2023 trade deadline

[Mitchrapp]

That sounds about right.

Trade Lorenzen for someones 27th ranked prospect that's hitting .221 with 16 HR, 13 BB and 103K in AA.

Are we trading with ourselves?

 

[kalinecountry]

https://totallytigers.wordpress.com/2023/07/31/special-edition-the-trade-deadline/#like-23081
SPECIAL EDITION: THE TRADE DEADLINE.
Totally Tigers

I?m writing this blog exactly 24 hours before the trade deadline. And so far, all?s quiet on the Midwestern Front.

But things are bubbling below the surface. Multiple reports of negotiations going on. And not just with one team.

So far, Scott Harris has not uttered Al Avila?s famous line about there not being any interest shown by other teams.

Multiple journalists are reporting that a variety of franchises are interested in Eduardo Rodriguez and Michael Lorenzen.

So why is this taking so long?

There are actually multiple reasons.

First, those trades rarely take little time to happen. GMs start conversations weeks in advance as they explore options and plant seeds with other teams.

As we know from this year, there are a significant number of organizations who were on the bubble about whether they were sellers or buyers. They were going to make up their minds as late as this past weekend.

Which is why Scott Harris is being smart and waiting. He wants to gather as many viable customers as possible. And then play them off against each other.

That?s what smart GMs (or PoBOs) do. We just forgot what it looked like for the past 8 years....

 

[gotime909]

.....it's about to heat up

 

[Mitchrapp]

JV back to Houston. Probably good for us because Houston lacks top 100 prospects. Though I'm curious what Houston gave up..

 

[tomdalton22]

JV back to Houston. Probably good for us because Houston lacks top 100 prospects. Though I'm curious what Houston gave up..

2 outfield prospects. One that is ranked about 75th and the other outside of the top 100

 

[Mitchrapp]

Rumor Lorenzen to Philly for Hao-Yu Lee not sure who else.. Hao-Yu Lee IF 20 years old..

 

[Mitchrapp]

Its official. Our former C Avila says he's a good prospect, supposedly good on the bases and good defense and strikezone. For a 2 month rental not bad.

 

[kalinecountry]

https://www.mlb.com/tigers/news/tigers-trade-michael-lorenzen-acquire-hao-yu-lee
Tigers nab Phillies' No. 5 prospect for Lorenzen.
Tigers official site

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/08/phillies-nearing-deal-for-michael-lorenzen.html
Phillies To Acquire Michael Lorenzen.
MLBTR

https://www.blessyouboys.com/2023/8...hael-lorenzen-hao-yu-lee-philadephia-phillies
Tigers trade Michael Lorenzen to Philly for infield prospect Hao-Yu Lee.
Harris deals with Dombrowski again, this time for 20-year-old High-A second base prospect Hao-Yu Lee.
BYBTB

https://motorcitybengals.com/posts/trade-tigers-trade-michael-lorenzen-to-phillies-01h6s93ak2j6
Tigers trade Michael Lorenzen to Phillies.
The Detroit Tigers have traded Michael Lorenzen to the Phillies.
MCBTB

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/s...iladelphia-phillies-for-prospect/70505188007/
Tigers ship Michael Lorenzen to Phillies for prospect Hao-Yu Lee.
Detnews

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/...phia-phillies-ha-yu-lee-prospect/70495810007/
Detroit Tigers trade Michael Lorenzen to Philadelphia Phillies for prospect Hao-Yu Lee.
Freep

https://www.mlive.com/tigers/2023/08/tigers-trade-starter-to-phillies-for-infield-prospect.html
Tigers trade starter to Phillies for infield prospect.
Mlive

 

[biggunsbob]

I was hoping for a better deal for ML.. maybe package a reliever with ML and get a top 100 guy which i don?t think Lee is. He is only #6 in the top ten of the Phillies. So I guess that is something. Maybe we resign ML in the off season. Just feels underwhelming to me.


Lee scouting stats

Scouting grades: Hit: 55 | Power: 50 | Run: 45 | Arm: 50 | Field: 50 | Overall: 50

Signed in June 2021 out of Taiwan for $570,000 at age 18, Lee didn?t waste any time in making a strong first impression. His nine-game debut in the Rookie-level Florida Complex League that summer, in addition to his instructs play that fall, had the Phillies thinking they might have an even better player than they thought when they signed him. He did nothing to dampen that excitement during a first full season in which he reached High-A, with only a broken hand slowing him down at all.

