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Coronainsanity

Just calling out shitty sources and data as I see it. You can hate the CDC all you want but it's better than this trash.

I don't try to have "gotcha moments" with Covid related material as everyone has made up their mind long ago and works never, ever admit if they were wrong. That was proven on this very thread many, many pages ago.
 
I anxiously await the drastic improvements in education metrics that must be inevitable from these schools in the "top 10" like Arkansas and Louisiana.
 
Just calling out shitty sources and data as I see it. You can hate the CDC all you want but it's better than this trash.

I don't try to have "gotcha moments" with Covid related material as everyone has made up their mind long ago and works never, ever admit if they were wrong. That was proven on this very thread many, many pages ago.

how is it a shitty source? The article references a study that uses data from the CDC.

I don't hate the CDC, I just don't trust an organization that's so deeply tied to big pharma. I find it interesting though that people that say it's better than the "trash" that's using their data to demonstrate that the more free/open states had much better results than those with the strictest lockdowns. Even if you choose the lockdown state with the best outcomes, they're death count and rate was no better than Floridas. That's telling and to dismiss it offhand is trash only demonstrates your own bias.
 
I anxiously await the drastic improvements in education metrics that must be inevitable from these schools in the "top 10" like Arkansas and Louisiana.

Improvements? The issue here is lost ground in the states with extended lockouts for students. Children in those schools are already demonstrating major decreases in test scores across the board. Even the leftists that run those schools are saying it will take years to catch up from the lockdowns. You don't even have to read the Daily Wire to confirm that.
 
So this 'report card' is based on:

  • How quickly people were rushed back to work.
  • How quickly kids were packed back into schools.
  • How many Covid deaths there were (reported).

I'm shocked by the results of this Ben Shapiro reported, Steve Forbes funded 'study'. Absolutely shocked.


Just calling out shitty sources and data as I see it. You can hate the CDC all you want but it's better than this trash.

I don't try to have "gotcha moments" with Covid related material as everyone has made up their mind long ago and works never, ever admit if they were wrong. That was proven on this very thread many, many pages ago.

Bob had it right all the way back in post #3??it?s an over reaction?they?re acting like it?s the pandemic from the movie Contagion??

I didn?t read the article - based on the posts about it, it corroborates what I?ve been saying for two years.

I was way ahead of Ben Shapiro in figuring this one out. I was ahead of almost everyone.

I agree with you - some people will never admit how wrong they were.

I also agree with you about people being rushed back to work and kids being rushed back to school. Except for those at risk - we knew from the beginning EXACTLY who they were - nobody should have left.

I didn?t leave.

I knew from the FACTS and the data I had very little to fear.

More and more people are coming to realize how horribly - really, negligently criminally - this was all handled.

History will show that I - and the other people who paid attention to the facts and the data - was/were right.
 
I think it's way overblown. Even your choice of words...devastating impact. For a kid...it's a speed bump. I would argue that the financial impact on some families that had to take care of their kid/not able to work had a bigger impact than the kid actually remote learning for a little while.

I don?t know that our friend SpartanMack is describing the kids coping socially/emotionally with the changes as being devastating, although he can clarify that for himself. I think he is talking about the impact on learning, which none less than the Brookings Institute - hardly the Daily Wire - literally describes as devastating.
 
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I don?t know that our friend SpartanMack is describing the kids coping socially/emotionally with the changes as being devastating, although he can clarify that for himself. I think he is talking about the impact on learning, which none less than the Brookings Institute - hardly the Daily Wire - literally describes as devastating.

a little from column A and a little from column B. I think the academic impact is huge, so is the social/emotional/psychological impact.
 
There is some good news on the Covid front; I met this brave heroine of the California lockdown resistance; you guys may remember her story made national news once upon a time.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_cYPm__73XI

She gave me a big old hug and asked me to pose for a picture with her.

Can ya believe that? She asked me?
 
There is some good news on the Covid front; I met this brave heroine of the California lockdown resistance; you guys may remember her story made national news once upon a time.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_cYPm__73XI

She gave me a big old hug and asked me to pose for a picture with her.

Can ya believe that? She asked me?

I'm a little confused. It looks like her tent has a similar set up as the other tent? What is she complaining about?
 
I'm a little confused. It looks like her tent has a similar set up as the other tent? What is she complaining about?

That?s the point. The Hollywood production company was allowed to cater their shoot, but the government did not allow her to operate with nearly exactly the same set up.
 
Bob had it right all the way back in post #3??it?s an over reaction?they?re acting like it?s the pandemic from the movie Contagion??

I didn?t read the article - based on the posts about it, it corroborates what I?ve been saying for two years.

I was way ahead of Ben Shapiro in figuring this one out. I was ahead of almost everyone.

I agree with you - some people will never admit how wrong they were.

I also agree with you about people being rushed back to work and kids being rushed back to school. Except for those at risk - we knew from the beginning EXACTLY who they were - nobody should have left.

I didn?t leave.

I knew from the FACTS and the data I had very little to fear.

More and more people are coming to realize how horribly - really, negligently criminally - this was all handled.

History will show that I - and the other people who paid attention to the facts and the data - was/were right.

