Coronainsanity

[tinselwolverine]

but deaths of drug overdoses, suicides, and deferred critical health care should. Got it.



And also we shouldn't do anything about any of those: not programs that target the reasons people get addicted to drugs, not programs to treat drug addiction, not prosecuting and jailing the executives and families that profited off those drug addictions, and not providing health care to all Americans.



Everyone suffers and dies alone, and that's their choice.

That?s quite a mouthful. Let?s start with the first point.

There is controversy over whether deaths are Covid or not from Covid. If there is any controversy regarding whether a death is a suicide, Or if a death is a drug overdose, or if a death is from healthcare that was not sought because of the lockdowns, I?m not aware of it.

I posted a video of Blix literally saying that we count Covid deaths different in this country than they do in other countries. On that video a reporter point blank asked her if we were getting it wrong, because some coroners had concerns.

Check that, there might be a little controversy regarding suicides are some people Bill and Hillary Clinton knew.

I think your points going forward are sarcastic.

I could be wrong, but it?s my understanding that medical science has determined the primary cause of addiction is that a person has a physiological predisposition to it.

There are lots of drug treatment programs. There are some problems that I could expand on, but the biggest problem is that drug addicts, for whatever reason, don?t wanna seek treatment. I guess they like doing drugs.

You have a law degree.

If you chose to pursue a career in prosecuting and jailing wrongdoers, such as any executives who may have committed crimes that resulted in death from drug overdoses, I would consider that a noble endeavor.

 

[Spartanmack]

That?s quite a mouthful. Let?s start with the first point.

There is controversy over whether deaths are Covid or not from Covid. If there is any controversy regarding whether a death is a suicide, Or if a death is a drug overdose, or if a death is from healthcare that was not sought because of the lockdowns, I?m not aware of it.

I posted a video of Blix literally saying that we count Covid deaths different in this country than they do in other countries. On that video a reporter point blank asked her if we were getting it wrong, because some coroners had concerns.

Check that, there might be a little controversy regarding suicides are some people Bill and Hillary Clinton knew.

I think your points going forward are sarcastic.

I could be wrong, but it?s my understanding that medical science has determined the primary cause of addiction is that a person has a physiological predisposition to it.

There are lots of drug treatment programs. There are some problems that I could expand on, but the biggest problem is that drug addicts, for whatever reason, don?t wanna seek treatment. I guess they like doing drugs.

You have a law degree.

If you chose to pursue a career in prosecuting and jailing wrongdoers, such as any executives who may have committed crimes that resulted in death from drug overdoses, I would consider that a noble endeavor.

Read this on the Bee about 5 minutes after reading this post...

 

[tigermud]

mRNA Vaccines Significantly Associated With Deadly Blood Clots, Major Study Finds
https://dailysceptic.org/2022/05/20...ed-with-deadly-blood-clots-major-study-finds/

 

[Spartanmack]

mRNA Vaccines Significantly Associated With Deadly Blood Clots, Major Study Finds
https://dailysceptic.org/2022/05/20...ed-with-deadly-blood-clots-major-study-finds/

too bad they got rid of the misinformation governance board, this can't be true.

 

[tigermud]

 

[Spartanmack]

So now we have two sources of data indicating large spikes in deaths and/or detrimental health conditions spiking in 2021. First, insurance company data showing an across the board 40% increase in deaths from all causes for people aged 18-49. And three US Army physicians culled medical data from 2016 to 2021. They looked at 5 year averages for multiple conditions from 2016-2020 and compared them to outcomes so far in 2021. The data shows massive spikes (on the order of 200-330%+) in things like heart attacks, cancer, miscarriages, bells palsy (a friend of mine is recovering from this). They haven't identified a cause or blamed the vaccine, but already they're bein shouted down by the twitterverse physicians calling for them to lose their medical licenses, be arrested, killed, etc...

