Election Aftermath

[tinselwolverine]

FYI, at age 43, Ron DeSantis reported net worth is $348k. He's spent most of his career in the military, congress and now as governor of Florida. There's no indication his parents are wealthy at least I can't find anything that suggests they are. His wife was a local TV personality - not bad but not exactly big bucks, maybe her family has some money but that wouldn't have had any impact on him getting into or exceeding at Yale.

I can?t either.

Bill Clinton played basketball and rugby at Oxford. A lot of presidents have pretty famously been athletic. Clinton also married a woman whose family had some money.

Clinton went to Yale law, not coming from a lot of affluence. Obama Harvard, the same.

DeSantis seems to have served in the Navy with distinction while attending Harvard Law.

DeSantis seems to be more in the mold of a Clinton or an Obama - or a Reagan or a Nixon - background wise.

Or Biden too, I guess.

Too bad Democrats didn?t nominate him when he had functioning cranial synapses.

Anyway good for the POTUSes of both parties who showed that the saying ?any kid in America can grow up to be president? isn?t always a load of bullshit.

 

[tigermud]

CA votes to keep running itself into the ground

 

[Thumb]

CA votes to keep running itself into the ground

Well, to be fair it IS the lib-dem pinko-chicom capitol of the USA

But look on the bright side, your team will never lose Mississippi!

 

[Michchamp]

The GOP didn't really fight this one out.

I saw Newsom had raised twice the cash of all his opponents combined, and Biden was there campaigning for him. What national Republican figures waded into this one like that?

Billionaires & corporate America are perfectly happy with Newsom, and so is the RNC.

One-party states aren't a problem, per se, as long as they aren't actually trying to rock the boat. Makes it easier to know who to bribe, just like Republicans in rural places.

Contrast this with what's going on in Buffalo, NY, where a self-avowed socialist candidate won the Democratic primary, and her own party is doing everything it can to torpedo her.

 

[Spartanmack]

The GOP didn't really fight this one out.

I saw Newsom had raised twice the cash of all his opponents combined, and Biden was there campaigning for him. What national Republican figures waded into this one like that?


Billionaires & corporate America are perfectly happy with Newsom, and so is the RNC.

you're aware that Newsome had an uncapped budget while there were statutory limits on how much the challengers were allowed to raise and spend, right? it's not like it was actually a fair fight on Newsome was just that much more popular. Also, Newsome had 2 of your least favorite type of people pouring shit tons of cash into his campaign of lies - billionaires Reed Hastings and George Soros, in addition to big labor who was also able to spend freely despite the opposition being handcuffed.

Also, not sure where you get the nonsense that the RNC is OK with Newsom

One-party states aren't a problem, per se, as long as they aren't actually trying to rock the boat. Makes it easier to know who to bribe, just like Republicans in rural places.

Contrast this with what's going on in Buffalo, NY, where a self-avowed socialist candidate won the Democratic primary, and her own party is doing everything it can to torpedo her.

tell that to all the suckers who bought into the the "white supremacist black guy" lies that are paying $150/month electric bills for a 1-bedroom apartment without ever running heat or A/C, just kitchen appliances, a TV and computer - oh, and a phone charger, dealing with rolling brown outs, ever increasing taxes, water shortages and disastrous wild fires (due forestry mismanagement, not the ACCC boogeyman).

 

[Michchamp]

you're aware that Newsome had an uncapped budget while there were statutory limits on how much the challengers were allowed to raise and spend, right? it's not like it was actually a fair fight on Newsome was just that much more popular. ...

That sounds... blatantly unconstitutional.

assuming you're not full of shit, why didn't the GOP challenge this law?

the rest of your post isn't worth responding to.

EDIT: actually this part probably wasn't worth responding to either.

 

[Michchamp]

This site "calmatters.org" tracked the top campaign contributors, and the amount of money spent opposing or promoting the recall (which was not capped, according to this).

