you said every year? Best was going to be anything more than a pile of mush? You do this every year for every position lol....and then make excuse after excuse when they suck.

By the way the patriots had all those things you listed...blount barely played, hightower was gimpy, pass pro was awful and they traded both their best pass rushers. Still won....no excuses.

didn't they trade away their starting LB and took a Lion cast off as well?

 

[LKP]

"Most probable" that never happen lol. You sound dumber than Brian Fontana talking about Sex Panther: "60% of the time it works everytime." Was it most probable that Ryan Broyles was going to be a breakout player like you said every year? Best was going to be anything more than a pile of mush? You do this every year for every position lol....and then make excuse after excuse when they suck.

By the way the patriots had all those things you listed...blount barely played, hightower was gimpy, pass pro was awful and they traded both their best pass rushers. Still won....no excuses.

Hightower was healthy most of the year, especially on the playoff run (barely on any injury reports). Higtower wasn't on the injury report after Week 5. Levy missed 11 games then was still a gimp because he had a worse injury.


Blount almost had 300 carries, Abdullah had 18. Brady was well protected. They got a high pick for Jones from the previous draft. Patriots were extremely healthy last year. Falcons too. Lions were hurt especially at playoff time.


Chandler Jones was traded prior to the 2016 draft. He was a move not someone they dumped mid-season. They turned Chandler into their starting LG in Joe Thuney and Malcolm Mitchell a WR who contributed and backup guard Jonathan Cooper. Trading Jones got them players not just picks they didn't use for 2016.


Collins still played a lot of the season for Pats while they built East lead and Trey Flowers was playing better. so they got a pick for him. Collins only had late 3rd round value. He wasn't a superstar for the Pats like Ansah is for Detroit. Plus Bills and Dolphins are joke compared to Green Bay and Vikings.

Collins played more games than Levy did for the Lions last year.

Hughes once again either caught in a lie or didn't observe very well.

Best and Broyles did have talent. Once again shows the bad luck with injuries. Two injuries for Broyles. Major injury for Best after he played great. Terrible luck

 

[tomdalton22]

Hightower was healthy most of the year. Blount almost had 300 carries. Brady was well protected. They got a high pick for Jones from the previous draft. Patriots were extremely healthy last year. Falcons too. Lions were hurt especially at playoff time.


Collins played more games than Levy did for the Lions last year.

NE was 14-2 with a +191 point differential.

ATL was 11-5 with a +134 point differential.

Det was 9-7 with a -12 point differential.

Those teams are on an entirely different level than the Lions.

 

[LKP]

didn't they trade away their starting LB and took a Lion cast off as well?

Didn't they have everyone pretty much healthy. yes the Patriots had everyone healthy. Flowers outplaying Collins. Collins was becoming a locker room cancer for a contract.

Pats were way healthier than Detroit, especially during playoff time. That is fact, not an opinion, a fact.

 

[LKP]

NE was 14-2 with a +191 point differential.

ATL was 11-5 with a +134 point differential.

Det was 9-7 with a -12 point differential.

Those teams are on an entirely different level than the Lions.

Those teams just happened to be much healthier than Detroit and played weaker competition.

 

[tomdalton22]

Those teams just happened to be much healthier than Detroit and played weaker competition.

http://www.espn.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/201479/2016-nfl-strength-of-schedule


ATL tied for 1st
NE 9th

DET tied for 27th

 

[LKP]

http://www.espn.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/201479/2016-nfl-strength-of-schedule


ATL tied for 1st
NE 9th

DET tied for 27th

Before the season. That changes after the season after the NFC East got good


3 teams in NFC West were garbage last year for Patriots to play and Pats played Seattle in NE (and lost). AFC East is garbage and at Miami had already clinched a playoff spot so had nothing to play for Week 17. They split with Buffalo. AFC North was garbage other than Pittsburgh. And Pats played Pittsburgh when Big Ben was hurt so got Landry Jones. Denver took a big step back last year with new QB. And Houston was garbage on the road last year.


Pats had the easiest schedule in the league in 2016.

 

[tomdalton22]

Before the season. That changes after the season after the NFC East got good


3 teams in NFC West were garbage last year for Patriots to play and Pats played Seattle in NE (and lost). AFC East is garbage and at Miami had already clinched a playoff spot so had nothing to play for Week 17. They split with Buffalo. AFC North was garbage other than Pittsburgh. And Pats played Pittsburgh when Big Ben was hurt so got Landry Jones. Denver took a big step back last year with new QB. And Houston was garbage on the road last year.


Pats had the easiest schedule in the league in 2016.

Yes, after the season...I looked at the wrong site.

Actually, Miami had the easiest. NE was second, Detroit was 5th & ATL was 9th.

Now look what those teams did with those easy schedules

NE was 14-2 with a +191 point differential.

ATL was 11-5 with a +134 point differential.

Det was 9-7 with a -12 point differential.

 

[LKP]

Yes, after the season...I looked at the wrong site.

Actually, Miami had the easiest. NE was second, Detroit was 5th & ATL was 9th.

Now look what those teams did with those easy schedules

NE was 14-2 with a +191 point differential.

ATL was 11-5 with a +134 point differential.

Det was 9-7 with a -12 point differential.

And Detroit had way more injuries. NE had the easiest schedule and were healthy. Houston sucks on road, Pit lost Bell like the first series and Big Ben wasn't healthy and then Falcons melted

Lions made the playoffs and were hurt when they needed to be healthy the most. The playoff run


http://powerrankingsguru.com/NFL/2016-NFL-strength-of-schedule/week-18.html


And Detroit had middle of pack schedule. Pats one of easiest. Post your site Dalton.

 

[mhughes0021]

Those teams just happened to be much healthier than Detroit and played weaker competition.

ah yes...even more excuses! lmao. such a turd.

 

[LKP]

ah yes...even more excuses! lmao. such a turd.

Detroit had a tougher schedule and more injuries. A lot more. Still made the playoffs. 2017 team is even better. Can't wait for the Super Bowl run

 

[mhughes0021]

Yes, after the season...I looked at the wrong site.

Actually, Miami had the easiest. NE was second, Detroit was 5th & ATL was 9th.

Now look what those teams did with those easy schedules

NE was 14-2 with a +191 point differential.

ATL was 11-5 with a +134 point differential.

Det was 9-7 with a -12 point differential.

dude its not about SoS. Its all about the hotness factor of when we play. Its just unlucky that detroit makes other teams HOT every single week with maddenesque completion percentages against our shitty ****ing defense. duh...facts.

 

[LKP]

dude its not about SoS. Its all about the hotness factor of when we play. Its just unlucky that detroit makes other teams HOT every single week with maddenesque completion percentages against our shitty ****ing defense. duh...facts.

Teams can play better at certain points of the year. like when the Pats played at Pit last year. And Big Ben didn't play. Maybe that changes the outcome


And the hotness factored is measured before the game against Detroit. Playing Detroit doesn't cause it. Please stop being dumb Hughes. I beg you

 

[mhughes0021]

Pats had the easiest schedule in the league in 2016.

maybe cause several of the teams play NE twice a year....ever think of that dingleberry?

 

[LKP]

maybe cause several of the teams play NE twice a year....ever think of that dingleberry?

No. It's because the Pats played a ton of garbage teams. Any tough team they happened to get at home (and lost to Sea and Buf). at Pit toughest game, Big Ben got hurt

Pats had any easy schedule and were very healthy. That gets you two home playoff games. Then Houston comes to town with no QB and sucks on the road. Then Pit comes to town and Leveon Bell dies


Brady hurt finger, no Blount and Hightower a gimp. No way they win Super Bowl.