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...1AFCFB262817D8F35C1B1AFCFB262817D8F&FORM=VIRE

 

[tinselwolverine]

So now we have two sources of data indicating large spikes in deaths and/or detrimental health conditions spiking in 2021. First, insurance company data showing an across the board 40% increase in deaths from all causes for people aged 18-49. And three US Army physicians culled medical data from 2016 to 2021. They looked at 5 year averages for multiple conditions from 2016-2020 and compared them to outcomes so far in 2021. The data shows massive spikes (on the order of 200-330%+) in things like heart attacks, cancer, miscarriages, bells palsy (a friend of mine is recovering from this). They haven't identified a cause or blamed the vaccine, but already they're bein shouted down by the twitterverse physicians calling for them to lose their medical licenses, be arrested, killed, etc...

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...1AFCFB262817D8F35C1B1AFCFB262817D8F&FORM=VIRE

This broad has been kicked off both Facebook and Twitter, so it must be fake news/disinformation. Plus no way is that really her name; Kelly Victory, yeah, right. Try to sell me the Brooklyn Bridge while you?re at it.

ALSO she provides data from insurance companies AND the military, two things we hate on this board.

 

[mhughes0021]

mRNA Vaccines Significantly Associated With Deadly Blood Clots, Major Study Finds
https://dailysceptic.org/2022/05/20...ed-with-deadly-blood-clots-major-study-finds/

Youd have to define significantly. the answer would be 2. When you compare that to the number of people that died from covid....no one gives a shit.

 

[mhughes0021]

So now we have two sources of data indicating large spikes in deaths and/or detrimental health conditions spiking in 2021. First, insurance company data showing an across the board 40% increase in deaths from all causes for people aged 18-49. And three US Army physicians culled medical data from 2016 to 2021. They looked at 5 year averages for multiple conditions from 2016-2020 and compared them to outcomes so far in 2021. The data shows massive spikes (on the order of 200-330%+) in things like heart attacks, cancer, miscarriages, bells palsy (a friend of mine is recovering from this). They haven't identified a cause or blamed the vaccine, but already they're bein shouted down by the twitterverse physicians calling for them to lose their medical licenses, be arrested, killed, etc...

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...1AFCFB262817D8F35C1B1AFCFB262817D8F&FORM=VIRE

we have 80000000 sources of data showing a 100000000000000% increase in deaths from covid in 2020 -2021 from the previous 5 years.

Your facebook prescription of do nothing and your body will fight it or option 2....take this random dewormer has been proven ineffective on a daily basis for the last 3 years (mainily by people that believed in what you believed in but then went back onto facebook to post a picture of themselves on their death bed stating how they should have taken a vaccine).

 

[tomdalton22]

Maybe it's COVID that is causing these other diseases/deaths

 

[Spartanmack]

we have 80000000 sources of data showing a 100000000000000% increase in deaths from covid in 2020 -2021 from the previous 5 years.

I don't know about 80 million, that sounds like a gross overstatement as does your 100T% increase in deaths - pretty sure mankind would be extinct before we got to that large of an increase (1T x # of global deaths > than the almost 8B people on the planet).

What we do know is the average age of a COVID death is 83 (up from 81 about a year ago) and that roughly 6% of those deaths are from COVID only. The average number of commorbidities for someone who died with COVID is 2.6 - meaning the average person who died with COVID had nearly three other life threatening ailments such as obesity, diabetes, cancer, etc ON TOP of being nearly 3 years older than the life expectancy in America.

Your facebook prescription of do nothing and your body will fight it or option 2....take this random dewormer has been proven ineffective on a daily basis for the last 3 years (mainily by people that believed in what you believed in but then went back onto facebook to post a picture of themselves on their death bed stating how they should have taken a vaccine).

I don't prescribe anything on Facebook or anywhere else, nor do I get prescriptions from Facebook. As for Ivermectin, first it's not a "random dewormer" whatever that is - it's a nobel prize winning drug that's been used to treat 10s of millions of people worldwide that like many drugs, has multiple indications including for COVID. It's completely false to say it's been proven ineffective - there are many studies that show it's effective in treating COVID 19. If it's been proven ineffective, as you say please provide the proof - it shouldn't be hard to find if it's happened daily for 3 years now. How many millions of sources do we have that show the vaccines are safe - notice I didn't ask for 'safe and effective' since we have loads of data showing they're not effective at preventing infection or spread.

