Detroit Lions FA Thread

[Dapig]

That's a projection and if was any good at that he wouldn't be on here. Not many are and those guys who do get paid to do that. It's watching the game and identifying strengths and weaknesses and knowing why things happen good or bad. It's just knowing the game of football.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

[Dapig]

great fill in deal....draft his replacement and groom him.

For sure


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

[Dapig]

this is perfectly said. DId anyone ever hear of Boykin on GB before they had 3 WRs go down to injury? Now I watch a lot of college football and I never heard of the guy.....but he comes in and produces right away. Stafford doesn't raise up anyones game....ever.

Again...Arod will probably go down as one of the all time greats. Lower your expectations


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

[mhughes0021]

That's a projection and if was any good at that he wouldn't be on here. Not many are and those guys who do get paid to do that. It's watching the game and identifying strengths and weaknesses and knowing why things happen good or bad. It's just knowing the game of football.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

its about seeing things without rose colored glasses. You cant say we have a talented TEAM and then blame loses on a couple minor injuries. That is the definition of having a paper thin shitty team lmao. Its contradicting yourself and makes him sound even more mentally handicapped than I already thought he was.

 

[mhughes0021]

Again...Arod will probably go down as one of the all time greats. Lower your expectations


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Oh they are low....lol...anyone who knows me on here knows they are low lol. And a couple posts from others saying hes a top 7 qb wont change that.

 

[Dapig]

Oh they are low....lol...anyone who knows me on here knows they are low lol. And a couple posts from others saying hes a top 7 qb wont change that.

7 to 10 is not anywhere close to Brees, Brady, Arod, manning. Round and round


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

[Dapig]

its about seeing things without rose colored glasses. You cant say we have a talented TEAM and then blame loses on a couple minor injuries. That is the definition of having a paper thin shitty team lmao. Its contradicting yourself and makes him sound even more mentally handicapped than I already thought he was.

I've never said why we lose...it's a lot more than that. We have a few really talented players but a full team with depth we do not.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

[LKP]

Im still waiting for him to be right one of these years lol. funny how people see things so differently when youre a homer. Not a single one of his predictions was accurate last year. It was a running joke in all of the game threads. Sooo he may "know a lot" just cause you happen to agree with him....but it doesn't make what he "knows" correct lol.

ps....did lkp create yet another account? didn't he try that last month too? lol

I have never created another account. Once again hughes making up false information.

Anyway I got plenty right, more TDS for Stafford, no special team returns allowed, better run game with Bush, more turnovers forced, +5 better pass (middle of the pack in 2013) and run defense (good the majority of the year in 2013). You find the only thing I got wrong in turnovers allowed and again their were considerable injuries to weapons, another bad fumble recovery rate, a blizzard and some weird interceptions (tipped balls, Tuck pic, Calvin pick against Bucs).

I'm more right than wrong. Most in the media say the Lions have alot of talent so you are the ones in the minority (hughes,Mitch,tomdalton, jdeb). They are talented but turnover prone and Linehan/Downing didn't address things. You would assume after 2012 debacle they would have done something about it. Linehan can game plan and get the offense to move points but he is clealry not a teacher. But the offense did get better with Bush and the Oline was better than expected (when Waddle played).

But now we have Caldwell and Lombardi to really address turnovers. We'll see if Bush/Bell fix their fumble issues.

And 2012 going into 2011, alot of bad stuff happened. Expecting good things after a playoff run was the right call by me. But then Best never saw the field again (participated in OTAs and they said October at worst), LeShoure was an unknown, Delmas missed half the season and their were just as many weapon injuries if not more in 2012. Plus less depth in 2012 with one less draft and no Quin to solidify safety on top of Delmas out. DEs took a nose dive and the special teams cost them 2 games in a 4-4 start.

2013 I was not wrong about the talent and the improvements other than turnovers allowed. And now we have the coaches to fix it.

 

[mhughes0021]

I have never created another account. Once again hughes making up false information.

