Coronainsanity

[tinselwolverine]

Wishful thinking if you think hundreds of millions of people getting a virus in the next 30 days will equate to mutations that are less deadly than omicron. Literally all the next virus has to do is be as contagious as omicron but infect the lower lungs again... and poof.... more deaths.

You could literally really use a hobby.

 

[mhughes0021]

You could literally really use a hobby.

I have plenty of hobbies.... I'm just not ignorant and think this virus is just going to up and go away cause people are tired of it lol. People are so fucking dumb.

 

[tigermud]

I have plenty of hobbies.... I'm just not ignorant and think this virus is just going to up and go away cause people are tired of it lol. People are so fucking dumb.

Spanish flu up and mutated into co-existence in about 27 months, try research as a hobby so that you may be more able to make informed thoughts instead of being an MSDNC parrot

 

[tigermud]

No cheering allowed just sit there with your face muzzle on and hail the poo bear

https://nypost.com/2022/01/15/china-aims-for-zero-covid-winter-olympics-bans-cheering/

 

[mhughes0021]

Spanish flu up and mutated into co-existence in about 27 months, try research as a hobby so that you may be more able to make informed thoughts instead of being an MSDNC parrot

Using 1 virus from 100s of years ago lol....wow.... this is why.

I got one for you that you can look up. Measles. Highly contagious.... was the most contagious until omicron came around. Has NEVER gone away. Only contained through vaccination.

Meanwhile coronavirus has mutated 100s of times already in a couple of years. Is more prevalent then ever.... and it's just going to Spanish flu the fuck out of here? Lmao...people...

 

[zyxt9]

Sure seems like Omicron is doing what we hoped, appears the major spike is on the backend now as new cases appear to be dropping rapidly.

 

[zyxt9]

At this time New Deaths is dropping in South Africa and appear to be declining in UK as well at this point. US should begin seeing decline in about 2 weeks based on New Cases dropping.

 

[Michchamp]

The article says exactly what I posted that it says.

There is a picture of the virus that looks kind of blue? Some verbiage in between, and then there?s a picture of the virus that looks kind of brown. Right above the kind of brown picture there is a sentence that begins ?experts say??. and it goes on to literally say that while Omicron appears to be less deadly, because of the contagiousness it will result in more deaths, providing 0 data to support that claim.

Are you clicking the wrong article, or just fucking with me? I'll cut and paste directly from the article:

The idea that infections tend to become less lethal over time was first proposed by notable bacteriologist Dr. Theobald Smith in the late 1800s. His theory about pathogen evolution was later dubbed the "law of declining virulence."

Simple and elegant, Smith's theory was that to ensure their own survival, pathogens evolve to stop killing their human hosts. Instead, they create only a mild infection, allowing people to walk around, spreading the virus further afield. Good for the virus, and, arguably, good for us.

But over the past 100 years, virologists have learned that virus evolution is more chaotic. Virus evolution is a game of chance, and less about grand design.

In some cases, viruses evolve to become more virulent.
Continued virus survival, spread and virulence are all about the evolutionary pressures of multiple factors, including the number of people available to infect, how long humans live after infection, the immune system response and time between infection and symptom onset. Unfortunately, that means it's nearly impossible to predict the future of the pandemic, because viruses don't always evolve in a predictable pattern.
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SO yeah. Anyone asserting viruses always - or even often - evolve to become less virulent needs to produce evidence supporting this claim, and there is none. THey're just referencing pure speculation from a theory that's over 100 years old.

No one knows what a virus will evolve to do... it's pure chance.

Using 1 virus from 100s of years ago lol....wow.... this is why.

I got one for you that you can look up. Measles. Highly contagious.... was the most contagious until omicron came around. Has NEVER gone away. Only contained through vaccination.

Meanwhile coronavirus has mutated 100s of times already in a couple of years. Is more prevalent then ever.... and it's just going to Spanish flu the fuck out of here? Lmao...people...

Measles isn't maybe the best example, since it's always had a low mortality rate, and mortality is limited to kids under 5. And those vaccines were developed by science for the benefit of humanity, not by greedy MBAs at large pharmaceutical corporations, looking for a way to profit.

If we're looking at Spanish Flu as a historical example though, looks like their were 4 waves of it before it kinda petered out. We're on wave #4 right now!

The wikipedia article isn't very detailed about the end of the 1918 Pandemic:

By 1920, the virus that caused the pandemic became much less deadly and caused only ordinary seasonal flu.
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Like... that's it, I guess? Just wait it out.

Also, probably like the Spanish Flu, once this ends, we'll have several years of neurological disorders and secondary infections caused by COVID-19 to hit to look forward too. But I'm sure we'll just wave those off and scoff at anyone who links the two together.

But even if you have the view that there's nothing we can do that will stop a viral pandemic, I think the smart, humane, decent, Christian approach is still to attempt to limit the spread, saving lives and minimizing the number of sick. Curbing the spread until a less virulent strain becomes prevalent and outcompetes the more lethal variants could add up to additional years of average lifespan for your country, save 100,000's or millions of lives, and set a good precedent for how you yourself will be treated when you're elderly and vulnerable to disease.

But the alternative approach seems to have won out, and will probably win out next time, for better or worse: who fucking cares? People die and get sick all the time. STFU and GBTW.

 

[Michchamp]

At this time New Deaths is dropping in South Africa and appear to be declining in UK as well at this point. US should begin seeing decline in about 2 weeks based on New Cases dropping.

probably. that seems to be how things go with this. waves of new infections that eventually level off, along with hospitalizations and deaths (in that order).

but it's not like you'd urge lockdowns, mask mandates, or any different course of action if the deaths were going up, so you probably wouldn't care even if more people were dying.

