Coronainsanity

[Spartanmack]

I'll take a guess... that R mayor you voted against was Bloomberg. I know King Mike ran as a Rep...then later changed to Ind and now is a Dem... but as mayor he was running as Rep. Such a fucking scumbag. He truly has no integrity.

It it was not King Mike that drove you to vote Dem (especially when he ran for that illegal 3rd term), I am curious who drove you to do it.

no but that's probably as good a guess as you could make - it was an even more local issue than that. I don't even remember her name - she was the Republican incumbent mayor of Summit, NJ. I voted against her because she voted in favor of an egregious variance relief request from an out of town builder when the variance was opposed by literally 100% of residents in the neighborhood of that property, including me.

The Democrat won and of course she sucks too (just pushed through full day Kindergarten and a bunch of other stupid policies) but it's not really our problem anymore - we moved a few towns over about a year ago. Democrats won the mayoral election and control of the town council here in 2018 but they've already lost the town council as of 2020 because they're immediately started pushing all the same woke PC garbage in the schools. If we're not able to reverse course on these trends in the schools, we'll probably move again before our kids are high school aged.

 

[Spartanmack]

I'll take a guess... that R mayor you voted against was Bloomberg. I know King Mike ran as a Rep...then later changed to Ind and now is a Dem... but as mayor he was running as Rep. Such a fucking scumbag. He truly has no integrity.

It it was not King Mike that drove you to vote Dem (especially when he ran for that illegal 3rd term), I am curious who drove you to do it.

Bloomberg was mayor for about 7 months when I moved to NYC - I don't recall who ran against him but he didn't start going nuts until later in his second term (iirc, that's when he started limiting soda sizes and going after straws) so I doubt I would have voted for the Dem against him for his second term. I definitely abstained for his 3rd (don't recall who he ran against for that one). We moved to NJ in Apr '10 but I definitely would have voted for the Gristedes guy over the Nazi in '13 if we were still around.

 

[tigermud]

from the article

"Vaccination and a booster still offer strong protection from serious illness, hospitalization and death"

So we're told, can you really quantify that though? I mean think about it, how does one really know if it did reduce or not. Example the doctors told him, that if not he would have, but how do they really know that?. That can't be proven, there is nothing to quantify that against.

http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=62821

 

[Michchamp]

Hospital capacity has not hit 100% FULL within any city to my knowledge, ...

"to my knowledge" ... LOL... you're too lazy to google three words (COVID + hospital + capacity), but still insist on spouting off an ignorant opinion.

like a page or two ago in this thread, someone mentioned MD's & VA's governors declaring emergencies because of hospital capacity.

A simple google search for hospital capacity in Maryland shows a lot of hospitals across the state are at capacity or over 100%, especially in more rural cities without multiple options.

Say maybe you could scroll one state down in the map from my link to try to look up what it's like in Virginia yourself?

 

[Spartanmack]

"to my knowledge" ... LOL... you're too lazy to google three words (COVID + hospital + capacity), but still insist on spouting off an ignorant opinion.

like a page or two ago in this thread, someone mentioned MD's & VA's governors declaring emergencies because of hospital capacity.

A simple google search for hospital capacity in Maryland shows a lot of hospitals across the state are at capacity or over 100%, especially in more rural cities without multiple options.

Say maybe you could scroll one state down in the map from my link to try to look up what it's like in Virginia yourself?

LOL, of the whopping 4 hospitals above capacity 3 are tiny little hospitals that have less than 200 total beds and 1 of those has less than 100. The majority of hospital systems are well below capacity and those with 1,000 beds or more are below 80% of capacity. But zyxt said there were none that he was aware of, so I guess you win the internets again. The sky is falling!!! Thanks chicken little.

