Worst moves of Tom Lewand-Martin Mayhew era

[biggunsbob]

Worst moves of the Tom Lewand-Martin Mayhew era with the Detroit Lions"


http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf/2015/11/the_best_and_worst_moves_of_th.html#0

 

[biggunsbob]

On my computer I cannot see # 6 LOL I think it is EBron but not sure..

 

[biggunsbob]

In 2009, instead of using the pick from Dallas to grab Pettigrew, they could have selected Clay Matthews. In 2010, instead of moving back up into the end of the 1st round to grab a injury plagued Best, they could have selected Rob Gronkowski. Instead of picking Spivey, they could have selected Morgan Burnett or Emmanuel Sanders

In 2011, instead selecting a discipline-issue player in Titus Young, they could have selected Orlando Franklin OT.

In 2012, instead of selecting Broyles, they could have selected Peter Konz, Mike Adams T, or Casey Hayward.

Any other whiffs .. I just copied this from a guy in a comment section.. It is to painful to look at all the whiffs The Lions have had.. For ever Sanders, and Johnson we seem to get 25 whiffs..

 

[Mitchrapp]

On my computer I cannot see # 6 LOL I think it is EBron but not sure..

Me neither.

 

[tomdalton22]

they just place an add in the middle of the slide show.

 

[tbone413]

As Bad as they drafted, I usually dont put too much stock in the whole 'they could have taken X Player instead' as usually, several teams passed on the player after the lions as well. Its more than enough to just focus on the player they did take as being shitty.

The only one I tend to really get peeved over is the Ebron pick, for many reasons, but mostly because Mayhew compounded his mistake of not signing Suh/Fairley, by not drafting the best DT in draft (who went 3 picks later...)

 

[Mitchrapp]

And he seemed to always have a habit of drafting guys who had injury concerns while in college. IMO, the dumbest pick was Broyles. We drafted him knowing he might not be ready to start the season. Who does that..

 

[tbone413]

And he seemed to always have a habit of drafting guys who had injury concerns while in college. IMO, the dumbest pick was Broyles. We drafted him knowing he might not be ready to start the season. Who does that..

I agree Broyles was a bad pick. However, I cant help but think if a different team drafted him, he would have turned out to be a stud.

Look at Todd Gurley - he tore his ACL and was potentially going to miss the entire season, yet the Rams drafted him anyways. Now he looks like a the next Adrian Peterson out there, dude is a fucking stud.

If the Lions drafted him, I cant help but think that he tears an Achilles or something stupid...

I wonder if the Lions system as a whole is fucked up - as in the trainers rush players out, or have them rehabbing incorrectly, or who knows what - but it sure seems like they have 'bad luck' with draft picks being injured or getting injured shortly after putting on the Honolulu Blue...even players with zero injury history all of a sudden cant stay healthy, and when someone does get hurt, they always seem to either tweak something during rehab or get hurt shortly after returning...its frustrating as shit

 

[Mitchrapp]

Two problems. Drafting and getting the kids, who you did draft, to perform. Teach 'em.

 

[tomdalton22]

I agree Broyles was a bad pick. However, I cant help but think if a different team drafted him, he would have turned out to be a stud.

Look at Todd Gurley - he tore his ACL and was potentially going to miss the entire season, yet the Rams drafted him anyways. Now he looks like a the next Adrian Peterson out there, dude is a fucking stud.

If the Lions drafted him, I cant help but think that he tears an Achilles or something stupid...

I wonder if the Lions system as a whole is fucked up - as in the trainers rush players out, or have them rehabbing incorrectly, or who knows what - but it sure seems like they have 'bad luck' with draft picks being injured or getting injured shortly after putting on the Honolulu Blue...even players with zero injury history all of a sudden cant stay healthy, and when someone does get hurt, they always seem to either tweak something during rehab or get hurt shortly after returning...its frustrating as shit

Guys like Peterson and Gurley were absolute STUDS in college. Broyles was a small slot WR.

 

[zyxt9]

And he seemed to always have a habit of drafting guys who had injury concerns while in college. IMO, the dumbest pick was Broyles. We drafted him knowing he might not be ready to start the season. Who does that..

People who are easily intimidated into being scared by possibility of missing out on something.

In the draft, you have to be ok with not getting guys because you cannot get them all. Mayhew worked too hard at trying to get what he considered to be the perfect guy based on college stats. When that guy was even remotely going to get drafted by teams after the Lions pick, he would grab them...sometimes moving up in the draft to do it.

