BCS nonsense

[biggunsbob]

The BCS formula is an exercise in nonsense.

By Dan Wetzel from yahoo sports..

It always has been; it

 

[biggunsbob]

I hate the BCS and will refuse to watch any of the championship games unless Michigan plays in it some day under its current form which really is corrupt. The one main argument that a playoff devalues the regular season is laughable and i really could care less about matching number one verses number two. Settle it on the field with a playoff so upstart teams like Boise st. or TCU or others can have a chance for that one perfect game and a upset. I mean that is what i like about the NCAA basketball championship... We all root for Upset's when it is not our team...Heck even with a playoff 8 out of 10 times the big named schools will make the finals anyway.. I just don't like the BCS system...I never had... To much manipulation and politicking envolved...

 

[dubbsco]

I hope no one still believes the, "Kids will miss too much class" argument with a playoff system. They could give a shit about the kids and their class. They want money. Look at March Madness. Some of those students may miss several weeks. Have a playoff at the start of December. A lot of the students will be starting their break anyways.

 

[wlvrnstlr4life]

So.......4 superconference winners and 4 at-large teams. How fun would it be? The regular season would mean everything. You stumble once, you still may be screwed. These kids would have everything to play for. The excuses don't make sense. What I do think should happen if this goes down, is that there should be no rankings until there are actual games under the belt. FSU/Miami is a perfect example why there should be no preseason rankings. Christ, Oklahoma was declared National Champion after clobbering FSU and FSU turned out to be pure shit.

 

[MAIZEandBLUE09]

I actually like it the way it is - and liked it even better before the BCS. I just don't want a true playoff in CFB because I truly think it would ruin the sport. Sure it would make it a little more fair but at what cost? And no matter what it's still based off a human poll - just like CBB. All that would happen was the Boise States of the world would just be left out of the top 4, top 8 or whatever that playoff was. I don't know why people keep messing with CFB. It's one of the most popular sports for a reason and for 100+ years no one complained about a playoff system until the BCS came about and now that we gave people a small taste of it (#1 vs. #2) they want to completely change the sport.

I'm fine with changing the system to determine #1 and #2 but I do not want to see a college basketball type playoff system.

 

[wolverine304]

I can't even tell if you're serious, or just want an arguement.

 

[Michchamp]

yeah.

I'll say another thing: the SEC's run at packing the championship game and winning it STINKS.

Something is rotten there, which is no surprise. In a system that's pretty much already rigged, the ones who benefit the most will be the ones that figure out how to game it. We've seen that time and time again with some of the absurd teams that get in.

 

[Michchamp]

I can't even tell if you're serious, or just want an arguement.

regardless, him liking the BCS would be consistent with every other equally idiotic position he's taken.

 

[thewolverines24]

I loathe the BCS. I would rather go back to the old system than continue to deal with the garbage of the BCS. I would love to see a playoff, but I have little hope I will see that before I die. Sadly I can say that as a 29 year old.

 

[byco42]

The BCS is the Emperor with No Clothes. It's a game that is engineered by a machine and that's why it means dick to me, even if Michigan was one of the teams.

Tell me that any Mythical Champion was less worthy and I'll disagree until the sun flames out.

 

[tinselwolverine]

The BCS is the Emperor with No Clothes. It's a game that is engineered by a machine and that's why it means dick to me, even if Michigan was one of the teams.

Tell me that any Mythical Champion was less worthy and I'll disagree until the sun flames out.

They're still mythical champions, even with the BCS. Nothing has changed; the AP names a champ and the coaches name a champ, and just because there's a BCS championship game doesn't mean there won't be a split mythical championship, as has been demonstrated.

 

[biggunsbob]

I mean when Les Miles can come out and say with a straight face that his 10-2 LSU teams deserves a shot at the BCS national title 2007 because they lost both games in triple overtime is beyond repulsive.. They fell to # 7 in the BCS after that last triple overtime loss to Arkansas but with a great media campaign to target the human polls they wormed their way back to # 2 after both Missouri and RichRods West Virginia team lost on the last week... The system is a joke and i cannot believe anyone defenses this corrupt system that is in place..

Funny Les got the idea from his wife after his second loss that year..

 

[johnny2x2x]

I just want a plus 1 format, say 2 semi final games on New Years Day with the winners playing a week later. I've heard the argument against this as being it's unfair to ask fans of a team to travel twice in January, well how about this, it's a final 4 city. One city hosts the final 4 and then the Championship. Can you imagine the week long hoopla in that city. It would be a week long party like the Super Bowl is except maybe even bigger.

 

[MAIZEandBLUE09]

I can't even tell if you're serious, or just want an arguement.

