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Election Aftermath

WRONG! same ol' discredit attempt crap from the likes of the narrative parrots I for one will NEVER believe Joe Biden got more LEGAL votes than Obama. I also strongly believe we really did land on the MOON! and that the EARTH is NOT flat! Also potentially noteworthy, I don't believe in BIGFOOT either!

So you sir can kindly GFY for that generalization, and make sure you get your booster shot every 6 months! Have a nice day!



Reading comprehension.

I never claimed that everyone who thought the election was stolen also believed those things, I was just comparing one set of far-out batshit crazy theories to another.

As for Bigfoot....we are currently working on a new prototype for him in our libdem-chicom laboratory facilities all funded by the money Fauci earned selling masks.
 
A system that was gamed by stay home stay safe mail in vote harvest. Let?s see the AZ audit results, Maricopa won?t comply. It?s there, they won?t let anyone see it.


So eve if they found out Trump won AZ (which he didn't), that's only 246 electoral votes, and Joe Biden is still your president
 
"Mail-in ballots are extremely susceptible to fraud" - Jerry Nadler. Well, it appears that he's possibly correct.

A Summary of the Texas Election Lawsuit

Texas claims that the violations of election law in these states created an environment where ballot fraud was enabled and likely to occur. The lawsuit lists the violations of law in each of the defendant states and provides evidence of fraud (the number of ballots handled unconstitutionally) in each of the states sufficient to change the outcome of the ballot counts.

Pennsylvania

Facts:

Vote Tally: 3,445,548 for Biden and 3,363,951 for Trump - margin 81,597.
Requests for mail-in ballots 70% Democrats and 25% Republicans.
Mail-in ballots increased from 266,208 in 2016 to over 3,000,000 in 2020.

Violations of Election Law:

The Secretary of State unilaterally abrogated signature verification requirements for mail-in ballots.
PA supreme court changed existing deadline for receiving mail-in ballots from 8:00 PM on the day of election to 3 days after the election and adopted a presumption that non-postmarked ballots be considered as valid.
Election officials in Philadelphia and Allegheny Counties did not follow state law permitting poll-watchers to be present for the opening, counting, and recording of mail-in ballots.
The Secretary of State directed election officials to remove ballots before 7:00 AM on the day of election in order to ?cure? defective mail-in ballots. This was done only in Democrat majority counties.
Election officials did not segregate ballots received after 8:00 PM on election day breaking the promise made to the U.S. Supreme Court thus making it impossible to identify or remove those ballots.
Evidence of Fraud:

Ballots with no mailed date: 9,005 (no evidence they were sent to a voter)
Ballots returned on or before the mailed date: 58,221
Ballots returned one day after the mailed date: 51,200 (Perhaps not impossible, but highly unlikely for the average voter to receive a ballot, fill it out, place it in the mail and have it returned the next day.)
On Nov 2, the day before the election, PA reports that 2.7 million ballots had been sent out. On Nov 4 that number had increased to 3.1 million -- an increase of 400,000 mail-in ballots at election time with literally no reasonable chance of them being used by legitimate voters.

Georgia

Facts:

Vote Tally: 2,472,098 for Biden and 2,458,121 for Trump - margin 12,670.
Mail-in ballots: 65.32% for Biden and 34.68% for Trump.
Mail-in ballots increased from 213,033 in 2016 to 1,305,659 in 2020.

Violations of Election Law:

The Secretary of State unilaterally abrogated signature verification requirements for mail-in ballots.
The Secretary of State authorized opening and processing mail-in ballots up to three weeks before election day when the law prohibits that until after the polls open on election day.
The Secretary of State materially weakened the security requirements for ballot rejection based on signature verification or other missing information.

Evidence of Fraud:

Mail-in ballot rejection rate for missing or inaccurate information or for non-matching signatures decreased from 6.42% in 2016 to .36% in 2020. Rejecting 2020 ballots at the same rate as 2016 would have resulted in a net gain of 25,587 votes for Trump ? twice the number needed to overcome Biden?s count. With a six-fold increase in the number of mail-in ballots, reason would indicate that the rejection rate would increase, or at least stay the same, with so many first-time mail-in ballots.

