Coronainsanity

[tomdalton22]

Perfect example is the public freaking out that like 2 people died from the Vaccine due to Myocardits. Yet, they give 0 fucks about the 10s of thousands that died from Covid causing Myocarditis. Yet..they will ALL tell you that they are being safe and not putting anyone in danger lol. Dumbasses....

I don't think there is data that suggests that the "vaccines" do much to stop the spread of the disease. The data suggests that they do help people from getting very sick. So, for the most part, people that are choosing to not get vaccinated aren't putting others in grave danger.

 

[tigermud]

I don't think anyone here is arguing for vaccine mandates

For the most part, I think there is one or two here though that wouldn't have any major issues with it.

 

[tigermud]

not true. Businesses can tell their employees to do whatever they want. Places of business can decide to serve whoever they want. Insurance companies can decide to cover...whoever they want.

The jury is also out on how fucked up people will be that got covid...based on people on this board that got it....It ATLEAST causes major CTE.

As they should have that right, and many businesses will say FU, and if Joe Bob's fear burger doesn't welcome me I'll take my business elsewhere. We can just medically segregate the country into vax'd and unvax'd if that makes you feel safer. The issue is when gumbit tries to tell everybody else what to do with one size fits all tyranny. There will be no end to that path and it leads to nothing good.

 

[zyxt9]

CDC reports Omicron now makes up 99.5% of Covid infections in US as they also report hospitalizations are dropping on the East Coast.

 

[mhughes0021]

I don't think there is data that suggests that the "vaccines" do much to stop the spread of the disease. The data suggests that they do help people from getting very sick. So, for the most part, people that are choosing to not get vaccinated aren't putting others in grave danger.

Im not an expert by any means but its widely known that Vaccines reduce...but do not eliminate replication. We've seen this throughout history...rotavirus being an example.
Reduction is important to limit spread. All this probably goes out the window now cause Omicron is here and its infection rate is off the charts with not much protection from the vaccines we have available to us.

When youre unvaccinated...there is nothing to limit replication. Which hurts others in several different ways but the main ones being....more replications...more chances to mutate. And also we then have to hope that infected person is careful not to spread to others. Honest question...how well do you think that last part is working out for everyone?

 

[tigermud]

I just witnessed one of the dumbest things I've heard anyone say imaginable. Sometimes I really do wonder if there is any hope for humanity at all. Some people are just so incredibility dumb.

paraphrasing. "Just recently tested positive", doo dee der de do, "now just waiting for symptoms to clear up so I can get my booster".

Holy balls. der der der I gots natural immunity now. hit me with a booster.

#stupefied.

 

[mhughes0021]

As they should have that right, and many businesses will say FU, and if Joe Bob's fear burger doesn't welcome me I'll take my business elsewhere. We can just medically segregate the country into vax'd and unvax'd if that makes you feel safer. The issue is when gumbit tries to tell everybody else what to do with one size fits all tyranny. There will be no end to that path and it leads to nothing good.

if theres 1 thing we can all agree on...the government already fucked this all up and should stay out of it at this point.

 

[tigermud]

if theres 1 thing we can all agree on...the government already fucked this all up and should stay out of it at this point.

Government is never the answer, it's sole duty should be to defend the country and leave law abiding citizens the fuck alone!

 

[tomdalton22]

Im not an expert by any means but its widely known that Vaccines reduce...but do not eliminate replication. We've seen this throughout history...rotavirus being an example.
Reduction is important to limit spread. All this probably goes out the window now cause Omicron is here and its infection rate is off the charts with not much protection from the vaccines we have available to us.

When youre unvaccinated...there is nothing to limit replication. Which hurts others in several different ways but the main ones being....more replications...more chances to mutate. And also we then have to hope that infected person is careful not to spread to others. Honest question...how well do you think that last part is working out for everyone?

well, we also know that this isn't a true vaccine.

 

[mhughes0021]

well, we also know that this isn't a true vaccine.

Sorry...forgot its a tracking device. My bad...

 

[tigermud]

Sorry...forgot its a tracking device. My bad...

it's not tracking device dufus it's a spike protein temporary immune system booster for viral infections treatment. Hence the reason you nee to keep getting boosters, untimely followed by pharma boondoggle twice year covid flu shots. The more peeps they can get to mandate it the higher the profits.

 

[Michchamp]

Government is never the answer, it's sole duty should be to defend the country and leave law abiding citizens the fuck alone!

The "law abiding" part also kind of requires government though. So maybe defending the country can't be a "sole duty."

So, you need law enforcement... cops, courts, judges, clerks, district attorneys, jails, prisons, correctional officers, wardens, parole officers, and all the office supplies and infrastructure they need to function. Paid for by... somebody. Taxes?

And of course, to be consistent, you don't drive on public roads, use the post office, have a driver's license, register your vehicle, use electricity (provided by heavily regulated industries to keep your price/kWh low, on wires and transmission lines laid out through government zoning and subsidies), drink municipal water, claim any sort of public assistance or welfare, including disabilities if you get injured doing whatever the hell you do, collect social security when you retire, etc. etc.

 

[mhughes0021]

it's not tracking device dufus it's a spike protein temporary immune system booster for viral infections treatment. Hence the reason you nee to keep getting boosters, untimely followed by pharma boondoggle twice year covid flu shots. The more peeps they can get to mandate it the higher the profits.