 

[tomdalton22]

So we're told, can you really quantify that though? I mean think about it, how does one really know if it did reduce or not. Example the doctors told him, that if not he would have, but how do they really know that?. That can't be proven, there is nothing to quantify that against.

http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=62821

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/...eaths-by-vaccination-status?country=~All+ages

 

[tigermud]

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/...eaths-by-vaccination-status?country=~All+ages

Deaths: A COVID-19?associated death occurred in a person with a documented COVID-19 diagnosis who died; health department staff reviewed to make a determination using vital records, public health investigation, or other data sources.


With or of? :shrug:

 

[zyxt9]

Bloomberg was mayor for about 7 months when I moved to NYC - I don't recall who ran against him but he didn't start going nuts until later in his second term (iirc, that's when he started limiting soda sizes and going after straws) so I doubt I would have voted for the Dem against him for his second term. I definitely abstained for his 3rd (don't recall who he ran against for that one). We moved to NJ in Apr '10 but I definitely would have voted for the Gristedes guy over the Nazi in '13 if we were still around.

Yeah, King Mike's Reign of Terror didn't begin until his 2nd term started. The soda sizes, straps, legal gun restrictions, the changes to Manhattan traffic so he could implement City Bikes that no one used while his blocking of streets added to congestion (of course that was part of the plan to forc3 people to use the bikes), taxing people for simply owning a car in Manhattan... so many ways he went crazy. He honestly should have been seen by a doctor for potential brain tumor with how much he changed.

All that was bad enough, but changing the laws so he could run for a 3rd term was just way over the top. He deserved to be removed from office for even attempting to do it.

Not that Ol' Bill didn't make things even worse, but term limits should never be altered toward extending them by the person currently in power. That's just too damn authoritarian. Honestly, I view that as being even worse than the vax mandates in terms of abuse of power.

 

[tomdalton22]

Deaths: A COVID-19?associated death occurred in a person with a documented COVID-19 diagnosis who died; health department staff reviewed to make a determination using vital records, public health investigation, or other data sources.


With or of? :shrug:

even if you think they are cooking the books a little...the graph is telling. Death rate is significantly higher for the non vaccinated

 

[zyxt9]

"to my knowledge" ... LOL... you're too lazy to google three words (COVID + hospital + capacity), but still insist on spouting off an ignorant opinion.

like a page or two ago in this thread, someone mentioned MD's & VA's governors declaring emergencies because of hospital capacity.

A simple google search for hospital capacity in Maryland shows a lot of hospitals across the state are at capacity or over 100%, especially in more rural cities without multiple options.

Say maybe you could scroll one state down in the map from my link to try to look up what it's like in Virginia yourself?

I was clearly saying cities are not at 100%, I never said individual hospitals are not at 100%. There were news reports last year about patients being redirected due to individual hospitals being over 100% capacity, I never claimed that would not be the case with current spike.

Small hospitals have been known to reach 100% capacity even before Covid.

You demand I do more research, my argument is that the media would have reported it ad nauseum if, say... Houston... was at 100% capacity. I do not need to scroll through what you demand to recognize that a few hospitals are at 100% because I never claimed differently, nor would I need to research a city that was at 100% because the media would be all over that and it would be near impossible for you to not post about it.

 

[tigermud]

even if you think they are cooking the books a little...the graph is telling. Death rate is significantly higher for the non vaccinated

probably. but that's the choice each of us should always be allowed to make on our own and the jury is still out on any long term vaccine side effects. 5-6 years out..

 

[Michchamp]

probably. but that's the choice each of us should always be allowed to make on our own and the jury is still out on any long term vaccine side effects. 5-6 years out..

Are there any other medications or vaccines that have caused long term side effects like that, with such a small amount given 2/3 times?

Seems like more made up shit.

All this caution around a vaccine that hundreds of millions of people have taken, and yet you oppose all precautions for a highly contagious virus that HAS killed millions of people, and left many more millions very sick, possibly with long term health complications, which IS something we've documented that viral infections can do.