Michigan

Facts:

Vote Tally: 2,796,702 for Biden and 2,650,695 for Trump - margin 146,007.
In 2016 587,618 voters requested mail-in ballots. In 2020 3.2 million votes were cast by mail-in ballot.
Democrats voted by mail at a rate approximately two times that of Republican voters.

Violations of Election Law:

The Secretary of State unilaterally abrogated signature verification requirements for mail-in ballots.
The Secretary of State sent out unsolicited ballots to all 7.7 million registered voters contrary to election law which requires a voter to request a mail-in ballot through a process that includes a signature to be matched with the voter registration.
The Secretary of State also allowed absentee ballots to be requested online without signature verification.
Local election officials in Wayne County -- containing 322,925 more ballots for Biden than for Trump -- opened and processed mail-in ballots without poll-watchers present.
Local election officials in Wayne County also ignored the strict election law requirements of placing a written statement or stamp on each ballot envelope indicating that the voter signature was in fact checked and verified with the signature on file with the state.

Evidence of Fraud:

174,384 mail-in ballots in Wayne County had no valid registration number, indicating they likely resulted from election workers running the same ballots through the tabulator multiple times.
71% of Wayne County Absent Voter Counting Boards were unbalanced, where the number of people who checked in did not match the number of ballots cast.

Wisconsin

Facts:

Vote Tally: 1,630,716 for Biden and 1,610,151 for Trump - margin 20,565.
Mail-in ballots increased from 146,932 in 2016 to 1,275,019 in 2020.
Violations of Election Law:

The Wisconsin Elections Commission (WEC) positioned hundreds of unmanned illegal drop boxes to collect absentee ballots. (The use of any drop box, manned or unmanned, is directly prohibited by Wisconsin statute. Any alternate mail-in ballot site ?shall be staffed by the municipal clerk or the executive director of the board of election commissioners?? ?Ballots cast in contravention of the procedures specified in those provisions may not be included in the certified result of any election.?)
The WEC encouraged voters to unlawfully declare themselves ?indefinitely confined? in order to avoid security measures like signature verification and photo ID requirements. Nearly 216,000 voters said they were indefinitely confined in the 2020 election, nearly four times as many as in 2016.
Strict laws requiring mail-in voters to certify by signature including the signature of an adult witness were ignored or circumvented by election officials.
Evidence of Fraud:

One hundred thousand ballots were supposedly missing and directed to be ?found? after election day.

Conclusion

Significant violations of election law that were put into place to protect against election fraud is sufficient to invalidate the results of the elections, apart from whatever evidence is able to be gathered in a short time to show actual numbers of fraudulent ballots. Reason would indicate that there is a high number of fraudulent ballots that are impossible to identify, which is why the election laws pertaining to mail-in ballots were established to begin with.

There is no remedy to correct the Nov 3rd election because ballots that did not adhere to election law cannot be identified as separate from those that did. An accurate count of legal ballots that were cast cannot be made. Therefore, as directed in the Constitution, it falls to the legislature of each state to choose electors as has been done in the past. Failing that, each state may determine not to submit any presidential electors.

The Texas lawsuit claims the odds of Biden overcoming Trump?s lead and winning any of the states after the point indicated was one in a quadrillion. And therefore, the odds of winning all four was one in a quadrillion to the fourth power. The lawsuit did not provide information on how that number was determined. This may seem an exaggeration to some. It is enough to state that the odds of winning any one of the states was highly unlikely and the odds of winning all four were extremely unlikely. For example, if the odds of winning any one of the states was numerically much less extreme but still highly unlikely, say something like one in twenty, then the odds of doing that in all four states would be 1 in 160,000. Twenty beans in a jar: 19 white and 1 black. Reach in without looking and be lucky enough to pull out the one black bean. Chances of doing that again is 1 in 400. Clearly indicative of cheating if someone claims to have done that four times in a row. As I said the statistical analysis behind the claim of odds of 1 in a 1,000,000,000,000 are not given so I cannot speak to that. But even if the odds were orders of magnitude better than that, they were still astronomically small. At any rate, the merits of the lawsuit do not depend on any certain level of odds of Biden overcoming a lead that had been established by 3:00 A.M. the day after election.

