BCS nonsense

[biggunsbob]

Teams between 17-25 probably have 3-4 losses. They have no right being in the playoff. There will be much less argument compared to the way it is now.

I agree... As of right now no team at the top would want to play 10-2 Michigan in a playoff.. we may not win that game but it sure would bring excitement to the sport...Talking about Michigan playing Oklahoma st would be fantastic... Also that is way the NCAA basketball tournament is the best.. we always root for the upset.. How fun would it by to watch Boise St verses Alabama...There just is not any excitement for me in this current system.. And the argument that it would devalue the regular season is laughable because in fact SOS would be even more important for playoff seeding and a one or two loss team will not be eliminated like now (Unless you are LSU) but scheduling the cupcakes will stop somewhat in a playoff system...

 

[dubbsco]

The fact that it is one of the only major sports without a playoff system is crap. I'm tired of hearing about how the regular season is the playoff. Teams like Houston, Auburn (from 03 I believe), Tulane (went undefeated a season, can't remember when), and other teams with one loss are basically fighting an uphill battle against the system is crap. We'll never know how good Houston is. And that's a shame.

 

[TheVictors]

I could really give a rat's ass. I've never believed for a minute that the NCAA Basketball Tournament winner is any less 'mythical' than any Bowl game winner. And regardless of the outcome, the fans of teams 2-5 in the final poll whine about getting screwed.

I agree with byco's opinion and to me, the only playoff that is realistic at all is a 'Plus-1' anyways.

 

[mhughes0021]

Ive seen no issue with a +1 game. It wont "keep the kids from class" by adding 1 more week. And it kills the debate from the teams that "just miss" being in the championship game cause their ranked 3 and there a bunch of controversy. Have a 1 vs 4, 2 vs 3 in BCS games then the winners of those games play for the championship the following week. Most people wouold agree that if youre not in the top 4 during the season according to the BCS then you more than likely shouldnt be considered for the championship.

In my scenerio this year you would have LSU vs Stanford, Alabama vs Ok St and the winners of those games playing for the national champ. You would have eliminated all the drama the media has spewed about the LSU/Alabama rematch cause if those teams ended up in the champ game they would have definitely earned it. To be honest id want to watch both semi games.

 

[MAIZEandBLUE09]

biggunsbob[/color]]

Except here's the problem....the voters are still always going to be in control. So for all we know this year's Boise team would be ranked 17th in that system instead of top 10 just because no one wants to see them in the playoff. It's all relative to the system and the amount of money made.

This argument is really hogwash... teams between 15 and 20 getting left out are different then the #3 through # 10 teams...

It's not though - because the argument now is that teams like Boise are left out....among others. When you open it up to say a four or six team playoff all that will happen is that it will be extremely hard for Boise to make it into those rankings...just like how no one will rank Boise in the top 2 right now. Sure it will prevent things like the 2005 Auburn team that went 12-0 or whatver they were and didn't get a NC...but I personally just like it the way it is.

 

[wolverine304]

How will it be hard for boise to make it in the rankings. They're always in the top 10 but their schedule keeps out of being top 2. A playoff would give them a chance.

 

[dubbsco]

The system now pales in comparison to the potential it could be. What it is right now is a bunch of dudes sitting in a room, deciding who they want to be in the title game. The fact that one of ESPN's BCS gurus said, "The voters may simply not want to see a rematch." THAT's the problem. When you get a playoff, you eliminate that crap. Yeah, teams will get left out, but teams get left out of March Madness, and that is the BEST playoff system IMO. It's insanely entertaining, the underdog gets a shot, and the best teams emerge 99/100 times. We'll never know how good the Houston's of the world will be with this BS. Imagine how fun it would be to watch a playoff, and how much more money they could generate.

 

[TheVictors]

Anything besides a Plus-1 is highly unlikely anytime in the future. And again, anyone who is a big enough fan to travel to a Bowl Game is well aware of how expensive it is. Basketball is different b/c it is played indoors and in smaller arenas. I cannot imagine being a proud UM Alum and traveling to 2 or 3 playoff games or being able to afford this 'fantasy endeavor'

 

[dubbsco]

If Michigan made it to the final 4 of the playoffs, they would be well-represented. I'm broke as shit, and I would sell my computer to make it out to that game. I have no doubt money would not be an issue to fans. Wings tickets are astronomical in the later rounds, and they still manage to sell out.

