UM vs TCU in the Sugarbowl

[mjsb2]

I know everyone says the BCS title game is set with LSU playing Alabama again even if they lose to Georgia today. It's hard enough giving credence to something that tells 1/2 of the Division I-A teams that they have no shot at the title before the season even begins, but to do that AND tell the 2nd and 3rd best teams in a conference that they get to play for the National Championship is a level of bullshit I'm not yet prepared to face.

So let's go LSU!

Even Georgia wins today, that doesn't make them the best team in the conference.

 

[Mitchrapp]

There are several conferences that combined get one BCS bid if one is at least top 16.

 

[icetime]

If Georgia beats LSU, they are in the Sugar and Michigan can wave goodbye to the BCS bowl hopes, esp now with Baylor whacking Texas (will bet at #17 they jump Michigan), even with 3 losses. Doesn't matter what happens in B1G Championship game now, Michigan will not make "top-14" (unfortunately, btw who made that rule?).

One last possible chance is later, if Okla can somehow get smoked by Okla St enough to drop 7 places - unlikely, but who knows what these computers are programmed for. Even then, we will need Mich St. to whack Wisky, another unlikely (i.e. Mich St. in a loss, unless monumental, won't fall below Michigan since they beat us, imho). The deck looks stacked.

Still, gotta hope...

 

[mjsb2]

State will absolutely fall below Michigan if they lose.

 

[bestisbest]

I dont see how a 3 loss Baylor jumps Michigan.

Also I at the rate things are going I dont see TCU getting into the top 16.

If Oklahoma loses were looking at Houston, Oklahoma, and Mich St./Wisc dropping below us

 

[blueandmazefla]

BestIsBest[/color]]I dont see how a 3 loss Baylor jumps Michigan.

Also I at the rate things are going I dont see TCU getting into the top 16.

If Oklahoma loses were looking at Houston, Oklahoma, and Mich St./Wisc dropping below us

TCU beat one ranked team when they played I can't even believe they are considered 2 spots behind us.

 

[bamf16]

BestIsBest[/color]]I dont see how a 3 loss Baylor jumps Michigan.

Also I at the rate things are going I dont see TCU getting into the top 16.

If Oklahoma loses were looking at Houston, Oklahoma, and Mich St./Wisc dropping below us

TCU beat one ranked team when they played I can't even believe they are considered 2 spots behind us.

They're the defending Rose Bowl champion. But you're right. They won at Boise, they lost at Baylor, but they also lost at home to SMU. If we're going to eliminate Oklahoma State because of a crappy loss at Iowa State, what is a home loss to a 7-5 (5-3 in CONFERENCE FUCKING USA) SMU?!

 

[icetime]

Baylor will jump us because they beat a 'ranked' Texas team (and wtf is Texas doing ranked at #22 when they have already lost *FOUR* games - that's only six spots behind Mich's ranking with TWO more losses + 1 more today). So it's like Baylor gets credit for beating a "ranked" team today, dammit.

I don't want this to happen, I just don't see how it will not.

 

[dannydiggler]

Baylor will jump us because they beat a 'ranked' Texas team (and wtf is Texas doing ranked at #22 when they have already lost *FOUR* games - that's only six spots behind Mich's ranking with TWO more losses + 1 more today). So it's like Baylor gets credit for beating a "ranked" team today, dammit.

I don't want this to happen, I just don't see how it will not.

Because its TEXAS. They make a lot more money when Texas is ranked.

 

[icetime]

Right. Prolly will cost Mack Brown his job too (if he's not retiring anyway). Looks like LSU is turning their 2nd-half magic, so maybe some relief - need some more.

I'm amped up for Sugar, 'cause I wanna go! New Orleans baby!!

 

[bestisbest]

Another question. Lets say Clemson beats VT, Would VT drop below us?

Also, I doubt Clemson would jump us in the ratings

 

[icetime]

BestIsBest[/color]]Another question. Lets say Clemson beats VT, Would VT drop below us?