Such stupidity. But I suppose it's your right to be stupid, ignore evidence, make up your own... and then if you DO get really sick, know those same doctors and nurses will have to treat your stupid ass whether they like it or not.

 

[Michchamp]

I was clearly saying cities are not at 100%, I never said individual hospitals are not at 100%. There were news reports last year about patients being redirected due to individual hospitals being over 100% capacity, I never claimed that would not be the case with current spike.

Small hospitals have been known to reach 100% capacity even before Covid.

You demand I do more research, my argument is that the media would have reported it ad nauseum if, say... Houston... was at 100% capacity. I do not need to scroll through what you demand to recognize that a few hospitals are at 100% because I never claimed differently, nor would I need to research a city that was at 100% because the media would be all over that and it would be near impossible for you to not post about it.

You could save yourself a lot of time by just writing "bla bla bla, words don't matter, I'm always right, no matter what I say, even if I conflict myself."

 

[tigermud]

Are there any other medications or vaccines that have caused long term side effects like that, with such a small amount given 2/3 times?

Seems like more made up shit.

All this caution around a vaccine that hundreds of millions of people have taken, and yet you oppose all precautions for a highly contagious virus that HAS killed millions of people, and left many more millions very sick, possibly with long term health complications, which IS something we've documented that viral infections can do.

Such stupidity. But I suppose it's your right to be stupid, ignore evidence, make up your own... and then if you DO get really sick, know those same doctors and nurses will have to treat your stupid ass whether they like it or not.

oppose all precautions? You sir are full of shit.

If you're sick stay home, eat healthy, exercise, get sun. Supplement up the hilt.

 

[tomdalton22]

Such stupidity. But I suppose it's your right to be stupid, ignore evidence, make up your own... and then if you DO get really sick, know those same doctors and nurses will have to treat your stupid ass whether they like it or not.

this really isn't a good argument. Doctors and nurses have always treated people for the stupid shit that they do....whether they like it or not.

 

[Michchamp]

this really isn't a good argument. Doctors and nurses have always treated people for the stupid shit that they do....whether they like it or not.

usually there aren't that many people doing stupid shit at the same and all filling up the hospitals

 

[Spartanmack]

usually there aren't that many people doing stupid shit at the same and all filling up the hospitals

as the piece you posted indicates, that's not happening now either. Remember in the first year of COVID when the government built all those temporary pop up hospitals in big cities that never got used? Of course you do, but blah, blah, blah, words don't matter, you can just make up whatever you want and pretend you're not a mindless sheep.

 

[tomdalton22]

probably. but that's the choice each of us should always be allowed to make on our own and the jury is still out on any long term vaccine side effects. 5-6 years out..

I don't think anyone here is arguing for vaccine mandates

 

[mhughes0021]

but that's the choice each of us should always be allowed to make on our own and the jury is still out on any long term vaccine side effects. 5-6 years out..

not true. Businesses can tell their employees to do whatever they want. Places of business can decide to serve whoever they want. Insurance companies can decide to cover...whoever they want.

The jury is also out on how fucked up people will be that got covid...based on people on this board that got it....It ATLEAST causes major CTE.

 

[mhughes0021]

Are there any other medications or vaccines that have caused long term side effects like that, with such a small amount given 2/3 times?

Seems like more made up shit.

All this caution around a vaccine that hundreds of millions of people have taken, and yet you oppose all precautions for a highly contagious virus that HAS killed millions of people, and left many more millions very sick, possibly with long term health complications, which IS something we've documented that viral infections can do.

Such stupidity. But I suppose it's your right to be stupid, ignore evidence, make up your own... and then if you DO get really sick, know those same doctors and nurses will have to treat your stupid ass whether they like it or not.

Perfect example is the public freaking out that like 2 people died from the Vaccine due to Myocardits. Yet, they give 0 fucks about the 10s of thousands that died from Covid causing Myocarditis. Yet..they will ALL tell you that they are being safe and not putting anyone in danger lol. Dumbasses....