Worst Anti-Science BS of 2017

[turok]

Don't see how denigrating Gore makes climate change anymore of a hoax. At best, he had just made far more people aware of it, and persuade more scientists study its causes and effects.

As far as so-called increase in total polar bear population, their estimations vary widely and wildly, b/c they are being counted in groups in remote and nearly inaccessible locations. So while one group could be estimated as an increase. another could be seen as stability maintained, and yet another as having decreased in number.

Under current estimates of further loss of sea ice under climate change studies, ~2/3rds could be gone by mid-century.

 

[Gulo Blue]

So he's NOT implying that? It's just the opening shot in the movie for no reason?

I agree there are a lot of reasons to consider the environment. You're arguing against a point I'm not making. I understand risk and calculating expected values but it's clear if you watch Al's movie, these aren't small probability risks - they're near certainties in his mind. If you don't think he's lying and he's just wrong, fine. I disagree and we can leave it at that.

I don't think a lot of the risks a small either, just covering the spectrum. There are so many things to be worried about with regard to our impact on the planet, and odds stacked on top of odds, X% chance the temperature will increase Y degrees and if that happens, Z% chance this region will dry up. But there's enough evidence that things are changing at unprecedented rates and we have changed the content of the atmosphere and the ocean to a measurable degree. All together, there's enough risk that we shouldn't have people cheering on Trump's beautiful clean coal talk or supporting environmental deregulation. I'm not claiming all regulation is good, but I haven't heard a good case yet. I've been dismissive of your $4T number because I don't know what it is and I'm assuming it's some scare tactic claim that's not really on the table, or a sum of many years of spending that includes a lot of spending that will happen anyway. I'm open to new information if that's not right.

I'm not giving Gore a pass for being manipulative and implying things, but what exactly he's implying is up for interpretation. You open with a shot of a flood and say, "we could be seeing more of this" or "we will be seeing more of this" or "is this due to global warming, you tell me?" - each way you do it is a different degree of misleading. I don't think we can really argue how misleading he's being without watching it. That's why I asked if he was actually wrong about anything. It puts a floor on things.

 

[sggatecl]

I'd say that's one thing we can all agree on, but someone would find a way to politicize it.

#AllAnimalsMatter #FelinePride #LoveYourPussycat

 

[turok]

 

[Spartanmack]

I don't think a lot of the risks a small either, just covering the spectrum. There are so many things to be worried about with regard to our impact on the planet, and odds stacked on top of odds, X% chance the temperature will increase Y degrees and if that happens, Z% chance this region will dry up. But there's enough evidence that things are changing at unprecedented rates and we have changed the content of the atmosphere and the ocean to a measurable degree. All together, there's enough risk that we shouldn't have people cheering on Trump's beautiful clean coal talk or supporting environmental deregulation. I'm not claiming all regulation is good, but I haven't heard a good case yet. I've been dismissive of your $4T number because I don't know what it is and I'm assuming it's some scare tactic claim that's not really on the table, or a sum of many years of spending that includes a lot of spending that will happen anyway. I'm open to new information if that's not right.

I'm not giving Gore a pass for being manipulative and implying things, but what exactly he's implying is up for interpretation. You open with a shot of a flood and say, "we could be seeing more of this" or "we will be seeing more of this" or "is this due to global warming, you tell me?" - each way you do it is a different degree of misleading. I don't think we can really argue how misleading he's being without watching it. That's why I asked if he was actually wrong about anything. It puts a floor on things.

misleading = lying.

degrees matter, but when you take all of the claims in totality, combined with the 0% accuracy rate on his predictions, his prescriptions for fixing it it's not hard to draw the conclusion that the guy is full of shit and peddling lies - particularly when he profits massively from it and his personal behavior so starkly contradicts his prescription for how the rest of us should live. If you don't think he's a charlatan, ok.

 

[Spartanmack]

Further proof that cats are assholes.

as if we needed more.

 

[Spartanmack]

I'd say that's one thing we can all agree on, but someone would find a way to politicize it.

