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Romney and Manchin are both in the wrong party, they should both just switch and call it a day

Why? The biggest problem in politics is that there is hardly anyone who will do what they think is in the best interest of their constituents, instead just falling in to lockstep with the party line, or face the wrath of the RNC/DNC.

 

[tigermud]

Why? The biggest problem in politics is that there is hardly anyone who will do what they think is in the best interest of their constituents, instead just falling in to lockstep with the party line, or face the wrath of the RNC/DNC.

Good point

 

[tigermud]

The Silencing of the Scientists

Early in the Covid pandemic, Michael Levitt noticed a gradual decay of case growth rates over time in Wuhan, and many dismissed or ignored his observations on account of what they viewed were improper credentials and unconventional mathematical methods (Gompertz curves, as opposed to conventional compartmental models in epidemiology).

Some researchers went so far as to call Michael Levitt?s work ?lethal nonsense,? saying he was being an irresponsible member of the scientific community by not being an epidemiologist and presenting work that Levitt?s critics believed downplayed the coronavirus.

https://brownstone.org/articles/the-silencing-of-the-scientists/

 

[Gulo Blue]

The Silencing of the Scientists

Early in the Covid pandemic, Michael Levitt noticed a gradual decay of case growth rates over time in Wuhan, and many dismissed or ignored his observations on account of what they viewed were improper credentials and unconventional mathematical methods (Gompertz curves, as opposed to conventional compartmental models in epidemiology).

Some researchers went so far as to call Michael Levitt?s work ?lethal nonsense,? saying he was being an irresponsible member of the scientific community by not being an epidemiologist and presenting work that Levitt?s critics believed downplayed the coronavirus.

https://brownstone.org/articles/the-silencing-of-the-scientists/

Gradual decay of growth rates? It's gone up and down with different variants. What kind of flat Earth theory is supposedly suppressed this time? There's zero long-term significance whether you pick a Gompertz curve or a Lorentzian or a Gaussian - real word data probably will never be known with enough accuracy to tell the difference.

 

[Spartanmack]

Unintended consequences be damned - literally everyone must be locked down and masked including kids who aren't at risk from this virus.

but of course, according to a couple posters here, we didn't actually lock down or do anything really to stop the spread so this massive spike in alcohol related deaths that killed more people under 65 than COVID has to be caused by something else - it's certainly not the fault of the obviously well-intentioned policy that was never really implemented.

 

[Spartanmack]

Hmmm... CDC quietly lowers death count by over 70,000 and revises pediatric COVID deaths down by 24% to 1,341 (~.25% of all COVID fatalities).

Link.

I'm sure this will probably, most likely definitely the last revision, so we can absolutely probably trust these revised numbers.

 

[Michchamp]

Hmmm... CDC quietly lowers death count by over 70,000 and revises pediatric COVID deaths down by 24% to 1,341 (~.25% of all COVID fatalities).

Link.

I'm sure this will probably, most likely definitely the last revision, so we can absolutely probably trust these revised numbers.

I guess because we were getting too close to a million, and it's an election year.

But you guys were right! They were overcounting deaths, and so COVID isn't that bad, like you were saying. Only 920,000 Americans have died from it (officially) instead of 997,000 like yesterday. No big deal, pussies!

 

[tinselwolverine]

I guess because we were getting too close to a million, and it's an election year.

But you guys were right! They were overcounting deaths, and so COVID isn't that bad, like you were saying. Only 920,000 Americans have died from it (officially) instead of 997,000 like yesterday. No big deal, pussies!

You do know they were all going to die of something someday, don?t you?

 

[Spartanmack]

I guess because we were getting too close to a million, and it's an election year.

But you guys were right! They were overcounting deaths, and so COVID isn't that bad, like you were saying. Only 920,000 Americans have died from it (officially) instead of 997,000 like yesterday. No big deal, pussies!

 

[tigermud]

That guy again
https://youtu.be/heNn-Eya4os

 

[Gulo Blue]

You do know they were all going to die of something someday, don?t you?

Too much perspective. I still want to care whether or not Michigan beats Ohio State. Not worrying about anybody dying kind of takes the argument out of everything.

 

[Michchamp]

Nobody posted an update when the U.S. crossed a million COVID deaths... 1/6 of all COVID deaths are American, leading the rest of the world by a lot, with our deaths and death rate off the charts in proportion to our percent of world population.


