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Right now MSU has a better Football program than Michigan, period.
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Get Startedjohnny2x2x said:Right now MSU has a better Football program than Michigan, period.
johnny2x2x said:Right now MSU has a better Football program than Michigan, period.
tigers99888 said:Can we say for the last year that Michigan has had a better basketball program? I mean since we are using comparisons here.. NO you don't have the better program and YES, you have the better team.. Similar to basketball in 2010-11, Michigan better team, but MSU better program..
I honestly think both teams will be mediocre next year, but Michigan does have Tim Hardaway Jr whom some are calling a legit top top 10 prospect.. We'll see if that's true... The only way I'll compare Michigan to MSU in basketball is if they actually make sweet 16s to Final Fours, beat MSU, and actually land a 5 star recruit.. Until that happens, they are nothing more than a mid tier big 10 program ala Minnesota..johnny2x2x said:tigers99888 said:Can we say for the last year that Michigan has had a better basketball program? I mean since we are using comparisons here.. NO you don't have the better program and YES, you have the better team.. Similar to basketball in 2010-11, Michigan better team, but MSU better program..
Hard to compare basketball to Football, but U of M was certainly better last year, ask me when they beat State this year and make a final 4.
4 in a row in Football counts for more than 4 in a row in basketball since they only play once a year.
[color=#FF6103 said:Monster [/color]]
johnny2x2x said:Right now MSU has a better Football program than Michigan, period.
program no. team...yes.
It's not about the recent series, but the overall body of work.. You've had two very mediocre seasons and two very good one's 2/4 is not enough Imo.. Do it consistently for 7-10 years then we'll compare..boogerlovejoy said:[color=#FF6103 said:Monster [/color]]
program no. team...yes.
Honest question Monster......at what point would you consider MSU a better program?? What would have to be done? Just trying to get a U of M fans' perspective.
boogerlovejoy said:[color=#FF6103 said:Monster [/color]]
program no. team...yes.
Honest question Monster......at what point would you consider MSU a better program?? What would have to be done? Just trying to get a U of M fans' perspective.
[color=#006400 said:biggunsbob[/color]]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8T_VsOFe0ek
johnny2x2x said:Yeah, Michigan has won a whopping 1 more Bowl Game this Century than MSU. 3 wins to 2 wins. Sorry, you have to now go back 5 years to find a win vs State now and it's not like Michigan has been an elite program this century. They had a chance at a National Title in 2006, but lost their last 2 games, other than that season they've been good, but not elite, so it wasn't like MSU was trying to catch USC or Alabama, it was trying to catch Michigan, a good program with 1 shared National Title in 50 years and coming off 15 wins in 3 seasons prior. Recruiting? Please, how much of a difference did the higher rated recruiting classes Michigan fielded the last 4 years mean?
4 wins in a row, and a much better record over the last 4 years is enough to catch and pass Michigan. 62-31 the last 2 years helps too.
It just goes towards the Michigan fans inflated image of Michigan Football. It's not an elite program and save for 1 season hasn't been elite this century.
[color=#006400 said:biggunsbob[/color]]A neck twist. Seriously I bet he gets a game suspension for it. Because we all know Dantonio does not punish any players. .. Did you see what that Thug Golhston did? Very odd but i think Sparty had 5 or 6 more Personal fouls today... But hey a win is a win... Congrats.
johnny2x2x said:[color=#006400 said:biggunsbob[/color]]A neck twist. Seriously I bet he gets a game suspension for it. Because we all know Dantonio does not punish any players. .. Did you see what that Thug Golhston did? Very odd but i think Sparty had 5 or 6 more Personal fouls today... But hey a win is a win... Congrats.
The neck twist was dirty, and the punch should have gotten him thrown out, but Lewan was hitting him in the head while he was on the ground and should have been flagged too. Plus they were cutting him all game while he was engaged with a blocker, came off limping once after the chop block. He had a right to be frustrated but he crossed the line twice. Still he should have been tossed. The P/F's helped Michigan not State. Kept several drives alive for them.
The play at the end by Rush that hurt Denard was a P/F, but not dirty, he just finished the tackle, happens all the time.
Face it Michigan got physically whooped on both sides of the ball by a stronger, faster, and more athletic team. "The tougher team won." George Perles 1986.
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