The smart teams like Pats and Packers are patient, they wait to see who is available when their pick comes around and are able/willing to fall back in the draft to get more picks. They get that if you are intelligent, you can always pick a guy who has potential to improve the TEAM. They don't hit every time either, but their patience tends to work better than being all nervous and jittery like the Lions have been on draft day, like Tweek on South Park jittery.

 

[johnny2x2x]

1-10? They could have done a 1-50 ranking and still not hit all of the mistakes.

 

[zyxt9]

1-10? They could have done a 1-50 ranking and still not hit all of the mistakes.

LOL...it's possible the internet itself is not large enough to hold that much data.

 

[biggunsbob]

1-10? They could have done a 1-50 ranking and still not hit all of the mistakes.

This is true...they really are a idiotic organization.

 

[mhughes0021]

its not the biggest mistake....but I found it to be one of the most comical ones. I love it when we extended Schwartz. Then when we fired him mayhew basically stated he wanted him gone the previous year lol. It just resembles the haphazardness of this organization. No one seems to know what theyre doing. they fly by the seat of their pants with no plan. It was very evident in how we drafted. We HAD TO KNOW there were going to be issues with player personnel in the upcoming yeard the way the contracts were laid out and we continued to never do anything to plan for it. We knew Avril was going to be gone...no plan. We knew we had to chose between Durant and levy...no plan. We knew we were going to be shorthanded at safety with Delmas and Spievey injured...no plan. We knew we were going to need help at DT with Suh and Fairley not resigning...no plan. It was over and over and over. You have Donald there knowing suh and fairley will be gone. Lets pick a part time TE/WR thingy that drops the ball all the time. ??????? You know you have an aging super star in calvin Johnson and you have Odell Bekham there. Those are plans.... Doing what your new ocord wants when he doesn't even have a playbook is NOT a plan!

 

[sggatecl]

Guys like Peterson and Gurley were absolute STUDS in college. Broyles was a small slot WR.

In before some clown tries to defend it with that stupid receptions record.

 

[sggatecl]

I'm going with drafting Suh/Fairley and not having the competence to keep either one of them into their prime.

 

[cmlfactor]

I think Randall Cobb was one of the guys still available but they selected Broyles instead.

 

[inkfreq]

Two problems. Drafting and getting the kids, who you did draft, to perform. Teach 'em.

This is the truth. The Lions didn't really "jump up" much to take the kids on this list. Javid Best yeah, but Titus Young was projected as a 2nd rounder. Mikel Leshoure was projected as a 2nd rounder and some teams thought 1st rounder. Ryan Broyles was projected as a 2nd rounder due to injury, and 1 st rounder before the injury. Some even said top 10 pick. Bill Bentley was projected as a third rounder, some said 4th.

Those guys and a whole bunch more were major whiffs, but they were taken right where they were expected to go.

Now ask yourself the million dollar question...

Would these guys have been busts on another team? We've got a track record of failed coaches even before Schwartz and Caldwell. Do we just have a staff unable to coach kids to play and be successful at this level?

The amazingly long string of busts coupled with the failure of our last few coaches, coupled with the fact these guys were taken right where scouts figured they would be, tells me more than a few of these guys probably could have had productive careers on another team.

I don't honestly know if this is draft failure or coach failure but it's team failure.

 

[biggunsbob]

This is the truth. The Lions didn't really "jump up" much to take the kids on this list. Javid Best yeah, but Titus Young was projected as a 2nd rounder. Mikel Leshoure was projected as a 2nd rounder and some teams thought 1st rounder. Ryan Broyles was projected as a 2nd rounder due to injury, and 1 st rounder before the injury. Some even said top 10 pick. Bill Bentley was projected as a third rounder, some said 4th.

Those guys and a whole bunch more were major whiffs, but they were taken right where they were expected to go.

Now ask yourself the million dollar question...

Would these guys have been busts on another team? We've got a track record of failed coaches even before Schwartz and Caldwell. Do we just have a staff unable to coach kids to play and be successful at this level?

The amazingly long string of busts coupled with the failure of our last few coaches, coupled with the fact these guys were taken right where scouts figured they would be, tells me more than a few of these guys probably could have had productive careers on another team.

I don't honestly know if this is draft failure or coach failure but it's team failure.

Yeah we would get Gronk and if he was a Lion he probably would be out of the league right now LOL..