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Same to you Ron....although it still feels like it is and has been the dead of mid-winter here in SE MI during March. Beware the ides of March!!!

Same here Doug.

We got close to a foot yesterday and it was wet heavy heart attack snow.


Most is gone today.

Just a long winter since first of February with blizzards / snow storms every week(end) but one.
 
More corporate big business c'ksukers.
trying to screw the working stiffs.

Reminds me of the repubs and teabag scums.

They should try raising families or trying to survive on their own at 30K/40K.
 
Per BovadaLV, Trout (6/1) is favorite for AL MVP, followed by Tigers' Miggy (7/1).
JV is 25/1 for MVP, but 6/1 for Cy Young, behind Price.
 
While most Tigers enjoy final off-day of the spring, Porcello is in 4th inning of minor league start on back fields. Pena is catching him.
 
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What MLB execs-franchise owners AREN'T stating about eliminating their defined pension plan benefits is likely that they also want to greatly reduce if not abolish their matching contributions to their "grunt" employees pension plans, which might have been added to a certain percentage of pre-tax income that each employee was individually contributing biweekly or monthly. If so, that would be very shameful and extremely selfish/greedy on MLB's part.

"No one is suggesting that pension plans are going to be eliminated," he said. "What the conversation has been about is allowing individual clubs more flexibility as to what exactly their pension plan is going to look like. Nobody is suggesting there is going to be no plan ... for anybody. The issue is in the current arrangement we essentially mandate a particular type of defined benefit pension plan. The question is whether the individual team should have more flexibility to design a program that is effective to them."

Oh yeah, suure...but Manfred forgot to include the words "more" and "cost" as in being more cost-effective FOR them...so that they can even further enrich themselves out of the pockets of the portion of the hoi-polli/great unwashed that they employ.

"The potential impact of eliminating the pension plan would affect much of the MLB family: front-office executives, trainers, minor league staff and scouts. Some of those personnel, particularly on the minor league level and in amateur scouting, make less than $40,000 a year and rely on pensions in retirement."


Flexibility: Common corporate code word/speak (along with having new "tools") for: You're on your own, suckers..so hoist your own petards!! The corporate trend towards eliminating defined benefit pension plans, or worse, just cutting off all retirement benefits including long and short term health insurance coverage w/the assistance of favorable legislation and court rulings is truly disturbing and frightening for our nation's so-called "middle-class'" financial future, IMO.

Pensions are a thing of the past. People live too long. No company should be responsible for their employee's retirement. Don't get me wrong....every employer should have the tools available to assist employees. 401k type programs are the answer. The employer matches a part of the employee's salary but it should be up to the employee to plan for their future.
 
The employer matches a part of the employee's salary but it should be up to the employee to plan for their future.

Federal and national companies are stopping this too.
 
The employer matches a part of the employee's salary but it should be up to the employee to plan for their future.

Federal and national companies are stopping this too.

To be honest I am fine with this too. Bottom line is it should be up to the individual to plan for their retirement.
 
Pensions are a thing of the past. People live too long. No company should be responsible for their employee's retirement. Don't get me wrong....every employer should have the tools available to assist employees. 401k type programs are the answer. The employer matches a part of the employee's salary but it should be up to the employee to plan for their future.

So what do you suggest that the future dependent elderly and infirm do otherwise (and there are and soon will be MANY more of them guaranteed)? Off themselves? Not a very easy thing to do, and many would likely "chicken out", and if still healthy enough, may turn to committing crimes in an effort to survive. Of course millions if not tens of milions, would eventually be caught, arrested, tried, convicted and sentenced to jails or prisons, where the remaining taxpayers would otherwise be required to support them 24/7/365.

Of course legislation in the vein of Hitler's "Final Solution" could be passed and would eventually "solve" that vexing problem.
 
So what do you suggest that the future dependent elderly and infirm do otherwise (and there are and soon will be MANY more of them guaranteed)? Off themselves? Not a very easy thing to do, and many would likely "chicken out", and if still healthy enough, may turn to committing crimes in an effort to survive. Of course millions if not tens of milions, would eventually be caught, arrested, tried, convicted and sentenced to jails or prisons, where the remaining taxpayers would otherwise be required to support them 24/7/365.

Of course legislation in the vein of Hitler's "Final Solution" could be passed and would eventually "solve" that vexing problem.

If someone has a pension they should be able to use it when they retire. What I am saying is companies should stop funding and offering them
 
You guys should migrate this topic to the politics board or one of the off topic ones, so as not to clutter up KC's Tiger news.
 
You guys should migrate this topic to the politics board or one of the off topic ones, so as not to clutter up KC's Tiger news.

clutter up the news...this thread has almost 2000 pages of posts. A few other posts aren't going to hurt anything
 
You guys should migrate this topic to the politics board or one of the off topic ones, so as not to clutter up KC's Tiger news.


My initial reply was directly related to a link to an ESPN MLB article that KC/Ron had posted, but it wasn't my intention to begin a lengthy discussion on the topic or on this thread. I did PM him shortly afterwards to apologize for my "rant", however.
 
ok....That's enough rant.

As a union member, I'm as much to blame with my personal caustic posts.

hopefully everybody else had their say.
 
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