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[Spartanmack]

He was part of OJ Simpson's defense team, I think I remember.

he was more a celebrity than an actual lawyer, and yeah, his personal life is awful. He also was allegedly pretty rotten to his ex-wife, who later committed suicide.

and he's incredibly thin-skinned & threatens to sue anyone and their mother who publicly criticises him.

Oh, and the guy involved in teh recent sex scandal was named Epstein... TONS of awful headlines coming out about that... do a search for "Dershowitz Epstein" and get ready to freak out.

you mean like this one - the first one that comes up when you search Dershowitz Epstein?

https://www.businessinsider.com/alan-dershowitz-jeffrey-epstein-settlement-2016-4

From the article (Edwards and Cassell are the lawyers who alleged Dershowitz had sex w/ a minor that was arranged by Epstein):

Edwards and Cassell acknowledge that it was a mistake to have filed sexual misconduct accusations against Dershowitz,

Also from the article:

Edwards and Cassell noted in their statement Friday that Dershowitz had produced travel records to establish he couldn't have been present during the supposed misconduct, in addition to other allegations to refute the claims against him.

This post of yours is just more proof that you'll believe and say or repeat anything to discredit anyone who doesn't toe the progressive line.

 

[tinselwolverine]

He was part of OJ Simpson's defense team, I think I remember.

he was more a celebrity than an actual lawyer, and yeah, his personal life is awful. He also was allegedly pretty rotten to his ex-wife, who later committed suicide.

and he's incredibly thin-skinned & threatens to sue anyone and their mother who publicly criticises him.

Oh, and the guy involved in teh recent sex scandal was named Epstein... TONS of awful headlines coming out about that... do a search for "Dershowitz Epstein" and get ready to freak out.

Being thin skinned and sue happy certainly links him as a great fit with Trump.

I think Dershowitz rose to an amount of fame and notoriety representing international socialite Claus von Bulow in von Bulow’s appeal of his conviction for the murder of von Bulow’s wife.

Jeremy Irons won the Oscar for his portrayal of Claus von Bulow in the film Reversal of Fortune (1990).

The late Ron Silver, former big mouthed Hollywood libtard turned big mouth Hollywood Republitard, played Dershowitz.

 

[Gulo Blue]

I'm not talking about your opinion of Trump's qualifications.

Then why did you respond to me at all? I responded to a specific thing you said; saying something about that specific thing. You've gone on and on about stuff that's not the thing you responded to. I get that you read stuff elsewhere that you're thinking of, but I didn't make those other points you're thinking about.

 

[Michchamp]

you mean like this one - the first one that comes up when you search Dershowitz Epstein?

https://www.businessinsider.com/alan-dershowitz-jeffrey-epstein-settlement-2016-4

From the article (Edwards and Cassell are the lawyers who alleged Dershowitz had sex w/ a minor that was arranged by Epstein):
Also from the article: This post of yours is just more proof that you'll believe and say or repeat anything to discredit anyone who doesn't toe the progressive line.

there are plenty of other stories about it...

 

[Spartanmack]

Then why did you respond to me at all?

I already explained that in post 40.

 

[Gulo Blue]

you mean like this one - the first one that comes up when you search Dershowitz Epstein?

https://www.businessinsider.com/alan-dershowitz-jeffrey-epstein-settlement-2016-4

Your browser has some wonky settings or cookies if a story from 2016 is the first search result you get. I've got 8 results from this month before I hit an old result. And if I do a news search, at least the first few pages of results are all from this month.

 

[Spartanmack]

there are plenty of other stories about it...

yep, most of them can be chalked up to "lawyer does his job for his client" as they concern dershowitz. of course most of them are written by #beleiveallwomen types who seem to have a clear bias and are trying to make dershowitz's actions seem to be out of the ordinary, shady and evil. And since you lack any sense of objectivity, and it suits your agenda, you take them as proof that Dershowitz is a bad guy. no one should be surprised by this.

by the way, the fact that he represented a sleazy pimp doesn't suddenly make him a neo-con let alone destroy any of his liberal cred, especially considering that pimp's highest profile client is Bill Clinton, every liberals darling. And Dershowitz can be a bad guy and a liberal - there's tons of them out there. And even if he is a bad guy, he's still more qualified to opine on legal matters than some leftist moron with degree from a third tier law school.

 

[Gulo Blue]

I already explained that in post 40.

Right. That was an enlightening post.



Your post is either meaningless or I'm going to interpret it to really be saying something I read elsewhere.


OK sure.

 

[Gulo Blue]

small world

In 2016, Dershowitz released a statement following what he said was “an independent investigation’’ that had been conducted by former FBI Director Louis Freeh, who is now a private consultant.

https://www.miamiherald.com/latest-news/article223315075.html

 

[Spartanmack]

Your browser has some wonky settings or cookies if a story from 2016 is the first search result you get. I've got 8 results from this month before I hit an old result. And if I do a news search, at least the first few pages of results are all from this month.

I have to use Bing at work and it's heavily restricted.

 

[Spartanmack]

Right. That was an enlightening post.



Your post is either meaningless or I'm going to interpret it to really be saying something I read elsewhere.


OK sure.

you responded to my point about how he was being treated by investigators. Given the context, it's not at all unreasonable for me to have read it to mean what I read it to mean - it has nothing to do with what I read elsewhere.