No I'm serious, and I'm not going to argue to the death (like other things)....just my opinion on the matter. I don't want want to see it change and I like it the way it is....or was under the old system. I like the bowl system and potentially ending the year with a win despite not competing for a NC. Just my opinion. The controversy always exists and it's naive to think that it goes away.

For instance, this big ten title game was supposed to eliminate all the controversy; how's that working out? Now we're in a situation where MSU already beat Wisconsin but still has to face them again to go to the Rose bowl....better yet, the loser then gets jumped my a Michigan team that Wisconsin didn't play and MSU already beat because of the championship game. If this championship game didn't exist MSU would be going to the rose bowl, Wisconsin to a at-large BCS bowl and Michigan would be going to the cap one bowl.

Imagine if we beat OSU and then the next week had to play OSU and then lost.....I'm not sure about you but that would piss me the hell off that we even had to play them again. IMO a playoff is just switching the controversy around to different things. In the end it's all about voting people into play in some form of playoff based on what they did in the regular season. Whether it's 2 teams or 16 teams...it really doesn't matter IMO. I like it the way it is.

 

[Michchamp]

In the past year I posted a link to that minor scandal in Arizona over the rampant lobbying and payments to local, state & federal politicians from Phoenix made by the Fiesta Bowl committee.

no one really commented on it at the time, but I think it was quite illuminating in that it showed exactly how much money is behind the BCS & bowl process, which explains why there has been no serious move to reform the system to host a playoff, despite the glaring absurdity in the process.

Seriously... how much money do you think there is out there lobbying to change the system? My guess is a BIG ZERO.

And this being America, the side with the most lobbying dollars on the line WINS. and unless fans stop going to the games and vote with their wallets, I don't see the money equation changing here.

And really... do you expect people to actually do something other than tune in, watch the games? Do you think the BCS games are going to be poorly attended? Hell no!

The BCS is HERE TO STAY.

 

[dubbsco]

It's here to stay, for a little longer. It will fold eventually. There's already incredible amounts of pressure on them.

A playoff would be an absolute blessing for the sport. There will ALWAYS be an argument about who's getting left out. I'd rather have the 17th ranked team complaining about the system than #3, #4, and other teams that finish undefeated without a shot at playing for a national title. It can happen. It's truly not that complicated. You can keep all the other bowls for teams who do not make the 16 (or 8) system. Could you imagine watching something like the #13 seed Michigan playing #3 Oklahoma State? Maybe Houston is the best team in the country, but they will never get a shot to play a real big boy. The system is a joke.

 

[MAIZEandBLUE09]

It's here to stay, for a little longer. It will fold eventually. There's already incredible amounts of pressure on them.

A playoff would be an absolute blessing for the sport. There will ALWAYS be an argument about who's getting left out. I'd rather have the 17th ranked team complaining about the system than #3, #4, and other teams that finish undefeated without a shot at playing for a national title. It can happen. It's truly not that complicated. You can keep all the other bowls for teams who do not make the 16 (or 8) system. Could you imagine watching something like the #13 seed Michigan playing #3 Oklahoma State? Maybe Houston is the best team in the country, but they will never get a shot to play a real big boy. The system is a joke.

Except here's the problem....the voters are still always going to be in control. So for all we know this year's Boise team would be ranked 17th in that system instead of top 10 just because no one wants to see them in the playoff. It's all relative to the system and the amount of money made.

 

[dubbsco]

You can take a lot of power out of their hands. The winners of the AQ conferences automatically get a spot at the table. You can use the BCS for ranking the last remaining spots. It's going to be flawed, but it will be MUCH better than what there is now. They'll make just as much money, they can get rid of a useless non conference game and start early December. You would have to agree that a team who wins a 16 team playoff is MUCH more deserving than a team who wins a garbage 1 v 2 which is decided by god knows what.

 

[biggunsbob]

It's here to stay, for a little longer. It will fold eventually. There's already incredible amounts of pressure on them.

A playoff would be an absolute blessing for the sport. There will ALWAYS be an argument about who's getting left out. I'd rather have the 17th ranked team complaining about the system than #3, #4, and other teams that finish undefeated without a shot at playing for a national title. It can happen. It's truly not that complicated. You can keep all the other bowls for teams who do not make the 16 (or 8) system. Could you imagine watching something like the #13 seed Michigan playing #3 Oklahoma State? Maybe Houston is the best team in the country, but they will never get a shot to play a real big boy. The system is a joke.

Except here's the problem....the voters are still always going to be in control. So for all we know this year's Boise team would be ranked 17th in that system instead of top 10 just because no one wants to see them in the playoff. It's all relative to the system and the amount of money made.

This argument is really hogwash... teams between 15 and 20 getting left out are different then the #3 through # 10 teams...

 

[dubbsco]

Teams between 17-25 probably have 3-4 losses. They have no right being in the playoff. There will be much less argument compared to the way it is now.