 

[tinselwolverine]

Using 1 virus from 100s of years ago lol....wow.... this is why.

I got one for you that you can look up. Measles. Highly contagious.... was the most contagious until omicron came around. Has NEVER gone away. Only contained through vaccination.

Meanwhile coronavirus has mutated 100s of times already in a couple of years. Is more prevalent then ever.... and it's just going to Spanish flu the fuck out of here? Lmao...people...

Try learning math as a hobby too?1917 was not 100s of years ago.

I got the measles in the early 60s before the vacc was widespread. Everyone my age I knew got it. We all made it through somehow.

Anyway I sense you?re back to trolling now. Have a nice day.

 

[Gulo Blue]

At this time New Deaths is dropping in South Africa and appear to be declining in UK as well at this point. US should begin seeing decline in about 2 weeks based on New Cases dropping.

Where are you getting your numbers? That's not what I see here: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

The death/case ratio you love to focus on is lower, but deaths per day are still slowly climbing, not dropping.

edit: deaths per day" to be clear

 

[mhughes0021]

Try learning math as a hobby too?1917 was not 100s of years ago.

I got the measles in the early 60s before the vacc was widespread. Everyone my age I knew got it. We all made it through somehow.

Anyway I sense you?re back to trolling now. Have a nice day.

was i talking about deaths? chiming in talking about something completely different.....so whos the troll now?

He had mentioned a virus that went away one day...cause apparently thats what hes hoping corona will do. I simply gave him an example of one that didnt....and its managed by way of....wait for it.....vaccinations!!!!

 

[tinselwolverine]

was i talking about deaths? chiming in talking about something completely different.....so whos the troll now?

He had mentioned a virus that went away one day...cause apparently thats what hes hoping corona will do. I simply gave him an example of one that didnt....and its managed by way of....wait for it.....vaccinations!!!!

Of course you were. Long at #5180, a few posts back for you.

Nothing but death and mayhem.

I figured out your hobby - it?s trolling this board.

 

[mhughes0021]

Of course you were. Long at #5180, a few posts back for you.

Nothing but death and mayhem.

I figured out your hobby - it?s trolling this board.

You corrected me saying 105 years is not hundreds....whos the troll? Or maybe you have dementia and are stuck in the 1960s? Next youll correct me for punctuation.

Take a look at the youll up above....perfect time for your next troll move! Dont miss out!

 

[zyxt9]

Where are you getting your numbers? That's not what I see here: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

The death/case ratio you love to focus on is lower, but total death rates are still slowly climbing, not dropping.

While I'm sure you would prefer my numbers originate from a Conservative source, I simply do a Google search on "covid cases" which pulls up data that, to my knowledge, is from the NY Times which THIS particular data they appear to have pulled from John's Hopkins.

When I selected South Africa and Deaths as filters, it shows a decline from the peak. With the UK there is an apparent decline happening, but at this point is admittedly an apparent decline, we will see better next week if it is in fact a decline. As for the US, I am stating a hypothesis that based on how the data for Deaths lags New Cases by at least 2 weeks that in about 2 weeks we will see a decline in US Deaths.

 

[Michchamp]

... As for the US, I am stating a hypothesis that based on how the data for Deaths lags New Cases by at least 2 weeks that in about 2 weeks we will see a decline in US Deaths.

that part makes sense, except for the question of whether there really is a drop in deaths in SA or not

 

[zyxt9]

probably. that seems to be how things go with this. waves of new infections that eventually level off, along with hospitalizations and deaths (in that order).

but it's not like you'd urge lockdowns, mask mandates, or any different course of action if the deaths were going up, so you probably wouldn't care even if more people were dying.

Death is part of life and Darwinism is a scientifically understood component in why some will die when many others survive.

I'm not "good" with it, but I am at peace with it. It is a natural phenomenon. Throughout all of history, every lifeform has encountered things that cause periodic increases in death rates, sometimes those have been due to diseases, sometimes from various other phenomenon.

It is literally about as scientific as one can be about all this. There is no escaping death, at least not yet. Now, some have faith that lends to a belief that there is life after death while others believe death is completely final. Typically the ones with faith are at peace while those who lack faith...are not.

 

[Spartanmack]

Good to know our tax dollars are being so well managed and wisely spent. I guess it's true, the government isn't any more wasteful or less efficient than the private sector. I'm sure these clowns who failed in multiple businesses when they had to deal with the private sector would have been able to generate this kind of wealth overnight without a government client to fork over $10s of millions of dollars with nearly zero oversight almost over night.

 

[zyxt9]

that part makes sense, except for the question of whether there really is a drop in deaths in SA or not

My analysis was in looking at the 7 day average, which has dropped from 180 down to 130 and latest Daily Deaths number being 86. So there is a drop in numbers over the past week. That lines up with what happened during prior spikes in terms of 2 week post spike not only in Sputh Africa but everywhere. By next week I am of the opinion the 7 day average will be below 100, quite possibly below 75, while new deaths will be under 50. That's just a hypothetical projection on my part based on the dataset's current trends.

 

[mhughes0021]

that part makes sense, except for the question of whether there really is a drop in deaths in SA or not

not to mention we have a MUCH larger population for Omicron to burn through compared to an itty bity country like South Africa. It should take longer to cycle thru everyone.

If vaccination has any impact on death rate for omicron south africas population has a rather low vaccination rate. So IFFFFF vaccination provides protection against severe illness...we should be in better shape than they were.

Im in your camp...except ill take out the religious part of it. The human thing to do is to protect other humans right now. Cause we're not going to stop this wave....not seeing any signs people will stop the future waves either. Corona needs to make peoples dicks fall off before they will take action.