Tigers vs. Royals September 16, 2020 Game 48

[kalinecountry]

Tigers Confirmed Lineup:
CF Victor Reyes S
SS Willi Castro S
DH M. Cabrera R
1B J. Candelario S
2B Niko Goodrum S
RF J. Bonifacio R
C Eric Haase R
LF T. Demeritte R
3B S. Alcantara S
P Tarik Skubal L

Royals Confirmed Lineup:
RF W. Merrifield R
SS A. Mondesi S
C S. Perez R
DH M. Franco R
1B H. Dozier R
LF E. Olivares R
3B Erick Mejia S
CF B. Starling R
2B Nicky Lopez L
P Brady Singer R

https://www.blessyouboys.com/2020/9...kie-titans-brady-singer-takes-on-tarik-skubal
Tigers vs. Royals Preview: Clash of the rookie Titans.
Two highly-touted pitching prospects take the mound opposite each other tonight in Detroit.
BYBTB

https://www.mlb.com/gameday/royals-...view,lock_state=preview,game_tab=,game=631463
Gameday.

 

[tomdalton22]

Candelario has been the lone bright spot on this team this season. Well, maybe Castro too.

All of the pitchers have been a disappointment. Miggy has been worse than I thought he was going to be. Oh well, only 3 more years, and $102M, and he will be gone. :clap:

 

[kalinecountry]

https://totallytigers.wordpress.com/2020/09/15/use-it-or-lose-it/
USE IT OR LOSE IT. Good Read.
Totally Tigers

Just because your GM invests in specific resources or tools is no guarantee that they will be used. And if they are, they may not be used properly.

And over the past year+, my thoughts have come back to this theory more and more when it concerns the Tigers and Analytics.

Are they actually using them?

And if they are using them, is everyone on board?

Are they using analytics effectively ? and correctly?

I have my doubts.

But before we get into all of that, let?s clear up a few misconceptions about analytics.

Just because you introduce them into your organization, doesn?t mean you are up to speed. It takes years to develop an advanced system. You can?t expect the Tigers, with a system that is barely 3 years old, to have the same level of performance or can compete with another team who has had them for over a decade.

There is no cookie cutter analytics system. Each team will develop and incorporate elements, tools, machines and software programs that are specific to their needs. The leaders in analytics invent. The followers adopt their methods several years down the road, playing catch up.

Each team?s analytics department has differing amounts of power and influence. Some simply exist, waiting to be used while others have significant power and the ability to dictate what manager and coaches will do.

An analytics system doesn?t always offer the best answers or solutions that fit the team?s talent. It?s all about the talent that is running this department and how correctly they see the development and goals of the team.

And just because a team has an analytics department is no guarantee that they will have the most updated research or solutions. Case in point is the Tigers use of the shift this year, boasting about their league-leading 55.5%. The problem is that the teams known to have the best analytics started getting away from the shift as a superior defensive tool 2 years ago.

So what do we know about the Tigers?

More in link...

 

[kalinecountry]

Tigers trail 2 - 0 after 5 completed innings.

 

[biggunsbob]

Shoot I was hoping for a 7 game winning streak to start with this series.

 

[biggunsbob]

Great article Ron. Shame the dumbasses in our organization will not use all the data that they could get their hands on. I am so tired of The Tigers hitting approach. The white Sox find and develop Hitters. The Indians find and develop hitters. The twins find and develop hitters. When will we start to. Develop hitters ? Hell CANDY had to go hire a hitting coach outside the organization. If this is true and he ends the season well he should start campaigning to get coaches fired. I sure hope we don’t ruin these too picks we have recently drafted.

 

[Mitchrapp]

2 hits tonight and by the same two guys that have been hitting.

 

[kalinecountry]

https://www.mlb.com/gameday/royals-...463#game_state=final,game_tab=box,game=631463
Boxscore.

https://www.mlb.com/tigers/news/tarik-skubal-8-strikeouts-against-royals
Skubal dazzles in Battle of the Rookies.
Tigers official site

https://www.blessyouboys.com/2020/9...ik-skubal-brady-singer-literally-zero-offense
Royals 4 - Tigers 0: Tarik Skubal was awesome, but this game was not.
Skubal struck out eight in six innings, but got no help from the Tigers offense.
BYBTB

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/s...oyals-quality-start-skubal-wasted/5817826002/
Tigers' offense stifled by Royals rookie, quality start by Tarik Skubal wasted.
Detnews

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/...e-tarik-skubal-kansas-city-royals/3475083001/
Tarik Skubal shines, but Detroit Tigers flummoxed by Royals rookie Brady Singer in 4-0 loss.
Freep

https://www.mlive.com/tigers/2020/0...se-sputters-in-loss-game-recap-box-score.html
Tarik Skubal pitches well, but Tigers' offense sputters in loss: Game recap, box score.
Mlive

 

[tomdalton22]

2 hits tonight and by the same two guys that have been hitting.