Cats are Democrats. Everybody knows that.

 

[Gulo Blue]

Cats are Democrats. Everybody knows that.

There haven't been that many cats in the White House. Bush had one, Chelsea Clinton had one, Carter's daughter had one, Ford had one, Kennedy had one, Coolidge, Wilson...you have to go back to Teddy Roosevelt to find someone with 2 cats, but he also had a bear and a hyena. 7 cats in 100 years. 75 dogs in that same time frame. Since they list the bear and hyena, I'm assuming these weren't all at the White House.

 

[Gulo Blue]

I want to conclude that democrats are cats because it feels more correct. Both dogs and cats descend from pack hunters, and sharing a kill in clearly socialist. My impressions of cats in ancient Egypt makes me think they are more into theocraticmonarchies. I don't know...

 

[tinselwolverine]

Since they list the bear and hyena, I'm assuming these weren't all at the White House.

Apparently there has been a lot of wacky pets in the White House over the years...

 

[Spartanmack]

There haven't been that many cats in the White House. Bush had one, Chelsea Clinton had one, Carter's daughter had one, Ford had one, Kennedy had one, Coolidge, Wilson...you have to go back to Teddy Roosevelt to find someone with 2 cats, but he also had a bear and a hyena. 7 cats in 100 years. 75 dogs in that same time frame. Since they list the bear and hyena, I'm assuming these weren't all at the White House.

Bush and Ford can have cats but that doesn't mean they're not Democrats or is it Democats? see what I did there?

 

[Spartanmack]

I want to conclude that democrats are cats because it feels more correct. Both dogs and cats descend from pack hunters, and sharing a kill in clearly socialist. My impressions of cats in ancient Egypt makes me think they are more into theocraticmonarchies. I don't know...

That's why the tiger is by far my favorite cat.

 

[turok]

Cats are in general favored as pets by women, and dogs by men. I also don't see any political connection.

 

[tinselwolverine]

Cats are in general favored as pets by women, and dogs by men. I also don't see any political connection.

From the Pew Research Center.

The gender gap between men vs. women regarding voting is well known and documented. Chicks skew Democrat, dudes skew Republican. Ergo, it would follow that cats would lean towards Democrat, and dogs lean Republican.

Plus, while cats like to hunt alone, dogs tend to be involved more with hunting that involves the firearms of their owners.

So chalk up another one for dogs leaning Republican.

 

[turok]

Yeah...but 52% of women wound up voting for Trump.

Maybe Pew should be spelt Phew.

They deserve to grab their collective pussies in shame.

 

[tinselwolverine]

Yeah...but 52% of women wound up voting for Trump.

Where do you get that? This from Cornell University reports that women went to Clinton by a margin of 54 - 42 %; the results seem to come from CNN exit polling data.

 

[Gulo Blue]

If I had to say which was more dog like and which was more cat like, I'd sat the elephant is more dog like and the donkey is more cat like...at least in terms of behavior.

 

[tinselwolverine]

If I had to say which was more dog like and which was more cat like, I'd sat the elephant is more dog like and the donkey is more cat like...at least in terms of behavior.

Even though donkeys have pretty big ears, elephants ears are even bigger, as dogs ears are relative to cats.

Elephants have those big tusks, and dogs teeth are bigger that a cat's.

I think dogs and cats lick themselves about equally much, especially their own genitalia; I don't know who looks their own genitalia more between elephants and donkeys.

 

[turok]

CLINTON TRUMP
White men 31% 63%
White women 43 53
White women college graduates 51 45
White women non-college graduates 34 62
White men college graduates 39 54
White men non-college graduates 23 72

White women without college degrees chose Trump

Source: Edison Research Exit Polls

 

[tinselwolverine]

CLINTON TRUMP
White men 31% 63%
White women 43 53
White women college graduates 51 45
White women non-college graduates 34 62
White men college graduates 39 54
White men non-college graduates 23 72

White women without college degrees chose Trump

Source: Edison Research Exit Polls

I didn't know that only the votes of white people were counted.

That doesn't seem very fair.