Caldwell to Return

[cheeno]

Well he's 2-12 against teams with a record of .500 or better. But the schedule looks easy next year so at least we got that going for us.

 

[grandy]

I wonder if anyone has really examined the possibility that the second half turnaround of this team was more due in part to Mayhew's exist and Caldwell's coaching than Cooters?

The reality is (and I am sure the angry people will be here any moment to throw their hands over their ears and yell "NUH UH" repeatedly, so this is for the less emotional more intelligent folks) we have no idea what was happening behind the scenes.

In the second half, some minute adjustments were made, but they were impactful. Ihedigbo sat down behind Quddus. We stopped running the ball as much and went back to throwing the ball. Stafford free-wheeled a lot more. We saw some different receivers get into the mix. Changes on the O-Line. Etc...

No one can really be sure that Mayhew wasn't telling Caldwell which players he was damned well going to play because of contracts, the balance he wanted, etc...

Now, I am in no way trying to make excuses for anything that was done. I don't really care who was at fault last season... the first half completely sucked. Blame everyone for all I care.

But I often find it interesting that fans with the absolute LEAST access to any knowledge at all, think that can tell you who is to blame for every problem, and who should be hired and fired to correct it.

If even ONE person on this board was half as smart as they think they are with this stuff, they would be our team president, and we'd have won 8 superbowls in the last 5 years.

A soft schedule helps too

 

[tonyballs]

Anyone else, he's one of the worst head coaches in the league. Your head coach isn't supposed to be the third best coach on your roster. That's a recipe for disaster going forward. Yay, we can be good until he can't find a coordinator to coach for him...so exciting.

Anyone else? Lol. Cmon man. And he's not the 3rd best coach on the team. That's a joke. Continuity is a good thing in the NFL. The players love the move.

 

[elrod817]

I'm in the minority, but I'm happy with this...not excited about other prospects out there and if Caldwell gets canned mid-season I'll be happy to welcome interim head coach Austin.

 

[tonyballs]

Your head coach is supposed to impact your team more than being a game manager. And he's not even good at that. So far he has shown he is a good guy who is good at making connections to people. Nothing at football . Lol, that's why he's a joke.

But you can't even give me a name. Lol

 

[tonyballs]

Well he's 2-12 against teams with a record of .500 or better. But the schedule looks easy next year so at least we got that going for us.

I thought wins and losses were on the QB around here? Holy shit this is confusing.

 

[cheeno]

I thought wins and losses were on the QB around here? Holy shit this is confusing.

Both are terrible against good competition. Super Bowl here we come!

 

[inkfreq]

A soft schedule helps too

But see, that's my point man. It's easy to say soft schedule, Lombardi got canned, Cooter was hired, or any other excuse.

But none of us have any clue what was happening behind the scenes. None of us know whether or not Mayhew was adamant on keeping Lombardi, or was 100% against promoting Cooter.

We simply don't have a clue.

What we do know is that an owner, who got deeply involved (for once) found it necessary to fire the GM and that same owner backed the coach all the way. And once that happened, we won 6 out of 8 games.

I'm not defending Caldwell here. I'm simply saying that as fans we have no idea what precipitated the moves that were made, and we're trying to fit the facts to the evidence instead of the other way around.

 

[inkfreq]

I thought wins and losses were on the QB around here? Holy shit this is confusing.

Wins and Losses are 100% dependant on who the fans like and who we want fired in Detroit Tony.

If we win games, Austin and Cooter are awesome. If we lose games Caldwell and Stafford need to go.

That's just how it is, and how it always has been in Detroit. Just ask any goalie ever to play for the Red Wings.

 

[tonyballs]

Both are terrible against good competition. Super Bowl here we come!

If someone could give me a name to replace Stafford and Caldwell then problem solved? But nobody can, so......

 

[cheeno]

Wins and Losses are 100% dependant on who the fans like and who we want fired in Detroit Tony.

If we win games, Austin and Cooter are awesome. If we lose games Caldwell and Stafford need to go.

That's just how it is, and how it always has been in Detroit. Just ask any goalie ever to play for the Red Wings.

Yes that's it. Definitely not on our inability to score in the second half of games or poor in game management like playing the lateral on the last play of the game.

 

[tonyballs]

Wins and Losses are 100% dependant on who the fans like and who we want fired in Detroit Tony.

If we win games, Austin and Cooter are awesome. If we lose games Caldwell and Stafford need to go.

That's just how it is, and how it always has been in Detroit. Just ask any goalie ever to play for the Red Wings.

Nailed it, Ink lol

 

[tonyballs]

Yes that's it. Definitely not on our inability to score in the second half of games or poor in game management like playing the lateral on the last play of the game.

Or having leads in games and your defense shits the bed. That happens too, but you must have been asleep for that part, right?

 

[cheeno]

If someone could give me a name to replace Stafford and Caldwell then problem solved? But nobody can, so......

Well they aren't going to appear out of nowhere like Bettleguise if we say the right name on this message board. The man in charge who could make such moves decided (ie was told by a 90 year old woman) that we are going with the status quo. And hey I am looking on the bright side, the schedule looks weak next year. As long as we play teams with a record below .500 we have to be thinking another playoff exit is in store. That's good for us!

 

[cheeno]

Or having leads in games and your defense shits the bed. That happens too, but you must have been asleep for that part, right?

You mean that lead where Caldwell had two corners stand on the 50 yard line? That lost happened because I didn't like Caldwell enough according to you and ink.

 

[cheeno]

Wins and Losses are 100% dependant on who the fans like and who we want fired in Detroit Tony.

If we win games, Austin and Cooter are awesome. If we lose games Caldwell and Stafford need to go.

That's just how it is, and how it always has been in Detroit. Just ask any goalie ever to play for the Red Wings.

That's been our problem all along guys for the past 50 years we haven't liked guys enough. Who knows if we had have liked Mayhew just a bit more he wouldn't have picked Ebron.

 

[tonyballs]

You mean that lead where Caldwell had two corners stand on the 50 yard line? That lost happened because I didn't like Caldwell enough according to you and ink.

That loss was on Caldwell. I agree, but the "facemask" was a bullshit call and the world knows it.

 

[jdeb]

Good move by Quinn. I mean, at the end of the day he did a pretty good job with this team and most of the guys that got HC positions will be fired within a couple of years. Gase will be the first to get axed. I think Caldwell learned his lesson about running the offense, he was too loyal to Lombardi and it bit him.

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[tonyballs]

Well they aren't going to appear out of nowhere like Bettleguise if we say the right name on this message board. The man in charge who could make such moves decided (ie was told by a 90 year old woman) that we are going with the status quo. And hey I am looking on the bright side, the schedule looks weak next year. As long as we play teams with a record below .500 we have to be thinking another playoff exit is in store. That's good for us!

Still no names eh? Exactly what i thought

 

[cheeno]

That loss was on Caldwell. I agree, but the "facemask" was a bullshit call and the world knows it.

Bullshit calls happen to teams a half dozen times a game (it seems like twice as many at key times to the Lions). Good teams and good coaching overcome those penalties.