Coronainsanity

[byco42]

it's the pay grades at the top levels that are the issue... you're going to pay FDA senior management ~$150K a year (and living in DC isn't cheap), when they can jump to Pfizer or J&J, or Astra Zeneca for double that, or more, plus a hefty bonus? And they know if they actually did their job in the FDA and performed due diligence and scrutiny on the drugs they were approving, that opportunity to jump and double their salary would not be there anymore?

So, YES, they are underpaid as government employees at those pay grades.

it's been this way for 30-40 years, so we can now assume this is all by design, and the drug companies via their lobbyists are calling the shots.

No one is forcing a Federal Employee to be one. If this special subset of employees are benefitting from the arrangement, I don't think that they have a price to go straight.

Well, then I expect you would agree that corporate America is the problem, not this mythological "big government."

Both, in gradient degrees are complicit in the devolution of our society, along many levels and layers.

 

[Michchamp]

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Both, in gradient degrees are complicit in the devolution of our society, along many levels and layers.

To clarify: in these cases of regulatory capture, ie, drug companies vs. the FDA, Wall Street vs the SEC, and so forth, the corporations with all the money, paying higher salaries than government, and with virtually limitless resources to fight the government, are the problem.

 

[byco42]

To clarify: in these cases of regulatory capture, ie, drug companies vs. the FDA, Wall Street vs the SEC, and so forth, the corporations with all the money, paying higher salaries than government, and with virtually limitless resources to fight the government, are the problem.

It's a circle of corruption as these people gravitate to and fro from government to the private sector. A merry-go-round wrapped in a spider's web.

 

[Michchamp]

It's a circle of corruption as these people gravitate to and fro from government to the private sector. A merry-go-round wrapped in a spider's web.

sure, but all the money comes from the private sector...

 

[byco42]

sure, but all the money comes from the private sector...

All the "money" comes from the FED; the central bank of the US. Actually, there is no money. There is currency, created out of thin air, which is exchanged for power and influence, and other nefarious and sundry aims.

 

[tinselwolverine]

Meanwhile back to the subject at hand, doctors question increase in danger to children from the Delta variant.

 

[Michchamp]

Meanwhile back to the subject at hand, doctors question increase in danger to children from the Delta variant.

I now personally know a 9 month old who got it (COVID, tested positive, but not sure if the delta variant. I assume so since it's the prevalent strain now). apparently got it from his nanny.

He was sick for over a week, with various symptoms... none severe enough to require hospitalization, then recovered.

No idea if he's suffered any permanent or long lasting damage. I hope
not.

Parents have both had it over the passed year, and are forging ahead with taking international trips with him this fall... yikes

 

[byco42]

Meanwhile back to the subject at hand, doctors question increase in danger to children from the Delta variant.

More kids are getting it [Delta], for certain. But, thankfully, they are not dying from it any more than they were from the original virus. deaths/100,000 remain in the same fractional state.

.05/100,000 was the highest ratio the CDC has published in the last year for anyone under 17, and that was for 16-17 years old. Below that the ratios are in the .01 to .02/100,000 range from the outset.

 

[tinselwolverine]

More kids are getting it [Delta], for certain. But, thankfully, they are not dying from it any more than they were from the original virus. deaths/100,000 remain in the same fractional state.

.05/100,000 was the highest ratio the CDC has published in the last year for anyone under 17, and that was for 16-17 years old. Below that the ratios are in the .01 to .02/100,000 range from the outset.

Crap, I made a post about how mutations tend to become more contagious and less virulent - not 100%, but it?s the tendency - citing this report from Reuters that didn?t publish for some reason. So here it again.

EDIT: Oh, man?that?s from a year ago, and the trend toward more contagious/less dangerous seems to be holding.

 

[Spartanmack]

sure, but all the money comes from the private sector...

ALL of it comes from the private sector, including the revenue collected for taxes, licenses and fees. The government produces almost none of it, but spends it like a drunken sailor.

 

[Spartanmack]

To clarify: in these cases of regulatory capture, ie, drug companies vs. the FDA, Wall Street vs the SEC, and so forth, the corporations with all the money, paying higher salaries than government, and with virtually limitless resources to fight the government, are the problem.

because all regulation is good or would be if left to the government. They only ever get it wrong when the private sector meddles in government overreach, I mean government affairs.

 

[Michchamp]

because all regulation is good or would be if left to the government. They only ever get it wrong when the private sector meddles in government overreach, I mean government affairs.

