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The Official Ohio* vs ][V][ichigan (End of Hoke Era) Game Thread

rumseyhouse77 said:
I agree with this. Mhughes is a troll douche that is looking to rope someone into an argument so that he can take pharases, etc. out of context in an attempt to keep you arguing. Best just not to respond to his drivel. Unless you want to kick his ass bamf, then by all means proceed.
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4800 posts and most of those calling out other people...whos the troll? lmao.
 
yup..it was totally the pieces around him that made DG run into a dlineman and not be able to hold onto the ball...ALL THE TIME! you guys are brilliant lol....
 
Denard was a great running back playing the QB position. He was a good QB.

Devin Gardner was not a good QB, period. Even if he had good pieces, the dude did not understand how to play the position at the collegiate level. He didn't value possessions, his mechanics were horrible, he locked onto WRs more often than not, and he has zero velocity on his throws. No one is slighting the kid because he is a great human being, but he did not succeed as a quarterback.
 
dubbsco said:
Denard was a great running back playing the QB position. He was a good QB.

Devin Gardner was not a good QB, period. Even if he had good pieces, the dude did not understand how to play the position at the collegiate level. He didn't value possessions, his mechanics were horrible, he locked onto WRs more often than not, and he has zero velocity on his throws. No one is slighting the kid because he is a great human being, but he did not succeed as a quarterback.
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i agree denard was a great runner of the football. That doesn't make you a good qb. Thank you for being the only one to actually give some support of their views instead of namecalling. "DENARD IS AWESOME RAWR...i just kicked your ASS RAWR"...was getting old.
 
"I KNOW MORE FOOTBALL THAN ANY OF YOU RAWR...BEST DAY BLAH BLAH BLAH RAWR"

..what a fucking douche lol
 
bamf_16 said:
"BLACK QBs RAWR...BAD QBs RAWR"

...yep.
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bamf...you've already lowered even your expectations of what this team is. I said denard lost to 3 mediocre teams....you fire back that they lost to #15 in the nation. If we cant consistently beat middle of the pack b1g teams....then there is no hope for this team moving forward.
 
mhughes0021 said:
i agree denard was a great runner of the football. That doesn't make you a good qb. Thank you for being the only one to actually give some support of their views instead of namecalling. "DENARD IS AWESOME RAWR...i just kicked your ASS RAWR"...was getting old.
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Denard Robinson was a good QB. He played a different game than you would like.

But somehow you can't articulate that point.

You lose all credibility when you try to argue "Fuck Denard" or that Denard wasn't a good QB.

All. Credibility.

And if we're going to find what's old, your act has been there for awhile.

Eat a dick, and move on.
 
mhughes0021 said:
bamf...you've already lowered even your expectations of what this team is. I said denard lost to 3 mediocre teams....you fire back that they lost to #15 in the nation. If we cant consistently beat middle of the pack b1g teams....then there is no hope for this team moving forward.
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When one political party was unable to completely discredit the leader of the other, they started playing with definitions.

Case in point, they changed the meaning of "hungry" to one missed meal in a 30 day period.

This way, they could take the definition of "hungry" from 4 years back and compare it with the new definition, and claim that "under the current leadership, children going to be 'hungry' has increased by 40%!"

What do you define as "mediocre?" You keep throwing out these interpretive terms like "bad", "mediocre", etc. then when you can't defend your point you try to mess with the interpretive nature of those terms.

Denard Robinson was not a "bad" quarterback, by just about any metric.

Top 20 teams in the nation are not "mediocre" teams, by just about any metric.

Keep trying.
 
bamf_16 said:
When one political party was unable to completely discredit the leader of the other, they started playing with definitions.

Case in point, they changed the meaning of "hungry" to one missed meal in a 30 day period.

This way, they could take the definition of "hungry" from 4 years back and compare it with the new definition, and claim that "under the current leadership, children going to be 'hungry' has increased by 40%!"

What do you define as "mediocre?" You keep throwing out these interpretive terms like "bad", "mediocre", etc. then when you can't defend your point you try to mess with the interpretive nature of those terms.

Denard Robinson was not a "bad" quarterback, by just about any metric.

Top 20 teams in the nation are not "mediocre" teams, by just about any metric.

Keep trying.
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we were 5-0 and in the top 10 if I can recall?....8 maybe? or that could have been a different year. So then theres 3 teams ranked lower than us. And I believe 1 ranked higher. And we were all in the same division. That's 5 b1G teams....now call me crazy....but those polls are stupid if they thought 5 teams not in the SEC should all be ranked in the top 20. So that's how I justify calling them mediocre b1g teams eventhough they were technically nationally ranked. If youre middle of the pack in the b1g youre typically a pretty average team.

And its not that I don't like the way denard and DG play....I like the running qb. I like that its a trend in the NCAA game. Heres the problem....Neither Borges or Nuss are good at running those offenses and then throw in a coach clamoring for "we have to get back to Michigan football." It was just all ass backwards....fundamentally the offense had no identity what so ever. And while im a fan of Michigan teams....im a fan of football first.....and the running qb in football on a whole is already starting to take their lumps. Kaep, Cam, rg3....their schtick is just about up. The running qb that can still manage a game and protect the ball...russel Wilson....he still has a chance at success.

The main thing I hated about denard/dg....that they were both turnover prone....they were both awful at protecting the ball and cost us ALOT of game solely because of that. Denard I also didn't like how fragile he was...I thought that put us in a bind in a lot of games. He came out WAY too often for minor nicks/bumps...that cant happen if youre the qb. Both of them had a propensity to over throw the ball....by a lot....accuracy was bad.
 
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Senior year he completed 8 passes a game, barely over 100 yards ad threw as many INT as TD. He wasn't good at throwing the ball..53% completion in college is pretty bad.
 
gobluebigjon said:
I feel sorry for you.
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me? im not the one chiming in bringing nothing to the conversation. Youre the idiot just jumping in where you obviously don't belong with your shity post count just to tell someone to eat a dick. go relax....pull on your dick a little bit...cause you obviously are too angry to be getting it from anywhere else...fucking fag.
 
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