 

[Spartanmack]

Maybe it's COVID that is causing these other diseases/deaths

maybe it is - could be that long COVID mc is always posting about. But shouldn't we try to find out? We had friends over for a mini reunion of my wife's college friends this weekend. One of the attendees used to do drug research for Astrazeneca. She was saying the MRNA spike protein prevents your DNA from being able to repair itself and that feature could easily be what's leading to this massive spike in cancer diagnoses, heart attacks, bells palsy, etc.

Personally, I'd like to know if there's a difference in the spikes in these diseases between the vaxx'd and unvaxx'd. Anecdotally, every person I'm aware of (2 personally and probably a dozen or so tangentally - relative or friend of a friend) who has had one of these medical events has been vaccinated - but I probably know more people who have been vaccinated than haven't. It's very strange to me that people react the way they do when others question their preferred narrative - why don't they want to know?

 

[mhughes0021]

I don't know about 80 million, that sounds like a gross overstatement as does your 100T% increase in deaths - pretty sure mankind would be extinct before we got to that large of an increase (1T x # of global deaths > than the almost 8B people on the planet).

What we do know is the average age of a COVID death is 83 (up from 81 about a year ago) and that roughly 6% of those deaths are from COVID only. The average number of commorbidities for someone who died with COVID is 2.6 - meaning the average person who died with COVID had nearly three other life threatening ailments such as obesity, diabetes, cancer, etc ON TOP of being nearly 3 years older than the life expectancy in America.

I don't prescribe anything on Facebook or anywhere else, nor do I get prescriptions from Facebook. As for Ivermectin, first it's not a "random dewormer" whatever that is - it's a nobel prize winning drug that's been used to treat 10s of millions of people worldwide that like many drugs, has multiple indications including for COVID. It's completely false to say it's been proven ineffective - there are many studies that show it's effective in treating COVID 19. If it's been proven ineffective, as you say please provide the proof - it shouldn't be hard to find if it's happened daily for 3 years now. How many millions of sources do we have that show the vaccines are safe - notice I didn't ask for 'safe and effective' since we have loads of data showing they're not effective at preventing infection or spread.

Theres several vaccines that do not prevent illness...like the flu vaccine. They simply give your body the tools needed to help fight the disease if you get it.

Ill go ahead an restate facts you used....since the avg age of death from covid rose to 83 after the vaccines...wouldnt that be proof that they are effective and helping protect the general population?

I guess im having a hard time figuring out the picture youre trying to paint with your posts.....are you saying this isnt a serious virus. I mean you seem to be pretty fact/stat friendly. Do you not see anything in the data suggesting this is a health concern? # of cases, # of deaths, impact on economy, impact on supply chain, impact on inflation. Nothing? Cause i know in my business the cost of Aluminum has tripled since Covid hit. Corn...same. And the entire nation is about to go through a mandated rate increase that impacts the end user due to these things.

Ill give a real life example from this week. Benecia CA. Covid spreads through entire Coca Cola warehouse. 300-500 loads per day are no longer being built or distributed to the customers with no timeline on recovery. Small example from something that doesnt really impact much outside those local businesses that do not have coke and Coke itself. But theres plenty of these examples on a larger scale that do have a greater impact. Have you gone to a car lot recently? Pretty scary seeing you only have 2 cars on the lot lol....isnt it?

 

[Spartanmack]

Theres several vaccines that do not prevent illness...like the flu vaccine. They simply give your body the tools needed to help fight the disease if you get it.

Except we were told that the MRNA would prevent infection and spread and they don't - and they don't really work against certain variants.

Ill go ahead an restate facts you used....since the avg age of death from covid rose to 83 after the vaccines...wouldnt that be proof that they are effective and helping protect the general population?

No, definitely not - especially if the vaccines are behind the spikes in deaths due to other causes (cancer, heart attacks, miscarriages, etc) and others afflictions like bells palsy. The virus wasn't killing healthy young people, seeing the average age of a death goes from really old to really really old isn't a reason for people without comorbidities to rush out and take an untested, ineffective vaccine.

