Cologne incident

[Gulo Blue]

http://www.people-press.org/2015/04/07/a-deep-dive-into-party-affiliation/

If we start with people that don't attend college, 31% identify as dem and 22% identify as rep. Of those that attend some college, dems lose 1%, rep gain 3%. Of people that finish college, compared to those that never attended, dems gain 3%, reps gain 2%. No strong trends there.

If we include lean dem or lean rep, the same jumps are 0% dem, 5% rep for some college, +5% dem +3% rep for those that finish college.

So the professors maybe lean significantly left, but I don't think it's reflected in their influence on students. BUT, if we look back to 1992, completing college used to cause the rep/lean rep percentage to jump 13% while dems lost 9%. So, based on this one Pew survey, it kind of looks like the influence of college is more liberal than it was in the 90's, but it's gone from swinging people republican to neutral.

Post-grads, that's where the real commies are. In '92, it swung people republican, now it drops them 1% while dems pick up 9%.

 

[tinselwolverine]

http://www.people-press.org/2015/04/07/a-deep-dive-into-party-affiliation/

Post-grads, that's where the real commies are. In '92, it swung people republican, now it drops them 1% while dems pick up 9%.

Right.

Not all, but a very percentage of people who enter postgraduate studies do it with the intention of being professional academics themselves.

I guess engineers, MBAs, Medical and Law school might be generally excepted from this - who else?

 

[Spartanmack]

Right.

Not all, but a very percentage of people who enter postgraduate studies do it with the intention of being professional academics themselves.

I guess engineers, MBAs, Medical and Law school might be generally excepted from this - who else?

Women's studies, modern feminist adn lesbian dance theory majors - they tend to leave academia move on to host shows on MSNBC - you know, people like Chris Hayes, or as I like to call him, the female Rachel Maddow.

 

[grandy]

Post-grads, that's where the real commies are. In '92, it swung people republican, now it drops them 1% while dems pick up 9%.

I've always been a bit skeptical of this. How many of these people have "life experience" or have they been in school their entire life? I could understand how someone might have a more idealistic view of the world and how everything should work, without having experienced it. Forgive me if I'm wrong on this, I only speak from experience...I was a pretty extreme liberal after earning my degree (I'm sure there's evidence on this forum), but I've backed off since.

 

[Gulo Blue]

I've always been a bit skeptical of this. How many of these people have "life experience" or have they been in school their entire life? I could understand how someone might have a more idealistic view of the world and how everything should work, without having experienced it. Forgive me if I'm wrong on this, I only speak from experience...I was a pretty extreme liberal after earning my degree (I'm sure there's evidence on this forum), but I've backed off since.

No argument from me. Sometimes life is a zero-sum game and it's tough to absorb that lesson on a college campus where huge piles of money are thrown around and the output is mostly on paper (also a fair description of Wall St., though though that's not what I was thinking as I wrote it.)

 

[Spartanmack]

so I guess only 3 of the 58 men arrested in conjunction with these attacks turned out to be recently arrived refugees from the Middle East. link.

the remainder were mostly from Algeria and Morocco, all of whom were there legally and some of whom were even German citizens, though among racists, that doesn't make a difference... they're all "Arabs"

And once again facts show you are completely full of shit...

http://news.yahoo.com/cologne-prosecutor-majority-suspects-asylum-seekers-135156726.html

Here are some highlights:

Most of the suspects identified in connection with a series of robberies and sexual assaults in Cologne during New Year's celebrations are refugees, prosecutors said Monday.

Cologne prosecutor Ulrich Bremer said 73 suspects have been identified so far — most of them from North Africa. A total of 1,075 criminal complaints have been filed, including 467 alleging crimes of a sexual nature ranging from insults to rape.

"The overwhelming majority of persons fall into the general category of refugees," Bremer told The Associated Press, saying recent reports describing only three of the suspects as refugees were "total nonsense."

Isn't the internet awesome. Of course, the source is the AP which we all know is a right wing media outlet and there's a good chance the Cologne prosecutor has recently read Mein Kampf so he's probably a racist xenophobe, too - so there's that...

LOLOLOLOL

 

[Gulo Blue]

And once again facts show you are completely full of shit...

Isn't the internet awesome.

In post #1 of this thread I'm shifting my position because the reported facts changed.

Media sucks.

 

[Spartanmack]

In post #1 of this thread I'm shifting my position because the reported facts changed.

Media sucks.

that's certainly your prerogative although I think your position in post 1 was pretty reasonable - open-minded and left yourself room to be flexible. For the record, I'm not advocating a hardline position on immigration - I do think the narrative that there's no cause for concern and those who do show concern are racist is ridiculous. The process should follow the law, be rigorous and transparent.