What is Mo Claiborne worth?

[kdp1980]

Sounds like his days are numbered in Dallas

http://m.espn.go.com/nfl/story?storyId=11578003

 

[cheeno]

Austin's done more with less.

 

[boogerlovejoy]

Was just about to post something similar. The owner publicly calls you out and all but calls you a bust. Coach won't say anything positive, either. Those aren't good signs.

He has been pretty bad since he was drafted. However, I would give him a look if it didn't cost us more than a 4th or 5th. I certainly wouldn't go any higher than that.

Not sure what his contract is either, but being a 6th overall has to put him in the 3M/ year range......which might be too expensive for us anyway.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Was just about to post something similar. The owner publicly calls you out and all but calls you a bust. Coach won't say anything positive, either. Those aren't good signs.

He has been pretty bad since he was drafted. However, I would give him a look if it didn't cost us more than a 4th or 5th. I certainly wouldn't go any higher than that.

Not sure what his contract is either, but being a 6th overall has to put him in the 3M/ year range......which might be too expensive for us anyway.

I wouldn't give a 4th or 5th if he's being called a bust by the owner even if said owner is a crack pot.

 

[tomdalton22]

well...according to Jerry Jones he definitely wasn't worth the #6 overall pick and a 2nd rounder!

 

[michiganalex]

jerry jones tends to over value players to start anyway. remember what we stole from him for Roy Williams?

 

[cheeno]

Jerrah

 

[tonyballs]

Give them a 5th and call it a day

 

[inkfreq]

I have a week old tuna fish sandwich they can have for him, and I am being generous.

BUT... we need breathing bodies, so make it happen. Fuck it.

 

[everyoneneedsasmil]

He's in his third year, has been garbage his first two years and garbage so far this year. I wouldn't offer anything for him. It's one thing to pick up retreads off the scrap heap because we don't have other options. It's another to trade for garbage in the vain hope that a player completely remakes his career. Him being the 6th overall pick in 2012 means nothing anymore. If it did, Trent Richardson wouldn't be such a train wreck.

 

[tonyballs]

He's in his third year, has been garbage his first two years and garbage so far this year. I wouldn't offer anything for him. It's one thing to pick up retreads off the scrap heap because we don't have other options. It's another to trade for garbage in the vain hope that a player completely remakes his career. Him being the 6th overall pick in 2012 means nothing anymore. If it did, Trent Richardson wouldn't be such a train wreck.

I agree up to a point. Giving up a 5th or a 6th is nothing though. Might be worth it. "Ones man trash is another mans treasure". Doesn't always end up that way, but sometimes worth it.

This aint happening anyways lol

 

[zyxt9]

I think it also comes down to whether Detroit's system is a better one for Mo's skillset. If it isn't, then don't even consider it.

 

[sggatecl]

Half a week later and nobody has made a joke about sending them our 2nd round pick because they'll just get injured anyways?? Color me disappointed.

 

[inkfreq]

Let's be real, we can't trade for him.

His cap number for this year and next is about $5 million. No way we're paying that for a guy playing at his level, and we don't have the cap space

I think we have (didn't look it up) less than 4 million in space now, so it would actually be impossible if that's correct, and if we have 4 working brain cells in our front office, impossible even if I'm not correct.

If the Cowboys cut him, then we can sign him cheaper. But trade? Not for a first rounder in his rookie deal, even after the rookie cap.

 

[mhughes0021]

Let's be real, we can't trade for him.

His cap number for this year and next is about $5 million. No way we're paying that for a guy playing at his level, and we don't have the cap space

I think we have (didn't look it up) less than 4 million in space now, so it would actually be impossible if that's correct, and if we have 4 working brain cells in our front office, impossible even if I'm not correct.

If the Cowboys cut him, then we can sign him cheaper. But trade? Not for a first rounder in his rookie deal, even after the rookie cap.

Doesnt the cowboys take some/most of the cap hit? I thought thats why we couldn't trade suh. Im asking seriously...dunno how that works.

 

[inkfreq]

Doesnt the cowboys take some/most of the cap hit? I thought thats why we couldn't trade suh. Im asking seriously...dunno how that works.

Without pretending to be a lawyer, I think Suh's problem is that the money was converted in order to defer it.

That hasn't happened with Claiborn, he's never restructured.

 

[inkfreq]

Without pretending to be a lawyer, I think Suh's problem is that the money was converted in order to defer it.

That hasn't happened with Claiborn, he's never restructured.

Let me just add to that, that I knew a guy two years ago who was a six month intern for the Brownies. He basically made coffee, ran files around, blah blah blah.. nothing even remotely exciting.

But he told me everytime he had to take a copy of the salary cap rules to someone in hard copy, it was about three times the size of War and Peace.

So that having been said, even if I was a lawyer, I am not sure I would understand all that well enough to say.

 

[schles192]

Doesnt the cowboys take some/most of the cap hit? I thought thats why we couldn't trade suh. Im asking seriously...dunno how that works.

Don't care enough to look it up but I think Dal would pick up the signing bonus and the trading team picks up the pro rated base.

 

[everyoneneedsasmil]

I don't know the accuracy of rotoworld, but that site claims Claiborne's base salary is 1.8 million this year and 2.6 million next year, fully guaranteed. Claiborne hasn't even played up to those numbers. Unless Claiborne is cut and we bring him in on the minimum, there's no value in trying to get him. Even if a 5th/6th round pick is generally of no value to begin with, Claiborne just hasn't shown any ability to play at the NFL level. Claiborne right now is negative value as a player. Maybe he can turn it around, but there's no point investing any pick plus guaranteed dollars in finding out.

 

[boogerlovejoy]

Don't care enough to look it up but I think Dal would pick up the signing bonus and the trading team picks up the pro rated base.

I believe this is the case......Dallas would be hit with any bonus immediately upon trading him.....so they would have to have the cap to handle that.

The team trading for Claiborne would only be responsible for his base salary.

I think.

Who knows.