Anyway I got plenty right, more TDS for Stafford, no special team returns allowed, better run game with Bush, more turnovers forced, +5 better pass (middle of the pack in 2013) and run defense (good the majority of the year in 2013). You find the only thing I got wrong in turnovers allowed and again their were considerable injuries to weapons, another bad fumble recovery rate, a blizzard and some weird interceptions (tipped balls, Tuck pic, Calvin pick against Bucs).

I'm more right than wrong. Most in the media say the Lions have alot of talent so you are the ones in the minority (hughes,Mitch,tomdalton, jdeb). They are talented but turnover prone and Linehan/Downing didn't address things. You would assume after 2012 debacle they would have done something about it. Linehan can game plan and get the offense to move points but he is clealry not a teacher. But the offense did get better with Bush and the Oline was better than expected (when Waddle played).

But now we have Caldwell and Lombardi to really address turnovers. We'll see if Bush/Bell fix their fumble issues.

And 2012 going into 2011, alot of bad stuff happened. Expecting good things after a playoff run was the right call by me. But then Best never saw the field again (participated in OTAs and they said October at worst), LeShoure was an unknown, Delmas missed half the season and their were just as many weapon injuries if not more in 2012. Plus less depth in 2012 with one less draft and no Quin to solidify safety on top of Delmas out. DEs took a nose dive and the special teams cost them 2 games in a 4-4 start.

2013 I was not wrong about the talent and the improvements other than turnovers allowed. And now we have the coaches to fix it.

jus messin with you guys lol. although it is slightly odd that this is the 2nd month in a row that some new poster has appeared. agreed solely with you for about a week... then disappears lol.

 

[LKP]

jus messin with you guys lol. although it is slightly odd that this is the 2nd month in a row that some new poster has appeared. agreed solely with you for about a week... then disappears lol.

I stand by all my statements on their own factual merit. I don't think some guy called Dapig is going to magically sway you to my side of thinking lol. Although he does have similar points as me and looks at the whole picture. So I like that he can actually think and analyze.

You must not be used to people thinking around here hughes. Since I'm usually one of the few, anyone who thinks must be me.

 

[lucke]

its about seeing things without rose colored glasses. You cant say we have a talented TEAM and then blame loses on a couple minor injuries. That is the definition of having a paper thin shitty team lmao. Its contradicting yourself and makes him sound even more mentally handicapped than I already thought he was.

same thing can be said about you looking at this organization though shit colored glasses.

he's overly positive about the outlook, while you're overly negative. pot, meet kettle.

the difference is that he's looking at things saying he's what can be fixed, etc... you're looking at it as "how can i rub it in that i was right"...

 

[Mitchrapp]

same thing can be said about you looking at this organization though shit colored glasses.

he's overly positive about the outlook, while you're overly negative. pot, meet kettle.

the difference is that he's looking at things saying he's what can be fixed, etc... you're looking at it as "how can i rub it in that i was right"...

No he didn't. He's looking things saying it's a fluke. It's a fluke this guy fumbled but the guy fumbled the year before too. He's looking at things saying we're the Seattle Seahawks. Big deference difference. One of these years he'll be right..

 

[LKP]

No he didn't. He's looking things saying it's a fluke. It's a fluke this guy fumbled but the guy fumbled the year before too. He's looking at things saying we're the Seattle Seahawks. Big deference difference. One of these years he'll be right..

No I'm saying what actually happened. Fumble recovery rate is one thing that can change and was flukey. Bush may fumble 4 or 5 times again. Will Bell in the snow twice? Durham going out of bounds? Everytime Bush or Bell put it on the turf will they lose it?

Stafford could have 18-19 picks again but he may have more TDs or the defense forces may more turnovers to counter those 4-5 extra picks. Or the coaching staff can tweak his footwork and he'll have 12 or less. Plus some more health. There are so many ways this team can win more games because the talent is already there.

And this team was thin depth wise at WR. And thus when WRS get hurt its costly. Doesn't mean they are paper thin everywhere (RB, DE, DT, CB, QB,RT) they were not. Safety and LB depth was not needed except for the Pittsburgh game with safety. And it took Calvin plus someone else plus no running game those days to have really bad offensive days at GB and at Minnesota.