I would like to respond to this but Mack would just call it 'virtue signaling'. It's a large part of why I've mostly stayed out of this thread the last few months. I regret dipping my toes back in and interrupting all the back patting. Carry on.
 
I would like to respond to this but Mack would just call it 'virtue signaling'. It's a large part of why I've mostly stayed out of this thread the last few months. I regret dipping my toes back in and interrupting all the back patting. Carry on.

+1 infinity
 
I would like to respond to this but Mack would just call it 'virtue signaling.

So what?

Watch the video I posted in #5888 and tell me how Angela is wrong.

EDIT: Tell me how what the state did to Angela wasn?t morally criminal?
 
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I would like to respond to this but Mack would just call it 'virtue signaling'. It's a large part of why I've mostly stayed out of this thread the last few months. I regret dipping my toes back in and interrupting all the back patting. Carry on.

Just to be clear, I posted an article with a link to a study using data from your preferred source (the CDC). You responded by attacking the source of the article and the study, saying you trust the CDC way more than the Daily Wire or Steve Forbes. I pointed out that the study used data from the CDC (your preferred source) so now your excuse for not making a substantive response is that I would dismiss it off-hand as virtue signaling? Twice you've failed to make a case against the study other than to attack the source and you're accusing me (pre-emptively) of dismissing the argument you won't make as "virtue signaling." That's good stuff.

Thumb agrees with you though, so there's that.
 
Just to be clear, I posted an article with a link to a study using data from your preferred source (the CDC). You responded by attacking the source of the article and the study, saying you trust the CDC way more than the Daily Wire or Steve Forbes. I pointed out that the study used data from the CDC (your preferred source) so now your excuse for not making a substantive response is that I would dismiss it off-hand as virtue signaling? Twice you've failed to make a case against the study other than to attack the source and you're accusing me (pre-emptively) of dismissing the argument you won't make as "virtue signaling." That's good stuff.

Thumb agrees with you though, so there's that.

To be fair - or at least accurate - he never said the CDC was his "preferred source" just that he considered it better than the Daily Wire (which is admittedly a low bar). And just because the Daily Wire cited some Astroturfed pro-business PR group that "used the CDC data" doesn't mean the data supports the conclusions their "study" jumps to. Was their study published in an actual medical journal and has it been peer-reviewed and commented favorably on by actual doctors and public health professionals? If it was, by all means, include a link to that, and I'll read it.

if you take away the fact that you misquoted him, and re-framed his entire point to say what you want it to say, and cited a bullshit, pro-business "study" no reasonable person in 2022 would even bother to consider in the first place, I don't think you've actually provided anything of substance worth commenting on here, and you should be happy he even deigned to respond to your post in the first place. You should thank him for giving you attention.

I would like to respond to this but Mack would just call it 'virtue signaling'. It's a large part of why I've mostly stayed out of this thread the last few months. I regret dipping my toes back in and interrupting all the back patting. Carry on.

What gets me is the fact that you really have to bash your head against the wall a couple times in order to "think" any of this makes sense.

We KNOW we're dealing with an airborne respiratory virus that spreads, almost entirely, through aerosols. And to a lesser extent, airborne droplets, and possibly also through infected surfaces, but that's very rare.

And yet people can somehow believe that nothing we do to limit the infected air people breathe - limiting indoor events, requiring masks, social distancing - helps limit the spread and therefore hospitalizations or death. And in fact, if you do NOTHING, and encourage people not to wear masks and mingle indoors, you'll actually somehow get better results than places that do. For fucksakes how is that even possible?

And then all the bullshit goal-post moving arguments ...

"It's not that serious"
OVER A MILLION HAVE DIED

"Those numbers are fake"
OKAY BY HOW MUCH?

"Doesn't matter, they would die anyway"

And so on, and so on...
 
To be clear and to be fair and to be accurate, the Daily Wire had nothing to do with the study except that they published the findings, just like numerous other publications did - a simple search for Committee to Unleash Prosperity Covid Study will show this.

The results of the study are data driven and accurate; again, primarily sourced to data from the CDC itself. If it isn?t, I challenge anyone to present a data driven report that disputes it.

I?m also waiting for anybody to look at the video in #5888 and tell me how Angela is wrong, and how what the state did to her wasn?t/isn?t morally criminal.

History will show that I was and I am right.
 
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We KNOW we're dealing with an airborne respiratory virus that spreads, almost entirely, through aerosols. And to a lesser extent, airborne droplets, and possibly also through infected surfaces, but that's very rare.

That?s a point, and it is the first time in the history of time that it?s happened.

Check that, I just did a search engine search, and as it turns out it has actually been happening since the beginning of time.

And every time that has happened all of human life on earth was wiped out forever.
 
That?s a point, and it is the first time in the history of time that it?s happened.

Check that, I just did a search engine search, and as it turns out it has actually been happening since the beginning of time.

And every time that has happened all of human life on earth was wiped out forever.

I guess the other thing the pandemic taught me is how many people in our society are okay with 100,000s dying per year (not to mention the non-trivial number of people who recover but suffer from longer term health effects) as long as they aren't inconvenienced in any way. AT ALL. Convenience completely outweighs another human's life.

I'm not being sarcastic... it's a good lesson. I needed to learn it.
 
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