Filed on December 7, 2020. Thrown out by SCOTUS on December 11, 2020.
 
"Mail-in ballots are extremely susceptible to fraud" - Jerry Nadler. Well, it appears that he's possibly correct.

A Summary of the Texas Election Lawsuit

Texas claims that the violations of election law in these states created an environment where ballot fraud was enabled and likely to occur. The lawsuit lists the violations of law in each of the defendant states and provides evidence of fraud (the number of ballots handled unconstitutionally) in each of the states sufficient to change the outcome of the ballot counts.

Pennsylvania

Facts:

Vote Tally: 3,445,548 for Biden and 3,363,951 for Trump - margin 81,597.
Requests for mail-in ballots 70% Democrats and 25% Republicans.
Mail-in ballots increased from 266,208 in 2016 to over 3,000,000 in 2020.

Violations of Election Law:

The Secretary of State unilaterally abrogated signature verification requirements for mail-in ballots.
PA supreme court changed existing deadline for receiving mail-in ballots from 8:00 PM on the day of election to 3 days after the election and adopted a presumption that non-postmarked ballots be considered as valid.
Election officials in Philadelphia and Allegheny Counties did not follow state law permitting poll-watchers to be present for the opening, counting, and recording of mail-in ballots.
The Secretary of State directed election officials to remove ballots before 7:00 AM on the day of election in order to ?cure? defective mail-in ballots. This was done only in Democrat majority counties.
Election officials did not segregate ballots received after 8:00 PM on election day breaking the promise made to the U.S. Supreme Court thus making it impossible to identify or remove those ballots.
Evidence of Fraud:

Ballots with no mailed date: 9,005 (no evidence they were sent to a voter)
Ballots returned on or before the mailed date: 58,221
Ballots returned one day after the mailed date: 51,200 (Perhaps not impossible, but highly unlikely for the average voter to receive a ballot, fill it out, place it in the mail and have it returned the next day.)
On Nov 2, the day before the election, PA reports that 2.7 million ballots had been sent out. On Nov 4 that number had increased to 3.1 million -- an increase of 400,000 mail-in ballots at election time with literally no reasonable chance of them being used by legitimate voters.

Georgia

Facts:

Vote Tally: 2,472,098 for Biden and 2,458,121 for Trump - margin 12,670.
Mail-in ballots: 65.32% for Biden and 34.68% for Trump.
Mail-in ballots increased from 213,033 in 2016 to 1,305,659 in 2020.

Violations of Election Law:

The Secretary of State unilaterally abrogated signature verification requirements for mail-in ballots.
The Secretary of State authorized opening and processing mail-in ballots up to three weeks before election day when the law prohibits that until after the polls open on election day.
The Secretary of State materially weakened the security requirements for ballot rejection based on signature verification or other missing information.

Evidence of Fraud:

Mail-in ballot rejection rate for missing or inaccurate information or for non-matching signatures decreased from 6.42% in 2016 to .36% in 2020. Rejecting 2020 ballots at the same rate as 2016 would have resulted in a net gain of 25,587 votes for Trump ? twice the number needed to overcome Biden?s count. With a six-fold increase in the number of mail-in ballots, reason would indicate that the rejection rate would increase, or at least stay the same, with so many first-time mail-in ballots.

Michigan

Facts:

Vote Tally: 2,796,702 for Biden and 2,650,695 for Trump - margin 146,007.
In 2016 587,618 voters requested mail-in ballots. In 2020 3.2 million votes were cast by mail-in ballot.
Democrats voted by mail at a rate approximately two times that of Republican voters.

Violations of Election Law:

The Secretary of State unilaterally abrogated signature verification requirements for mail-in ballots.
The Secretary of State sent out unsolicited ballots to all 7.7 million registered voters contrary to election law which requires a voter to request a mail-in ballot through a process that includes a signature to be matched with the voter registration.
The Secretary of State also allowed absentee ballots to be requested online without signature verification.
Local election officials in Wayne County -- containing 322,925 more ballots for Biden than for Trump -- opened and processed mail-in ballots without poll-watchers present.
Local election officials in Wayne County also ignored the strict election law requirements of placing a written statement or stamp on each ballot envelope indicating that the voter signature was in fact checked and verified with the signature on file with the state.