I guess im having a hard time figuring out the picture youre trying to paint with your posts.....are you saying this isnt a serious virus. I mean you seem to be pretty fact/stat friendly. Do you not see anything in the data suggesting this is a health concern? # of cases, # of deaths, impact on economy, impact on supply chain, impact on inflation. Nothing? Cause i know in my business the cost of Aluminum has tripled since Covid hit. Corn...same. And the entire nation is about to go through a mandated rate increase that impacts the end user due to these things.

You are definitely not understanding the point of my post. I've been pretty consistent in saying I think this is a deadly virus for a certain demographic and should be treated as such. For a while I said repeatedly I was glad the vaccine was available for my elderly parents and in-laws (i'm less certain of that now). As for these recent posts, I haven't said anything about the virus - I'm making the point that these revelations are concerning and we should be asking questions about this data and what's causing it. As part of that, it's insane to not take a close, hard look at the vaccines.

Ill give a real life example from this week. Benecia CA. Covid spreads through entire Coca Cola warehouse. 300-500 loads per day are no longer being built or distributed to the customers with no timeline on recovery. Small example from something that doesnt really impact much outside those local businesses that do not have coke and Coke itself. But theres plenty of these examples on a larger scale that do have a greater impact. Have you gone to a car lot recently? Pretty scary seeing you only have 2 cars on the lot lol....isnt it?

Thanks for the example, but it doesn't prove anything about the severity of the virus or the effectiveness of the vaccines - it's not clear at all that these shut down related shortages aren't overreactions. We had to replace our minivan in November after a wreck - it was difficult to find a car.
According to the salesman at the Buick/GMC dealer we bought from, GM requires dealers to have 80% GM products on the floor. They had 1 new GM vehicle on the floor - the rest were all high-end used cars (Audis & BMWs). He said they couldn't put new GM vehicles in the showroom bc they wouldn't have enough for test drives.

Edit: Also, sugary drinks are really bad for you as are the sugar substitutes in the diet versions of those drinks.

 

[mhughes0021]

Except we were told that the MRNA would prevent infection and spread and they don't - and they don't really work against certain variants.



No, definitely not - especially if the vaccines are behind the spikes in deaths due to other causes (cancer, heart attacks, miscarriages, etc) and others afflictions like bells palsy. The virus wasn't killing healthy young people, seeing the average age of a death goes from really old to really really old isn't a reason for people without comorbidities to rush out and take an untested, ineffective vaccine.



You are definitely not understanding the point of my post. I've been pretty consistent in saying I think this is a deadly virus for a certain demographic and should be treated as such. For a while I said repeatedly I was glad the vaccine was available for my elderly parents and in-laws (i'm less certain of that now). As for these recent posts, I haven't said anything about the virus - I'm making the point that these revelations are concerning and we should be asking questions about this data and what's causing it. As part of that, it's insane to not take a close, hard look at the vaccines.



Thanks for the example, but it doesn't prove anything about the severity of the virus or the effectiveness of the vaccines - it's not clear at all that these shut down related shortages aren't overreactions. We had to replace our minivan in November after a wreck - it was difficult to find a car.
According to the salesman at the Buick/GMC dealer we bought from, GM requires dealers to have 80% GM products on the floor. They had 1 new GM vehicle on the floor - the rest were all high-end used cars (Audis & BMWs). He said they couldn't put new GM vehicles in the showroom bc they wouldn't have enough for test drives.

Edit: Also, sugary drinks are really bad for you as are the sugar substitutes in the diet versions of those drinks.

i dont think anyone thought MRNA vaccines would make you immune after the first wave...which was pretty successsful at immunity. Since Delta/Omicron and its several variants its become much less successful at immunity...basically 0. Which i think most of the population understands.

I agree with you 100%...if theres severe long term consequences to taking an MRNA vaccine its worth looking at the data and seeing whats the cause. Ill be happy to sue the fuck out of big pharma if you can prove any of what youre claiming.