Candelario has been the lone bright spot on this team this season. Well, maybe Castro too.

right on cue

 

[Rebbiv]

https://www.baseball-reference.com/...=1&params=total|Last 28 days|DET|2020|bat|AB|

 

[tomdalton22]

https://www.baseball-reference.com/...=1&params=total|Last 28 days|DET|2020|bat|AB|

I guess Schoop has been playing well lately too.

Just 3 guys

 

[byco42]

https://www.baseball-reference.com/...=1&params=total|Last 28 days|DET|2020|bat|AB|

My List of "Concerns"

Teams K/BB of 3.79
Cabrera's PA/HR of 48/1 and 20 singles out of 25 hits. DH's are traditionally power hitters
Team PA/HR of 35/1
Austin Romine's 180-point drop in OPS in this time frame. And his PA/K of 2.17 or 46%.
Niko Goodrum's presence in the lineup in general. He makes Neifi Perez seems like Joe Morgan.

But I'm sure that "Gardy" is all over this, too.

 

[Rebbiv]

My List of "Concerns"

Teams K/BB of 3.79
Cabrera's PA/HR of 48/1 and 20 singles out of 25 hits. DH's are traditionally power hitters
Team PA/HR of 35/1
Austin Romine's 180-point drop in OPS in this time frame. And his PA/K of 2.17 or 46%.
Niko Goodrum's presence in the lineup in general. He makes Neifi Perez seems like Joe Morgan.

But I'm sure that "Gardy" is all over this, too.

Working counts and strike zone discipline has been the downfall of this team for quite some time. By no means would I imply drawing walks means you are a star. It means that making the opposing picture work, even if you aren't hitting, is valuable in a "team" construct. An offense that sees 6 opposing pitcher pitches, makes the DET starter go right back out there without a rest. I applaud Willi Castro when he is "hot". But when he will struggle, there won't be much to applaud. Romine would be a good example. He has reverted back to his career norm. While he started out "hot", he came back to earth.

PA/BB

Cron 4.7
Cabrera 8.3
Goodrum 9.4

AL AVG = 10.0


Candelario 11.9
Parades 13.2

Jones 14.9
Greiner 16.3
Stewart 18.2
Schoop 20.5
Bonifacio 21.7
Reyes 22.9
W. Castro 23.0
Romine 26.3

Cabrera cannot hit a slider or 4-seam fastball. While Cabrera shouldn't be a 3/4 hitter on most teams, there is not many options for the Tigers. Reyes as a leadoff hitter is contrary to any analytics.

 

[byco42]

Working counts and strike zone discipline has been the downfall of this team for quite some time. By no means would I imply drawing walks means you are a star. It means that making the opposing picture work, even if you aren't hitting, is valuable in a "team" construct. An offense that sees 6 opposing pitcher pitches, makes the DET starter go right back out there without a rest. I applaud Willi Castro when he is "hot". But when he will struggle, there won't be much to applaud. Romine would be a good example. He has reverted back to his career norm. While he started out "hot", he came back to earth.

PA/BB

Cron 4.7
Cabrera 8.3
Goodrum 9.4

AL AVG = 10.0


Candelario 11.9
Parades 13.2

Jones 14.9
Greiner 16.3
Stewart 18.2
Schoop 20.5
Bonifacio 21.7
Reyes 22.9
W. Castro 23.0
Romine 26.3

Cabrera cannot hit a slider or 4-seam fastball. While Cabrera shouldn't be a 3/4 hitter on most teams, there is not many options for the Tigers. Reyes as a leadoff hitter is contrary to any analytics.

Tigers team BB% is 6.9. Last in MLB

 

[tomdalton22]

PA/BB

Cron 4.7
Cabrera 8.3
Goodrum 9.4

AL AVG = 10.0


Candelario 11.9
Parades 13.2

Jones 14.9
Greiner 16.3
Stewart 18.2
Schoop 20.5
Bonifacio 21.7
Reyes 22.9
W. Castro 23.0
Romine 26.3

Cron's sample size is so small that he shouldn't be included. I'm sure that he would get close to his average which is about 17.4

Heck, with Tigers coaching, he would probably get close to 20

 

[kalinecountry]

https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/locked-on-tigers/e/77808904?autoplay=true
Locked On Detroit Tigers Podcast: Singer-ing His Praises. 19 minutes.

Episode Info:
Chris tips his cap to Brady Singer, who shut down the Tigers with a brilliant performance last night. He continues to express his frustration with the Tigers situation at catcher. In segment two, he previews tonight's exciting pitching matchup between Bieber and Mize.