Looks like opponents of the recall raised twice as much.

Also, I don't see Soros' name anywhere on the list of top contributors. You must've gotten your info from some wacky Glenn Beck or Alex Jones youtube video. Reed Hastings is on there, though.

 

[tigermud]

Well, to be fair it IS the lib-dem pinko-chicom capitol of the USA

But look on the bright side, your team will never lose Mississippi!

I?m not even blaming election fraud for this one, given so many have already moved out of CA maybe only the idiots are left there, except for tinsel, tinsel isn?t an idiot he tried. He voted not to keep running CA into the ground.

 

[Michchamp]

I?m not even blaming election fraud for this one, given so many have already moved out of CA maybe only the idiots are left there, except for tinsel, tinsel isn?t an idiot he tried. He voted not to keep running CA into the ground.

Perhaps you could travel there someday and see what it's like for yourself. Broaden your horizons.

 

[tinselwolverine]

I?m not even blaming election fraud for this one, given so many have already moved out of CA maybe only the idiots are left there, except for tinsel, tinsel isn?t an idiot he tried. He voted not to keep running CA into the ground.

Thanks.

The battle has just begun.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cH2C8nrkmS8

 

[byco42]

Thanks.

The battle has just begun.

I recall that the Union forces lost the initial major battle of the Civil War. And many others in the East until Gettysburg.

Washington's troops were barefoot at Valley Forge.

Bataan, Guam, the Phillipines ...

That's adversity ... unseating the Democrats in California will not require that level of sacrifice.

 

[Michchamp]

I recall that the Union forces lost the initial major battle of the Civil War. And many others in the East until Gettysburg.

Washington's troops were barefoot at Valley Forge.

Bataan, Guam, the Phillipines ...

That's adversity ... unseating the Democrats in California will not require that level of sacrifice.

Well, Antietem was a tie on the battlefield, but a strategic victory overall. Lee wasn't so hot when he wasn't playing defense in his own territory.

But regardless... unseating the Democrats in California to what end?

So the state GOP can further increase the political power of billionaires in the state, and Silicon Valley corporations and financiers?

You think the party openly opposed to workers' unions and taxes on the wealthy* is going to improve the situation for working class people and poor people?








*as opposed to most Democrats, who quietly oppose these things

 

[tinselwolverine]

I recall that the Union forces lost the initial major battle of the Civil War. And many others in the East until Gettysburg.

Washington's troops were barefoot at Valley Forge.

Bataan, Guam, the Phillipines ...

That's adversity ... unseating the Democrats in California will not require that level of sacrifice.

Some of us are already looking at the White House for Larry in 2024.

As big as the problems as California, they don?t amount to a hill of beans?

(Cue the obligatory Tinsel video clip)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-BCswxH6VNI

 

[Michchamp]

Some of us are already looking at the White House for Larry in 2024.

As big as the problems as California, they don?t amount to a hill of beans?

(Cue the obligatory Tinsel video clip)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-BCswxH6VNI

Hmmm... that's not the clip that comes to mind when I hear "hill of beans" used rhetorically.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnIDLELMkzU

 

[tinselwolverine]

Hmmm... that's not the clip that comes to mind when I hear "hill of beans" used rhetorically.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnIDLELMkzU

He?s talking to Elvis?s ex-wife in that clip, isn?t he?

 

[byco42]

Well, Antietem was a tie on the battlefield, but a strategic victory overall. Lee wasn't so hot when he wasn't playing defense in his own territory.

Antietam was a Union defeat IMO, because McClellan had Lee's army enveloped and pinned against a river and he botched the opportunity. He also outnumbered Lee by nearly two to one.

But regardless... unseating the Democrats in California to what end?

So the state GOP can further increase the political power of billionaires in the state, and Silicon Valley corporations and financiers?

Like the tech giant billionaires in CA aren't actually aligned with Democrats?

