Beilein

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Define Beilein

In your eyes, what do we have in Beilein?

 

[thewolverines24]

JB is a very good coach, but we need someone on this staff who really stresses rebounding and defense. JB will never stress rebounding, but I think he is getting better about defense. Many of our defensive problems stem from youth. Poor communication, poor rotations, bad positioning. Those three things lead to all the wide open jumpers we see night in and night out. That will be our undoing in the tourney this year. I love JB as a coach, but I just feel we have some youngsters who are not dedicated to both ends of the floor.

 

[hungry]

I don't think defense was the real problem last night. Was it a problem? Sure, but there were more disturbing things that I saw:

rebounding (a constant issue under JB, some of this was just players being lazy, but JB's teams generally don't rebound well and this was another example, some of this is youth, but I don't see some of these players hanging out long enough for that to stop being an issue. We keep hearing how great Bacari is with the big men...well?)

missed free throws (the big men can't shoot a free throw to save their life and the guards missed some, too)


players are lackadaisical and lazy. they can't be bothered to get up for the penn states of the world. This isn't Burke or Hardaway, it's mostly the freshmen. Maybe they will grow out of it, but more likely, they'll go pro before they do and we'll be starting all over again

Still believe JB has the program headed in the right direction, but it just doesn't seem like he's getting through to these higher ranked freshmen. He might just be better at coaching up lower ranked guys.

 

[rumseyhouse77]

I think JB has the program going in the right direction, but this team needs to have a fire lit under their asses. I couldn't stand Bobby Knight, but he would have this team winning the B1G this season. Need someone that will get in the player's faces and not tolerate let downs and laziness.

 

[thewolverines24]

I don't think defense was the real problem last night. Was it a problem? Sure, but there were more disturbing things that I saw:

rebounding (a constant issue under JB, some of this was just players being lazy, but JB's teams generally don't rebound well and this was another example, some of this is youth, but I don't see some of these players hanging out long enough for that to stop being an issue. We keep hearing how great Bacari is with the big men...well?)

missed free throws (the big men can't shoot a free throw to save their life and the guards missed some, too)


players are lackadaisical and lazy. they can't be bothered to get up for the penn states of the world. This isn't Burke or Hardaway, it's mostly the freshmen. Maybe they will grow out of it, but more likely, they'll go pro before they do and we'll be starting all over again

Still believe JB has the program headed in the right direction, but it just doesn't seem like he's getting through to these higher ranked freshmen. He might just be better at coaching up lower ranked guys.

Bad positioning/spacing on defense and poor rotations lead to poor rebounding. Players are out of position and can't box out and they leave the glass open for the offense to clean it up. The effort on the glass obviously needs to be better as well. A lot of effort can help mask the other issues.

 

[wheels002]

I still think we are a very young team headed in the right direction. This team has 6 new players on it. Only 3 players who played last year are playing now. Give them time to develop.

 

[TheVictors]

What Wheels said .... And I don't think the O is gimmicky at all. In hoops, that would mean some sort of "run and gun" non-stop fast breaking which has been tried in the past. The problem with Belien's O is that it relies so heavily on the 3's and the players tend to stand around and watch Burke dribble. The team needs more energy and to GROW SOME BALLS!

 

[hungry]

I still think we are a very young team headed in the right direction. This team has 6 new players on it. Only 3 players who played last year are playing now. Give them time to develop.

The only problem I have with "time to develop" is that some of these guys will be gone this year or next. Then we'll be stuck with less talented players and freshmen again

 

[thewolverines24]

The only problem I have with "time to develop" is that some of these guys will be gone this year or next. Then we'll be stuck with less talented players and freshmen again

Yep. It sucks, but time to develop has become an oxymoron in college basketball.

I remember way back when (all the way back in the 90s!) even the best players in college bball always stayed for 2-3 years. A few exceptions in there. It's funny how the NBA didn't suck ass back in those days. No way the two are related.

 

[dubbsco]

Defense was the #1 problem last night.

Michigan out-rebounded PSU 37-27.

When you let a team that doesn't even shoot 30 percent from deep, go 10-20, that's defense. I can't count how many times they had a wide open look from the top of the key. For whatever reason, they were double teaming guys over and over again, letting the PSU players have great looks. The switching was awful. When you give up 84 points to a team that scores 62 a game, I'm not sure how you can say defense is not the #1 problem.

 

[thewolverines24]

Defense was the #1 problem last night.

Michigan out-rebounded PSU 37-27.

When you let a team that doesn't even shoot 30 percent from deep, go 10-20, that's defense. I can't count how many times they had a wide open look from the top of the key. For whatever reason, they were double teaming guys over and over again, letting the PSU players have great looks. The switching was awful. When you give up 84 points to a team that scores 62 a game, I'm not sure how you can say defense is not the #1 problem.

The defensive gameplan was idiotic at best last night. I don't know why they wanted the bigs trapping and hedging so hard against Penn State. It caused 4 on 3 situations over and over and it absolutely killed us. God, I wish we implemented the 2-3 zone more often. The length of our wings are perfect for that defense. Of course, that defense would actually require a real dedication to rebounding.

 

[Michchamp]

in one of the clips, I saw Beilein chewing out Stauskas after we gave up an easy bucket.

PennState has been averaging 62 ppg all year... we gave up 84.

I'd say bad defense looks like the culprit.

being realistic... it's only JB's fault if we see it continue to be a problem. No coach can keep his team motivated and focused all year long, so these things happen.

 

[dubbsco]

And you RARELY see Beilein chewing anyone out. He is one of the most calm coaches I've ever seen. So, clearly, he's getting pretty pissed off. I can't believe he doesn't preach defense. He does. I just don't think it's getting through. They need to do that drill they did in Glory Road or something, put on pads, and just rough up each other until someone starts bleeding. I really hope they play like their hair is on fire Sunday.

 

[tinselwolverine]

I'm just disgusted. 15 point lead.

 

[wlvrnstlr4life]

GROW SOME BALLS!

This

 

[umsparty]

What is it with ex-West Virginia coaches not using defense?

 

[Michlady]

he talks about defense but he and asst coaches are not getting through somehow

i do put last night on the coaches somehow these kids did not seem ready
i do think he is good coach though overall

look what he started with

coaches like players have bad days

 

[hungry]

OK, defense was bad

that being said, if they hit a few more ft's and got a couple putbacks or stopped a couple of putbacks by getting the rebound instead, then they still would've won a close highscoring game and we'd be bitching about a win instead of bitching about a loss.

 

[thewolverines24]

The staff still needs to work on teaching the 2-3 to the team. We play an undersized lineup and for games like this Sunday, it would be nice to have a quality zone defense to use.

I know it's too late in the seasaon to do this now. I just would like to see it starting next year.

 

[dubbsco]

I don't agree with it being too late. 2-3 zone is something every kid should be able to run. It's a pretty standard zone through HS, AA, whatever. I don't think anything could be much worse than this team's man to man.