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A-roid other players involved in PED's?

Mitchrapp said:
So MLB went up in value because of peds? Or they went up in value despite peds? Not sure I understand your point.
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"Because of the alleged conspiracy, the lawsuit contends MLB has suffered "costs of investigation, loss of goodwill, loss of revenue and profits and injury to its reputation, image, strategic advantage and fan relationships," attorneys Allen Weitzman and Matthew Menchel wrote in the complaint."

http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_...ll-files-lawsuit-seeking-biogenesis-documents

Since MLB has recorded ~ $$$7.5 B in revenues during '12, prior to when the list of players' names was published earlier this year by the Miami New Times' reporter Tim Elfrink, MLB's alleging that it has suffered great financial harm, as a direct result of the alleged use by active players of banned substances/PEDs will be extremely difficult, if not impossible to prove in court.

http://www.miaminewtimes.com/2013-0...-supplies-drugs-to-sports-biggest-names/full/

MLB also has not (as yet) even proven by urine samples/blood tests that all of the players on that list, other than a few, such as the Tigers' minor leaguer, Cesar Carrillo who was suspended for 100 games, Melky Cabrera who last year who served a 50-game suspension for elevated testosterone had taken any PEDs/banned substances. Ryan Braun, of course had been "exonerated" due to a procedural technicality. A half-dozen or so players on that list being named obviously is a very small percentage out of all of the active players in MLB, anyway.
 
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Lets just wait and see how MLB's lawsuit that they just filed today pans out, okay?

Go take a nap if you're tired.
 
kalinecountry said:
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/mlb-sued-biogenesis-now-what/
MLB sued Biogenesis. Now what?
from fangraphs
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Depends on whether damning evidence was destroyed by the employees/defendants of Biogenesis, b/c it appears that "MLB could very well have served requests for documents with the complaint. Even if defendants file a motion to dismiss, that will not provide a valid basis for avoiding MLB’s discovery requests. And MLB can start taking depositions of the defendants just 30 days after serving the complaint."

Still, the burden of proof that MLB has indeed suffered financial damage and "harm to its reputation" ...ect...will be on them, and obviously a mere handful of players having potentially breached their contracts with the assistance and pursuasion of Biogenesis is a very tiny amount compared to all of the players in professional baseball currently and formerly.

MLB really doesn't care all that much about the lawsuit's eventual failure or success, IMO. They are ALL about obtaining Biogenesis' documentation revealing the names of all of the players and the substances that they took and purchased b/c that will provide them with the hard proof that they desperately want, in order to punish them with fines and suspensions, (if not perhaps lifetime bans?) Perhaps also, the "exoneration" of the Brewers' Ryan Braun on a procedural technicality last year, REALLY sticks in their craw, and MLB hopes to obtain documentation that "re-incriminates" him. ARoid's potential involvement could also make him a juicy target, b/c the NYY FO would very likely love nothing better than to possibly use his participation as a means to perhaps get out from under part, if not all of his remaining burdensome contract, especially since his skills and ability appear to be in sharp decline.

MLB turned a blind eye to all of the PES/PED abuse that took place post-lockout in the mid-90s through the mid-00s. then once national interest in the games began to revive and recover from the massive harm done due to the lockout, primarily by new records being set by its juiced-up superstars, only THEN did MLB begin to police the abuse and make more strict rules and penalties. MLB would like the fans to believe that it had played no large part in the ongoing deception, and its wholesome image is still being compromised and tarnished. Well, perhaps it may convince or have convinced the more naive and casual fans of that, but not me or those like me, who know all too well that they are just greedy, selfish hypocrites, for the most part. I watch baseball b/c of the players and my love of the game since childhood, not for the stuffed suits in MLB HQ raking in billion$$$.

Regardless if one is a sports fan or not, we of the "great unwashed" wind up paying them one way or another, and more or less, due to advertising, whose costs are passed on to the consumers in the products and services that we lease or purchase.
 
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Yankees? Rodriguez Tied to Clinic Records Purchase

"In his denial, which was issued through a public relations firm, Rodriguez said the documents cited in the Miami New Times article that were linked to him were ?not legitimate.?


"Now, Major League Baseball has concluded that Rodriguez bought such documents to keep investigators from obtaining them. And Rodriguez has issued another denial even as baseball essentially ignores it and keeps investigating"





If MLB can obtain hard evidence that not only was ARoid purchasing and taking banned substances from Biogenesis, but can prove that he also sought to conceal and later destroy such documentation, then his days as an active MLB player. much less as a Yankee, may be numbered, perhaps including any other players that can be linked and attempted to destroy proof of their culpability.



http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/13/s...-rodriguez-bought-clinic-documents.html?_r=1&
 
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