You think the party openly opposed to workers' unions and taxes on the wealthy* is going to improve the situation for working class people and poor people?

Right, because the Democrats have done such a superior job of elevating the poor and the working class. They don't care about them, either.

 

[Spartanmack]

That sounds... blatantly unconstitutional.

assuming you're not full of shit, why didn't the GOP challenge this law?

Maybe do just a tiny bit of research before you make yourself look silly again.

it's been widely reported by multiple outlets. Here it is from one of your favorite publications...

Since you rarely read beyond the headline of articles you post yourself, here's a quote from the second paragraph of the Mother Jones piece...

At last count, both sides in the recall fight had collectively raised more than $65 million, but nearly 90 percent of that?$58 million?has flowed to groups supporting Newsom. The California governor does have one big advantage in the money race. Since he is not technically a candidate, his backers are not constrained by spending limits, which only apply to those running for office (Newsom is already in office). The pro-recall effort has raised just $7.7 million.

Maybe Mother Jones has become an alt right outlet in that last week and this is just bullshit some white supremacist made up.

the rest of your post isn't worth responding to.

Translation: I have nothing to say to counter this so I will simply dismiss it offhand.

EDIT: actually this part probably wasn't worth responding to either.

too bad you posted this edit before my reply. It's hilarious to me how frequently you make yourself look like a complete dumbass.

 

[Spartanmack]

This site "calmatters.org" tracked the top campaign contributors, and the amount of money spent opposing or promoting the recall (which was not capped, according to this).

Looks like opponents of the recall raised twice as much.

Also, I don't see Soros' name anywhere on the list of top contributors. You must've gotten your info from some wacky Glenn Beck or Alex Jones youtube video. Reed Hastings is on there, though.

Again, maybe a little research before you make an ass of yourself. Here's the NYT saying Soros contributed $500k to an organization fighting the recall. Here's MSN saying Soros giving $500k to ?Stop the Republican Recall of Governor Newsom? - My guess is that organization was supporting Newsom in the recall. As I pointed out before, I know you don't like to read even the articles you post but the NYT also indicated hollywood producter Jeff Katzenberg gave Newsom $500k and Dr. Priscilla Chan (Mark Zuckerberg's wife) donated $750k.

They didn't raise 2x more money, they raised 7.5x more money - because they weren't capped, despite your disbelief which you took no steps to verity. Anyone running against Newsom was subject to campaign contribution limits.

 

[Spartanmack]

Well, Antietem was a tie on the battlefield, but a strategic victory overall. Lee wasn't so hot when he wasn't playing defense in his own territory.

But regardless... unseating the Democrats in California to what end?

So the state GOP can further increase the political power of billionaires in the state, and Silicon Valley corporations and financiers?

You think the party openly opposed to workers' unions and taxes on the wealthy* is going to improve the situation for working class people and poor people?



*as opposed to most Democrats, who quietly oppose these things

virtually all the billionaires including the silicon valley ones were backing Newsom - the evidence shows this to be a fact. According the Mother Jones piece I linked in post #997, even in 2018 less than 9% of Newsom's campaign contributions came from individual donors. The guy has been in the pocket of special interests since day 1 - and not just big labor, he's supported by big business too, especially big tech.

And California is in the position it's in because of one-party rule and still you post this nonsense. You think driving up the cost of electricity to hundreds of dollars per month for a modest home, turning the state into a homeless camp and open air drug market, creating conditions for massive annual wildfires is improving the situation for working class and poor people? This was all achieved by Democrats and the people just voted for more of it because they snowed over by billionaires funding a campaign of misinformation. It's shocking how ignorant one can be - I know at this point it shouldn't be, but it is.

*Democrats don't oppose those things - they're the ones who created them.

 

[tigermud]

Perhaps you could travel there someday and see what it's like for yourself. Broaden your horizons.

I?ve been there plenty of times over the years. It?s becoming a shit hole in the blue territories