 

[Mitchrapp]

It was fluky TWO YEARS IN A ROW.

 

[brewer229]

Is it flukes or carelessness? It's easy to blame losses on bad luck.

I've seen Tuckers field goal called fluke by you. When a guy is 10 of 11 from 50+ Seems like it's not a fluke.

Throwing a 7 yard pass to fauria that he has to stretch out just to get a finger on that gets tipped for an INT is not a fluke. It is the result of poor play.

But hey it is a drop because hand made contact with the ball, so not QBs fault.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Is it flukes or carelessness? It's easy to blame losses on bad luck.

I've seen Tuckers field goal called fluke by you. When a guy is 10 of 11 from 50+ Seems like it's not a fluke.

Throwing a 7 yard pass to fauria that he has to stretch out just to get a finger on that gets tipped for an INT is not a fluke. It is the result of poor play.

But hey it is a drop because hand made contact with the ball, so by QBs fault.

That goes into the "is it like baseball" category. Get a hand on it, error. Run around in circle and drops next to hit no error.

 

[LKP]

It was fluky TWO YEARS IN A ROW.

Fumble recovery rates alot are luck. 2011 they were on the good side of it.

We're not talking a major overhaul in fumbles. I'm talking like 2-3 less fumbles lost. But in close games, those make a huge difference. That could be 2-3 wins.

I'm more concerned about the lack of run game in the 7 of 9 losses really. 5 of those games were without Waddle and one Waddle came in for Reiff then Hilliard. Some were in bad weather conditions too but McCoy ran like a mad man (doesn't mean Lions run D sucked all year just that day).

There is work to do be done for these new coaches but doesn't mean there isn't alot of talent. Detroit moves the ball and scores very well despite their obstacles.

 

[LKP]

Is it flukes or carelessness? It's easy to blame losses on bad luck.

I've seen Tuckers field goal called fluke by you. When a guy is 10 of 11 from 50+ Seems like it's not a fluke.

Throwing a 7 yard pass to fauria that he has to stretch out just to get a finger on that gets tipped for an INT is not a fluke. It is the result of poor play.

But hey it is a drop because hand made contact with the ball, so by QBs fault.

That was a 63 year yard FG. Tucker is talented but most kickers and even Tucker might have a bad % kicking 63 yards. Detroit is the only team I know that can lose a heartbreaker on a FG like that. And it's very frustrating. We'd be talking about Staffords incredible TD drive if not for that. And then when you think about that and combine that with Akers miss and block against Arizona in a 4 point loss and the block against Cincy in 3 point loss (that set up a Bengals TD). it makes you really frustrated. Now we're talking kicking turning a 7-9 season into 10-6.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Fumble recovery rates alot are luck. 2011 they were on the good side of it.

We're not talking a major overhaul in fumbles. I'm talking like 2-3 less fumbles lost. But in close games, those make a huge difference. That could be 2-3 wins.

I'm more concerned about the lack of run game in the 7 of 9 losses really. 5 of those games were without Waddle and one Waddle came in for Reiff then Hilliard. Some were in bad weather conditions too but McCoy ran like a mad man (doesn't mean Lions run D sucked all year just that day).

There is work to do be done for these new coaches but doesn't mean there isn't alot of talent. Detroit moves the ball and scores very well despite their obstacles.

What about the wide open Bush, easy TD he misses. Wide open WR, easy TD he misses. Do those count?

 

[LKP]

What about the wide open Bush, easy TD he misses. Wide open WR, easy TD he misses. Do those count?

Yes that counts and was a bad miss. Never said Stafford was perfect. There is just way more good than bad with him. But 27 points on the road with very little run game support in Pittsburgh (who play good D at home) should be enough. I'm concerned with the redzone offense too at the end of the first half. And I'm concerned with that fake FG taking 3 points off the board and giving Pittsburgh momentum.