OK? are you sure?

 

[Gulo Blue]

I have to use Bing at work and it's heavily restricted.

Ouch. I'm sorry.

 

[Spartanmack]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jcYoMNgOfbE

how can you argue with the last POTUS who was actually qualified to hold the office?

 

[sggatecl]

how can you argue with the last POTUS who was actually qualified to hold the office?

I'm not saying I disagree with Reagan being qualified, I don't. But what job experience did he have that H.W. (Congressmen/VP), Clinton (Governor/State AG), Dubya (Governor), and Obama (Senator/State legislature) didn't have?

 

[tinselwolverine]

I'm not saying I disagree with Reagan being qualified, I don't. But what job experience did he have that H.W. (Congressmen/VP), Clinton (Governor/State AG), Dubya (Governor), and Obama (Senator/State legislature) didn't have?

He had played George Gipp and Grover Cleveland.

 

[Spartanmack]

I'm not saying I disagree with Reagan being qualified, I don't. But what job experience did he have that H.W. (Congressmen/VP), Clinton (Governor/State AG), Dubya (Governor), and Obama (Senator/State legislature) didn't have?

it was mostly tongue in cheek, but I'm definitely not a fan of the argument from authority. It has little to do with things like prior jobs or academic training and more to do with character (HW was probably qualified on that score as well) and accomplishments (other than simply winning an election). Obama may have been a senator but he had no legislative accomplishments to his name (not a single one if I'm not mistaken, his name is not on a single piece of legislation and i remember reading he set a record for voting present). Very little was actually known about him and his politics - he denied his close affiliation with Jeremiah Wright and commies like Bill Ayers, wasn't forthcoming about his policies or agenda - he basically charmed a bunch of rubes with platitudes and character assassination of his opponent.

 

[sggatecl]

character assassination of his opponent.

That seems to be the winning formula nowadays.

 

[Michchamp]

it was mostly tongue in cheek, but I'm definitely not a fan of the argument from authority. It has little to do with things like prior jobs or academic training and more to do with character (HW was probably qualified on that score as well) and accomplishments (other than simply winning an election). Obama may have been a senator but he had no legislative accomplishments to his name (not a single one if I'm not mistaken, his name is not on a single piece of legislation and i remember reading he set a record for voting present). Very little was actually known about him and his politics - he denied his close affiliation with Jeremiah Wright and commies like Bill Ayers, wasn't forthcoming about his policies or agenda - he basically charmed a bunch of rubes with platitudes and character assassination of his opponent.

so - in your mind - the only "unqualified" president going back to Reagan is Obama?

Trump - a failed real estate developer, who later hosted a reality TV show where he played a billionaire, and who never served in a legislature or won an elected office, or served in a public office of any kind - was more qualified than Obama?

or are you being "tongue in cheek?"

sometimes it's hard to tell.

 

[Spartanmack]

so - in your mind - the only "unqualified" president going back to Reagan is Obama?

Trump - a failed real estate developer, who later hosted a reality TV show where he played a billionaire, and who never served in a legislature or won an elected office, or served in a public office of any kind - was more qualified than Obama?

or are you being "tongue in cheek?"

sometimes it's hard to tell.

I didn't feel it was necessary to explain why for every one of them. I chose Obama since he's the most recent to hold the office and the easiest to pick apart. And yes, I think just about anyone is as or more qualified than him. The guy is a fraud. Basically got a job he didn't deserve at UofC Law School, ran virtually unopposed for the IL state legislature where he has 0 accomplishments to his name, did basically the same in the US Senate and ran for President by fooling a bunch of rubes like you to think he was qualified for the job. And now the President who has had his failed legacy erased faster than any before him and his wife are getting filthy rich off those rubes. Have you picked up your copy of "Becoming" yet and bought your tickets for the book tour?

I also think Hillary was unqualified - she was gifted a NY senate seat after being First Lady where she also accomplished nothing (she has her name on a bunch of bills but they're mostly for renaming bridges, schools, roads, airports, etc). Then she lost the nomination for the Presidency to someone less qualified than her and was given the SoS position as a consolation prize where she was an abject failure and still she fooled rubes like you into voting for her for President (I know, I know, you were fooled by an even bigger boob in the Dem primary, but you surely voted for her for President).

Her husband as Governor of Arkansas was more qualified but still unqualified. Giving the White House to the Governor of Arkansas is like taking the proprietor from a failed mom and pop grocery and asking them to run Wal Mart (I can't take credit for that one - Ross Perot said it during one of the debates).

It's funny how clowns on the left pick on Trump as the GOP selection when they seriously consider nominating people like Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton - and now there's serious talk about Michelle Obama nomination or pairing her w/ someone as their VP. How can people who think like this expect their criticism to be taken seriously?

 

[Spartanmack]

That seems to be the winning formula nowadays.

indeed. I think if Romney wasn't such a decent person and instead stooped to the same levels, he may have won the presidency. As it was, he tried to make the election about policy differences and he never had a chance since Obama successfully made perhaps the most decent person to run for POTUS since Bush I seem like the devil. Not to mention he couldn't be nailed down on any policy matters - he was a virtual unknown, but to the left he was their messiah.