 

[TheVictors]

Year after year, round after round? ......Sure, the first time, but look at all these single game Conf Champ games that are 1/2 to 2/3 full as it is. I'm fairly certain a Plus-1 works because as it is, the majority of SuperBowl tickets go to 'non-fan' corporate sponsors. But people who talk about an 8 or 16 team playoff are not being realistic ..outside of wanting to watch these games on TV.

Rose Bowl 2004 was $2000 all-in for us and this year's ND & OSU game trips to A2 were roughly $2000 combined, using some points and having a free place to stay in A2 with friends which totalled 5 nights (or another $1000 at $200/night for a decent hotel ....and hotels in Pasadena for the Rose Bowl are more like $300-$400/night).

 

[dubbsco]

An 8-team playoff can absolutely work. Really not too complicated, actually. Remove one of the garbage games against a 1-AA team that every top dog plays. Start the playoffs at the beginning of December. You can sprinkle all the other bowl games around it, because there still needs to be money made by those sponsors. It would take three weeks. If a team like UNC or Duke can play an entire month of basketball and travel all over the place, CFB, one of the biggest money makers out there, can figure out how to make an 8 team playoff work. I don't think cost of tickets or time is any reason whatsoever to stand in the way of it. Every single game will be at capacity in the team's colors, millions of people will be watching.

 

[mhughes0021]

An 8-team playoff can absolutely work. Really not too complicated, actually. Remove one of the garbage games against a 1-AA team that every top dog plays. Start the playoffs at the beginning of December. You can sprinkle all the other bowl games around it, because there still needs to be money made by those sponsors. It would take three weeks. If a team like UNC or Duke can play an entire month of basketball and travel all over the place, CFB, one of the biggest money makers out there, can figure out how to make an 8 team playoff work. I don't think cost of tickets or time is any reason whatsoever to stand in the way of it. Every single game will be at capacity in the team's colors, millions of people will be watching.

8 team playoff would get old after awhile when 3 SEC teams make it to the semis every year and get like 95 million for their schools to recruit more kids by the 100s to their programs with their low educational standards and unethical recruiting practices. Do the +1.

 

[Mitchrapp]

The fact that it is one of the only major sports without a playoff system is crap. I'm tired of hearing about how the regular season is the playoff. Teams like Houston, Auburn (from 03 I believe), Tulane (went undefeated a season, can't remember when), and other teams with one loss are basically fighting an uphill battle against the system is crap. We'll never know how good Houston is. And that's a shame.

I think we found out how good Houston is today. They're lousy.

 

[redandguilty]

Bowl-wise, everything should go back to the way it was with the old tie-ins. But we should keep the BCS computer+human polls ranking system. Then at the end of the season, we get an 8-team playoff. Whatever bowls teams 1-4 are in, that's the first round. That would only add 2 more games than are being played right now.

Of course, if any of the top 4 teams are playing each other in a bowl game, you have to add whatever bowl game has team number 5, to get up to 4 bowls. I guess the other way you could look at it is that you rank bowl games according to their highest ranked team and then pick the top 4 bowls for round 1 of the playoff.

 

[hungry]

so I'm seeing Boise St projected as Michigan's opponent in the Sugar Bowl. They aren't conference champions, though.

 

[dubbsco]

Today is exactly why the BCS is a disgrace. You have two teams who are both equally entitled to the final spot. At the very least, a plus game would do worlds of help.

 

[hungry]

Today is exactly why the BCS is a disgrace. You have two teams who are both equally entitled to the final spot. At the very least, a plus game would do worlds of help.

Yep, I can't think of a time where the +1 idea wouldn't work. Now there would have to be some issues worked out as far as timing

They wouldn't be able to get another game done in 1 week. THat would just be impossible. Travelling fans would be another issue. Would fans travel to the first game if they thought there might be a second game? Would they travel to both games? Could they get flights and hotels in the allotted time frame. There are a lot of logistical problems with the +1 scenario. Of course, if it were just about finding the #1 team, then none of that would matter, but there's money to be made!!

 

[Mitchrapp]

No one seems to mention S. Carolina. I have no idea who they played but currently 12 in the BCS. Or would that be too many SEC teams?

 

[packersfantheo]

Mitch[/color]]No one seems to mention S. Carolina. I have no idea who they played but currently 12 in the BCS. Or would that be too many SEC teams?

Too many. And they are extremely overrated.

 

[biggunsbob]

Only two teams can go from a conference to the BCS....Right?