The 5-foot-10 infielder has the chance to be a very good hitter, with a clean swing and an advanced approach at the plate. Lee is a baseball rat who loves to work on his hitting and makes a ton of contact, striking out in just over 19 percent of his 2022 plate appearances while walking 12.3 percent of the time. There?s power in that compact frame and he?s added 10 pounds of muscle to it, which should help him impact the ball even more moving forward.

Lee?s instincts serve him well on the basepaths and defensively. He knows how to steal a base and runs the bases aggressively. He?s played three infield positions thus far and the Phillies plan to continue to have him do so, but he?s probably best suited for second base, with the upside of a big league regular at that spot.

 

[gotime909]

Seema like a pretty good prospect for 2 months of Lorenzen. Always scary being on the other end of a Dave deal tho

 

[tomdalton22]

I was hoping for a better deal for ML.. maybe package a reliever with ML and get a top 100 guy which i don?t think Lee is. He is only #6 in the top ten of the Phillies. So I guess that is something. Maybe we resign ML in the off season. Just feels underwhelming to me.


Lee scouting stats

Scouting grades: Hit: 55 | Power: 50 | Run: 45 | Arm: 50 | Field: 50 | Overall: 50

Signed in June 2021 out of Taiwan for $570,000 at age 18, Lee didn?t waste any time in making a strong first impression. His nine-game debut in the Rookie-level Florida Complex League that summer, in addition to his instructs play that fall, had the Phillies thinking they might have an even better player than they thought when they signed him. He did nothing to dampen that excitement during a first full season in which he reached High-A, with only a broken hand slowing him down at all.

The 5-foot-10 infielder has the chance to be a very good hitter, with a clean swing and an advanced approach at the plate. Lee is a baseball rat who loves to work on his hitting and makes a ton of contact, striking out in just over 19 percent of his 2022 plate appearances while walking 12.3 percent of the time. There?s power in that compact frame and he?s added 10 pounds of muscle to it, which should help him impact the ball even more moving forward.

Lee?s instincts serve him well on the basepaths and defensively. He knows how to steal a base and runs the bases aggressively. He?s played three infield positions thus far and the Phillies plan to continue to have him do so, but he?s probably best suited for second base, with the upside of a big league regular at that spot.

based on his profile as an overall 50 grade, he would be #8 or 9 on the Tigers prospect list (prior to this years draft). Not a bad return IMO

 

[kalinecountry]

Chafin to the brewers....

 

[kalinecountry]

Proof positive that Al Avila is no longer in charge of the Tigers.

Baseball Trade Values

Today the Phillies reportedly acquired RHP Michael Lorenzen ($3.3M median trade value) from the Tigers in exchange for 2B Hao-Yu Lee ($7.8M).

The deal is accepted by our model as a moderate overpay by Philadelphia.

 

[kalinecountry]

A short thread of Hao-Yu Lee swings.
Quick hitter thoughts:
-Very good strike zone knowledge.
-Doesn?t chase a whole lot.
-can drive the ball well to the opposite field .
-Love his hands.
-Would like to see him pull the ball with more authority.

Trevor Hooth does Tigers prospects for Bless You Boys Tigers Blog

 

[Mitchrapp]

[Passan] The Los Angeles Dodgers and Detroit Tigers had a trade in place for left-handed starter Eduardo Rodriguez, but Rodriguez invoked his 10-team no-trade clause that included the Dodgers and the deal is now dead, sources tell ESPN.

 

[gotime909]

Only the tigers

 

[Mitchrapp]

The Tigers did a lot for him.. let him work out his issues early in the season and this is how he pays him back..I hope they put him in the BP the rest of the season.

 

[biggunsbob]

Opps..

ER Kabooms the deal with the Dodgers. Harris better pivot in a hurry. This is ridiculous.

 

[Mitchrapp]

He wants to play on the east coast. The only team who are buying on the east is Philly and they just got a SP.

 

[biggunsbob]

It's ridiculous if Harris tried ro make a deal with the Dodgers before talking with. Rodriguez.
Very stupid.