USA USA! If you want to live in a country with a pathological disregard for the health and safety of its people, you're in the right place!

 

[tomdalton22]

Nobody posted an update when the U.S. crossed a million COVID deaths... 1/6 of all COVID deaths are American, leading the rest of the world by a lot, with our deaths and death rate off the charts in proportion to our percent of world population.


USA USA! If you want to live in a country with a pathological disregard for the health and safety of its people, you're in the right place!

China only has about 4600 deaths. They must be the best country in the world!

 

[tinselwolverine]

Nobody posted an update when the U.S. crossed a million COVID deaths... 1/6 of all COVID deaths are American, leading the rest of the world by a lot, with our deaths and death rate off the charts in proportion to our percent of world population.


USA USA! If you want to live in a country with a pathological disregard for the health and safety of its people, you're in the right place!

I think people in this country actually have more of a pathological disregard for themselves.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Qp3gy_CLXho

 

[Spartanmack]

Wait a minute, I thought Republicans and their policies were the ones that put everyone at risk and made the pandemic sooooo much worse...this seems to contradict what mc has been telling us (crying) about for a couple of years now. I'm shocked.

 

[tomdalton22]

Wait a minute, I thought Republicans and their policies were the ones that put everyone at risk and made the pandemic sooooo much worse...this seems to contradict what mc has been telling us (crying) about for a couple of years now. I'm shocked.

to be fair there are such huge differences in states regarding population, population density, having large cities, etc. that this study really isn't comparing apples to apples. Also, I don't see why in-school learning is given equal weight in this study.

 

[Spartanmack]

to be fair there are such huge differences in states regarding population, population density, having large cities, etc. that this study really isn't comparing apples to apples. Also, I don't see why in-school learning is given equal weight in this study.

the four most populous states are California, Texas, Florida and New York. 2 Republican and 2 Democrat states. All states have the bulk of their population concentrated around urban areas. Demographically, New York is a lot like Florida including the percentage of elderly among the population (Florida's is a bit higher) and they're on opposite ends of the outcome spectrum. Differences in demographics and urban populations don't explain nearly as much of the outcome differences as policy does.

In-school learning is given equal weight because of the lack of it having a devastating impact on outcomes for children. It's one of the worst unintended consequences of COVID policy.

 

[tomdalton22]

the four most populous states are California, Texas, Florida and New York. 2 Republican and 2 Democrat states. All states have the bulk of their population concentrated around urban areas. Demographically, New York is a lot like Florida including the percentage of elderly among the population (Florida's is a bit higher) and they're on opposite ends of the outcome spectrum. Differences in demographics and urban populations don't explain nearly as much of the outcome differences as policy does.

In-school learning is given equal weight because of the lack of it having a devastating impact on outcomes for children. It's one of the worst unintended consequences of COVID policy.

I think it's way overblown. Even your choice of words...devastating impact. For a kid...it's a speed bump. I would argue that the financial impact on some families that had to take care of their kid/not able to work had a bigger impact than the kid actually remote learning for a little while.

 

[sggatecl]

So this 'report card' is based on:

• How quickly people were rushed back to work.
  
• How quickly kids were packed back into schools.
  
• How many Covid deaths there were (reported).

I'm shocked by the results of this Ben Shapiro reported, Steve Forbes funded 'study'. Absolutely shocked.

 

[Spartanmack]

So this 'report card' is based on:

• How quickly people were rushed back to work.
  
• How quickly kids were packed back into schools.
  
• How many Covid deaths there were (reported).

I'm shocked by the results of this Ben Shapiro reported, Steve Forbes funded 'study'. Absolutely shocked.

Yeah, you bring up some really good points except they're either wrong (economic impact was measured by unemployment and GDP) or silly (do you have a better metric than reported COVID deaths?) And what's wrong with measuring in person education? Especially if it's clear returning to school didn't drive up reported COVID deaths? And also clear that not returning to in-person instruction had serious negative impact on academics, social development and mental health? Is this one of those things that doesn't matter because you don't have kids?

Thinking about it though, I guess it probably would be so much more reliable if it was funded by the CDC and reported on by the major networks, CNN and MSNBC - they've all really nailed this COVID thing from the jump. This might go down as the best "gotcha" post ever. Hope you didn't break your mic when you dropped it.

When you can't refute the message, attack the messenger.