Also, I doubt Clemson would jump us in the ratings

There is talk of this too. Clemson beating a #5 ranked team (Va Tech) would be impressive. Plus they beat them earlier in the year already. Enough to jump Michigan - it would be close, but again they would be another 3-loss team.

I think everyone's conventional thinking here is that if Georgia loses and we can jump the loser of the B1G Champ. game, then we're in. I am just worried, is all. We beat Ohio St last week and lost a spot. How? Wisky jumped us by beating a ranked team (Penn St) below us in the rankings. Sounds familiar.

I don't trust the computers. Sagarin has Mizzou ranked above Michigan even with 5-losses - his algorithm must put so much weight on strength-of-schedule we should come out shining "next year", but first things first.

 

[bamf16]

This just feels like 2006 all over again. I was at a birthday party the night UCLA beat USC and I drove home with my UM marching band CD playing in the car. I thought for sure we'd get the rematch with OSU. We lose to them and stay at #2 in the rankings. Then without playing drop in the polls because Urban Crier started his bullshit and Lloyd Carr wouldn't balls up and counter his attacks in the media. UF jumps us and it actually sucks to go play in the Rose Bowl.

I don't know. This just feels to me like 2006 all over again (but with slightly less severe implications) in feeling we'll get screwed by the polls.

 

[Mitchrapp]

One reason Baylor might pass UM is because of there SOS. Before today they were 5th best in the country and better than any other BCS team.

 

[wlvrnstlr4life]

Mitch[/color]]One reason Baylor might pass UM is because of there SOS. Before today they were 5th best in the country and better than any other BCS team.

I don't think so man. 3 losses.... and you give up 30 points or more 9 times(6x over 38 points). That would be a hard pill to swallow for us Michigan fans.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Mitch[/color]]One reason Baylor might pass UM is because of there SOS. Before today they were 5th best in the country and better than any other BCS team.

I don't think so man. 3 losses.... and you give up 30 points or more 9 times(6x over 38 points). That would be a hard pill to swallow for us Michigan fans.

I'm just saying. Not like a 2 loss team was ranked better than a 1 loss team or a 3 loss team being ahead of a 2 loss team before, it happens. They did play a hell of a schedule.

 

[wlvrnstlr4life]

Mitch[/color]]

I don't think so man. 3 losses.... and you give up 30 points or more 9 times(6x over 38 points). That would be a hard pill to swallow for us Michigan fans.

I'm just saying. Not like a 2 loss team was ranked better than a 1 loss team or a 3 loss team being ahead of a 2 loss team before, it happens. They did play a hell of a schedule.

I totally get you. This has been the weirdest year in memory. I really think USC not being eligible and Ohio* sucking is really throwing a wrench into the matchups. Whether you like them or not, it really is messing things up.

 

[tinselwolverine]

Yeah, it's all tripping me out...and this one site is now saying that because OK State rolled OK, it could be bad for Michigan, even though it might cause Michigan to climb over OK, because it could possibly put OK State into the BCS Title game, and knock Alabama into the Sugar Bowl, replacing Michigan.

What are ya gonna do, huh?

 

[dhichens24]

TinselWolverine[/color]]Yeah, it's all tripping me out...and this one site is now saying that because OK State rolled OK, it could be bad for Michigan, even though it might cause Michigan to climb over OK, because it could possibly put OK State into the BCS Title game, and knock Alabama into the Sugar Bowl, replacing Michigan.

What are ya gonna do, huh?

What they don't realize is that doesn't hurt Michigan at all. Michigan would just fill Oklahoma state's spot in the fiesta bowl and play Stanford. I'm 99.9% sure Michigan is in, but never can be 100% sure until the announcements are made.

 

[biggunsbob]

I really don't think it matters if Baylor passes us as long as we are in the top 14. No way a BCS venue takes Baylor over Michigan even if they have RG#... I mean the Cotton Bowl probably wants Baylor really bad..