Verlander traded to Houston, TJ Surgery, Wins 2 WS, Wins 3rd Cy Young, a Met, Astro again

[johnny2x2x]

Nice haul. Will really miss JV.

Perez, Cameron, and Rodgers in return.

 

[UMRules06]

He's been my Tiger since 2006. Will miss him and thanks for the memories JV.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Not as nicest it should of been. We didn't get any of their top 3 prospects..

 

[johnny2x2x]

Stros took on almost all of his contract. We shaved $160 Million in payroll today.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Stros took on almost all of his contract. We shaved $160 Million in payroll today.

They better not sign older vets for big contracts..

 

[Mitchrapp]

So with Sanchez hopefully released what's the rotation going to look like in 2018? It's going to be really really bad. This deal sucks.

 

[sggatecl]

So with Sanchez hopefully released what's the rotation going to look like in 2018? It's going to be really really bad. This deal sucks.

Were you hoping to get an MLB ready starter in return?

 

[Mitchrapp]

Were you hoping to get an MLB ready starter in return?

I was hoping to get a future ML in return.. Best is 48th prospect of baseball.. for JV? We got screwed.

 

[sggatecl]

I was hoping to get a future ML in return.. Best is 48th prospect of baseball.. for JV? We got screwed.

Fair enough. The wording made me assume otherwise.

I don't know much about the prospects, I really try to avoid the rankings. I could probably find sources that list that same prospect as somewhere in the top 30. Subjective stuff. Hopefully they pan out and JV gets his ring.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Fair enough. The wording made me assume otherwise.

I don't know much about the prospects, I really try to avoid the rankings. I could probably find sources that list that same prospect as somewhere in the top 30. Subjective stuff. Hopefully they pan out and JV gets his ring.

I hope so too.. I'm not a big fan of free agency / trade deadline. It would have been nice to have JV for the duration. It's been a long time since a player was drafted and retired a Detroit Tiger. I wanted to see him get more records in a Tigers' uniform.

 

[biggunsbob]

Man AA stinks. Prospect # 48 wtf. ? Money dump and 5 years of 90+ loss teams coming . He didn't get on top prospect for jv. Don't like the deal .

 

[gotime909]

Man AA stinks. Prospect # 48 wtf. ? Money dump and 5 years of 90+ loss teams coming . He didn't get on top prospect for jv. Don't like the deal .

You don't consider a top 50 prospect a top prospect?

 

[kalinecountry]

Fuck You Al Avila and Chris Ilitch!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Mitchrapp]

You don't consider a top 50 prospect a top prospect?

Not sure I do. Top ten yeah but 48 .. no. I mean it's JV. We got Fulmer in the Cespedes trade. And he was just a two month rental. I mean it's JV.

 

[kalinecountry]

Tigers are paying the Astros $8 million each of the next two seasons, $16 million total. Verlander makes $28 million in each of the next two seasons.

2 F'n cunts Al Avila and Chris Ilitch. Just cut out the collective hearts of a sizeable part of the Tigers fan base.

 

[Rebbiv]

Trading Upton and Verlander should absolutely get the Tigers under the payroll tax. If not...well....I am speechless.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Trading Upton and Verlander should absolutely get the Tigers under the payroll tax. If not...well....I am speechless.

Was that their primary focus? For a family who are billionaires what's a payroll tax to them.

 

[gotime909]

I'm happy for JV. We weren't gonna challenge for anything in the next couple years and I'm happy to see him go to a team that I don't hate and have that chance. We are in much better shape for a rebuild than we were 3 months ago. It sucked that the market just wasn't there for the JD trade, but these other 3 trade the return was acceptable imo.

 

[Mitchrapp]

I'm happy for JV. We weren't gonna challenge for anything in the next couple years and I'm happy to see him go to a team that I don't hate and have that chance. We are in much better shape for a rebuild than we were 3 months ago. It sucked that the market just wasn't there for the JD trade, but these other 3 trade the return was acceptable imo.

I'm happy for him, but I'm sad for me. Such a great player.

 

[Rebbiv]

Was that their primary focus? For a family who are billionaires what's a payroll tax to them.

The Tigers have been losing money for years. While they were/are losing money (and other teams are making millions), they are not putting it into infrastructure and player development. It all adds up. This contributes to the Tigers farm system being one of the worst, if not the worst.

People honestly think people who are rich can spend the money anyways. Most didn't get rich by making bad business decisions. While I am all for supporting my wife's business ventures, I am not going to jeopardize my retirement in the process. It is a fine line sometimes.

Now, based on what they originally had as a payroll going into 2017, DET was going to lose roughly $60 Mil (including the payroll tax). While they still are probably going to lose money in 2017, it is closer to break even mark. It's one thing to lose money and be in the hunt. Is another to lose $60 Mil for the 2nd worse team in the AL. Additionally, losing money effects franchise value.

Unfortunately, I haven't heard any updates on the DET TV deal. It cannot be good news. And these past 2 deals certainly don't help.