I'm not saying that at all. what's it called when someone makes up a point to argue against?

 

[Michchamp]

Mississippi's COVID strategy of "believing in God" is not going so well:

Mississippi has now surpassed the state of New York, the nation?s original pandemic hotspot, in total COVID-19 deaths per 100,000 residents. The only state where the pandemic has proven deadlier than the Magnolia State is New Jersey.​

This next comment... oh boy...

Mississippi displaced New York with a report of 65 additional deaths on Friday?a day after Gov. Tate Reeves told a Tennessee audience that southerners are ?a little less scared? of COVID-19 due to their religious faith.​

 

[Spartanmack]

I'm not saying that at all. what's it called when someone makes up a point to argue against?

no, you're just placing all the blame on the private sector for corrupting government, you're not saying that at all. Also, there's a difference between sarcastic hyperbole and strawman. The latter is what you do constantly.

 

[tigermud]

Or who needs money to live? Or will not get married and have a wife and kids (or husband and kids) who want things?

It's hilarious the double standards you guys put in place, and the naive view that corporate America is this paradigm of efficiency, and isn't entirely rife with lazy, greedy bureaucrat-types... the type you only imagine lived in Soviet Russia or "big government" here.

The problem is the libdem solutions are worse than the disease

 

[tigermud]

More kids are getting it [Delta], for certain. But, thankfully, they are not dying from it any more than they were from the original virus. deaths/100,000 remain in the same fractional state.

.05/100,000 was the highest ratio the CDC has published in the last year for anyone under 17, and that was for 16-17 years old. Below that the ratios are in the .01 to .02/100,000 range from the outset.

And they are better off now with natural immunity

 

[tigermud]

Mississippi's COVID strategy of "believing in God" is not going so well:

Mississippi has now surpassed the state of New York, the nation?s original pandemic hotspot, in total COVID-19 deaths per 100,000 residents. The only state where the pandemic has proven deadlier than the Magnolia State is New Jersey.​

This next comment... oh boy...

Mississippi displaced New York with a report of 65 additional deaths on Friday?a day after Gov. Tate Reeves told a Tennessee audience that southerners are ?a little less scared? of COVID-19 due to their religious faith.​

And that?s their decision not yours. People die everyday, nobody lives forever. I?ve heard ivermectin works really well, that?s not allowed to say at most social media sites though, banned, censored, junk science, too risky blah blah blah, personally I?d check my ass right out of that hospital and go get some ivermectin

https://americasfrontlinedoctors.org/treatments/how-do-i-get-covid-19-medication/


Hydroxychloroquine (HCQ), Ivermectin, and other COVID-19 medications can be obtained by prescription in the USA in almost every state. AFLDS-trained and licensed physicians are available via telemedicine for a short consultation. Our physicians know that HCQ and Zinc are effective both prophylactically and when used early. The telemedicine physician will review your history. Almost all patients can safely take these medications.

 

[tigermud]

Eugenist believe the world is over populated and that they have the moral authority To ?save the earth? from its useless eaters. They want you dead

https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_b...2N45Hdv2GMFvjQnun9YZp8Qg2MTpEarmoHIEyK4f9g9E=

 

[tinselwolverine]

And that?s their decision not yours. People die everyday, nobody lives forever. I?ve heard ivermectin works really well, that?s not allowed to say at most social media sites though, banned, censored, junk science, too risky blah blah blah, personally I?d check my ass right out of that hospital and go get some ivermectin

https://americasfrontlinedoctors.org/treatments/how-do-i-get-covid-19-medication/


Hydroxychloroquine (HCQ), Ivermectin, and other COVID-19 medications can be obtained by prescription in the USA in almost every state. AFLDS-trained and licensed physicians are available via telemedicine for a short consultation. Our physicians know that HCQ and Zinc are effective both prophylactically and when used early. The telemedicine physician will review your history. Almost all patients can safely take these medications.

HCQ and Ivermectin are proven zinc ionophores - they help enable zinc to get into the cells. It?s the zinc that is effective against the infection. There is no way Faucci doesn?t know this. I?ve been making this point for a year.

Trump recommended HCQ, so it must be dangerous and ineffective.

 

[Gulo Blue]

HCQ and Ivermectin are proven zinc ionophores - they help enable zinc to get into the cells. It?s the zinc that is effective against the infection. There is no way Faucci doesn?t know this. I?ve been making this point for a year.

Trump recommended HCQ, so it must be dangerous and ineffective.

HCQ requires too high a dosage.

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