Yes weve been through all this already...
That kills all of the spike proteins....not allowing the virus to attach to cells. That worked perfectly well until Omicron...cause a majority of America wanted to cry about a vaccine and try their own research instead of comming up with feasible solutions to end the pandemic. And since no one got vaccinated...it mutated....and here the fuck we are....with little to no protection and the entire nation getting sick. Waiting for it to mutate again and crossing our fingers that it will continue to get more mild because thats what that 1 virus did that one time 100 years ago.

 

[Spartanmack]

fricking anti-science Belgians about to get themselves on Fauci's shit list. How long before a new strain originating in Belgium is discovered and Biden halts flights b/w our two countries?

Something tells me the myocarditis from the vaccine may have killed more than 2 people.

 

[Spartanmack]

The "law abiding" part also kind of requires government though. So maybe defending the country can't be a "sole duty."

So, you need law enforcement... cops, courts, judges, clerks, district attorneys, jails, prisons, correctional officers, wardens, parole officers, and all the office supplies and infrastructure they need to function. Paid for by... somebody. Taxes?

And of course, to be consistent, you don't drive on public roads, use the post office, have a driver's license, register your vehicle, use electricity (provided by heavily regulated industries to keep your price/kWh low, on wires and transmission lines laid out through government zoning and subsidies), drink municipal water, claim any sort of public assistance or welfare, including disabilities if you get injured doing whatever the hell you do, collect social security when you retire, etc. etc.

Clearly, we need socialism because we should all be getting our drinking water from the federal government.

 

[zyxt9]

Yes weve been through all this already...
That kills all of the spike proteins....not allowing the virus to attach to cells. That worked perfectly well until Omicron...cause a majority of America wanted to cry about a vaccine and try their own research instead of comming up with feasible solutions to end the pandemic. And since no one got vaccinated...it mutated....and here the fuck we are....with little to no protection and the entire nation getting sick. Waiting for it to mutate again and crossing our fingers that it will continue to get more mild because thats what that 1 virus did that one time 100 years ago.

Please remember that Omicron started outside of the US. Even if the US had been 100% vaccinated, Omicron would have ripped through the US. Less deaths in that scenario, I won't argue that, but stop blaming the American non-vaxxed for Omicron. It was going to spread regardless of percent vaxxed.

If you want to place blame, then Big Pharma MIGHT be an appropriate target since they focused on creating a Vax that only helped fighting one variant specifically. The Walter Reed team had a broader Pan-Covid approach that is yet to be released to the public, but if that had been created instead them it would have had a far greater chance of preventing Omicron, as well as Delta and ALL these variants that originated outside the US but eventually came here.

Blaming the non-vaxxed for spreading variants is a false narrative.

 

[zyxt9]

You could save yourself a lot of time by just writing "bla bla bla, words don't matter, I'm always right, no matter what I say, even if I conflict myself."

Provide the details of how I contradicted myself.

 

[mhughes0021]

Please remember that Omicron started outside of the US. Even if the US had been 100% vaccinated, Omicron would have ripped through the US. Less deaths in that scenario, I won't argue that, but stop blaming the American non-vaxxed for Omicron. It was going to spread regardless of percent vaxxed.

If you want to place blame, then Big Pharma MIGHT be an appropriate target since they focused on creating a Vax that only helped fighting one variant specifically. The Walter Reed team had a broader Pan-Covid approach that is yet to be released to the public, but if that had been created instead them it would have had a far greater chance of preventing Omicron, as well as Delta and ALL these variants that originated outside the US but eventually came here.

Blaming the non-vaxxed for spreading variants is a false narrative.

I'm not blaming the US on omicron. Although it's our fault it got here... don't want a strain to hit our nation.... then close off your borders. I can give 2 shits if people from south Africa can travel here. Someone said it's the govts job to protect their people... another colossal failure letting omicron get here from halfway around the globe.

It will more likely than not be the fault of an anti vaxer that new mutations and stains emerge.

 

[zyxt9]

I'm not blaming the US on omicron. Although it's our fault it got here... don't want a strain to hit our nation.... then close off your borders. I can give 2 shits if people from south Africa can travel here. Someone said it's the govts job to protect their people... another colossal failure letting omicron get here from halfway around the globe.

It will more likely than not be the fault of an anti vaxer that new mutations and stains emerge.

That is impossible to say since Omicron is able to infect vaxxed and unvaxxed, it could mutate in a vaxxed and then spread with potentially even more evasiveness as it would not mutate into a form the vax is effective against and survive.

The virus changes in both vaxxed and unvaxxed people. In vaxxed, mutations that get killed off by the vax do not spread whereas the ones that survive get to spread.... and the vax does not stop it.

Whereas an unvaxxed person does not have the vax for the virus to live or die off. Those mutations, it could be argued, are less likely to be the ones that lead to breakthrough cases because the mutations required to survive are far fewer.

The thing that stunned scientists with Omicron was its large number of mutations. Typically that would be due to something pushing it to become dramatically different, which may have been a person's natural immune system, or could possibly have been due to the vax. We will likely never know, but the argument could be made that Omicron mutated due to the need to survive against a vax.

That's kinda how Darwinism works, something pushes for larger changes and the biologic either adapts and survives or it does not.

 

[tomdalton22]

I'm not blaming the US on omicron. Although it's our fault it got here... don't want a strain to hit our nation.... then close off your borders. I can give 2 shits if people from south Africa can travel here. Someone said it's the govts job to protect their people... another colossal failure letting omicron get here from halfway around the globe.

It will more likely than not be the fault of an anti vaxer that new mutations and stains emerge.

how are you going to close the borders when thousands of people are walking across them every day?