Coca Cola distributes Powerade, BodyArmor, Smartwater, Dasani etc etc etc...plenty of zero sugar and no sugar options! Were not just a sugar water company

 

[tomdalton22]

Thanks for the example, but it doesn't prove anything about the severity of the virus or the effectiveness of the vaccines - it's not clear at all that these shut down related shortages aren't overreactions. We had to replace our minivan in November after a wreck - it was difficult to find a car.
According to the salesman at the Buick/GMC dealer we bought from, GM requires dealers to have 80% GM products on the floor. They had 1 new GM vehicle on the floor - the rest were all high-end used cars (Audis & BMWs). He said they couldn't put new GM vehicles in the showroom bc they wouldn't have enough for test drives.
.

You should have left your wife at home. You could have told her "fucking COVID, they were all out of minivans so we had to get the M5" :cheers:

 

[Spartanmack]

i dont think anyone thought MRNA vaccines would make you immune after the first wave...which was pretty successsful at immunity. Since Delta/Omicron and its several variants its become much less successful at immunity...basically 0. Which i think most of the population understands.

After the first round, I don't think anyone paying attention thought MRNA did much of anything. For a while now there have been legitimate questions about the effectiveness and the side affects. If they're not safe and/or effective and the government has been freezing access to effective therapeutics (ivermectin, hydroxychloroquin, monoclonal antibodies, etc) because all these Big Pharma and NIH assholes are getting rich and the government is getting more control, then heads should roll. But we're not even allowed to ask the questions because of Big Pharma's influence/control over the media and media partisanship.

I agree with you 100%...if theres severe long term consequences to taking an MRNA vaccine its worth looking at the data and seeing whats the cause. Ill be happy to sue the fuck out of big pharma if you can prove any of what youre claiming.

If you agree with me, then your initial response is quite odd because that was the only point I was making with that post. For the record, I'm not making any claims about the causes of these conditions - I have my suspicions and I think everyone deserves and should want answers. What I want is a rigorous, transparent scientific review of the cause of these things and for asshole like Fauci to answer questions rather than attacking people for asking them. Unfortunately, if it is shown that the vaccines caused/causes these harms, the Big Pharma has immunity from the federal government. Maybe they could pierce that armor if they can prove fraud and collusion b/w Big Pharma and all the scumbags at CDC and NIH, but good luck with that.

Coca Cola distributes Powerade, BodyArmor, Smartwater, Dasani etc etc etc...plenty of zero sugar and no sugar options! Were not just a sugar water company

I'm sure JnJ, Pfizer, et al probably sell some drugs that don't kill people...

Is there no sugar in Powerade?

 

[Spartanmack]

You should have left your wife at home. You could have told her "fucking COVID, they were all out of minivans so we had to get the M5" :cheers:

The M5 would be fun but we needed something for road tripping with a family of five. We got an Acadia - it's a better every day car and cooler than a minivan but if I'm being honest, the Odyssey was better for road tripping with 5 people & luggage.

 

[tomdalton22]

The M5 would be fun but we needed something for road tripping with a family of five. We got an Acadia - it's a better every day car and cooler than a minivan but if I'm being honest, the Odyssey was better for road tripping with 5 people & luggage.

We had an Odyssey when my youngest was a baby. It was probably the best overall vehicle that we owned for the same reasons you mentioned. Once my wife turned 40 she didn't want to drive a minivan anymore.

 

[Spartanmack]

We had an Odyssey when my youngest was a baby. It was probably the best overall vehicle that we owned for the same reasons you mentioned. Once my wife turned 40 she didn't want to drive a minivan anymore.

we got the Odyssey when my wife was about to give birth to our youngest and planned to get 10 years out of it - the car was almost exactly 7 years old when it was totaled. At the time, I tried to talk my wife into a Yukon XL but she wanted the minivan - so easy for the kids to get in and out, plenty of room for groceries and hauling stuff, etc. After a few months, I had to admit she made the right choice.

Now with gas prices at record highs, she wanted a Yukon XL - go figure. Thankfully, they were nearly impossible to find and when we did find a good one, prices were outrageous. I think a 2yr old Yukon XL was selling for almost the same price when it was brand new.