Evidence of Fraud:

174,384 mail-in ballots in Wayne County had no valid registration number, indicating they likely resulted from election workers running the same ballots through the tabulator multiple times.
71% of Wayne County Absent Voter Counting Boards were unbalanced, where the number of people who checked in did not match the number of ballots cast.

Wisconsin

Facts:

Vote Tally: 1,630,716 for Biden and 1,610,151 for Trump - margin 20,565.
Mail-in ballots increased from 146,932 in 2016 to 1,275,019 in 2020.
Violations of Election Law:

The Wisconsin Elections Commission (WEC) positioned hundreds of unmanned illegal drop boxes to collect absentee ballots. (The use of any drop box, manned or unmanned, is directly prohibited by Wisconsin statute. Any alternate mail-in ballot site ?shall be staffed by the municipal clerk or the executive director of the board of election commissioners?? ?Ballots cast in contravention of the procedures specified in those provisions may not be included in the certified result of any election.?)
The WEC encouraged voters to unlawfully declare themselves ?indefinitely confined? in order to avoid security measures like signature verification and photo ID requirements. Nearly 216,000 voters said they were indefinitely confined in the 2020 election, nearly four times as many as in 2016.
Strict laws requiring mail-in voters to certify by signature including the signature of an adult witness were ignored or circumvented by election officials.
Evidence of Fraud:

One hundred thousand ballots were supposedly missing and directed to be ?found? after election day.

Conclusion

Significant violations of election law that were put into place to protect against election fraud is sufficient to invalidate the results of the elections, apart from whatever evidence is able to be gathered in a short time to show actual numbers of fraudulent ballots. Reason would indicate that there is a high number of fraudulent ballots that are impossible to identify, which is why the election laws pertaining to mail-in ballots were established to begin with.

There is no remedy to correct the Nov 3rd election because ballots that did not adhere to election law cannot be identified as separate from those that did. An accurate count of legal ballots that were cast cannot be made. Therefore, as directed in the Constitution, it falls to the legislature of each state to choose electors as has been done in the past. Failing that, each state may determine not to submit any presidential electors.

The Texas lawsuit claims the odds of Biden overcoming Trump?s lead and winning any of the states after the point indicated was one in a quadrillion. And therefore, the odds of winning all four was one in a quadrillion to the fourth power. The lawsuit did not provide information on how that number was determined. This may seem an exaggeration to some. It is enough to state that the odds of winning any one of the states was highly unlikely and the odds of winning all four were extremely unlikely. For example, if the odds of winning any one of the states was numerically much less extreme but still highly unlikely, say something like one in twenty, then the odds of doing that in all four states would be 1 in 160,000. Twenty beans in a jar: 19 white and 1 black. Reach in without looking and be lucky enough to pull out the one black bean. Chances of doing that again is 1 in 400. Clearly indicative of cheating if someone claims to have done that four times in a row. As I said the statistical analysis behind the claim of odds of 1 in a 1,000,000,000,000 are not given so I cannot speak to that. But even if the odds were orders of magnitude better than that, they were still astronomically small. At any rate, the merits of the lawsuit do not depend on any certain level of odds of Biden overcoming a lead that had been established by 3:00 A.M. the day after election.

Filed on December 7, 2020. Thrown out by SCOTUS on December 11, 2020.

Wow. Those are some pretty big numbers.

Is the numeral what a quadrillion looks like? Or is that a quadrillion to the fourth power?

I don?t think I?ve ever seen so many numbers in one place.

My hand held computer tell me a quadrillion to the fourth power would be 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.

That?s a pretty high number.

Maybe that?s why SCOTUS dismissed it so out of hand.

It?s mind blowing.

EDIT: Byco, I hate to burst your bubble but my hand held computer tells me that the numeral you posted is a paltry trillion.

Barely worth SCOTUS getting out of bed for.

Maybe that?s why they dismissed it so out of hand.

They were irritated by the intrusion.
 
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"Mail-in ballots are extremely susceptible to fraud" - Jerry Nadler. Well, it appears that he's possibly correct.

Georgia

Facts:

Vote Tally: 2,472,098 for Biden and 2,458,121 for Trump - margin 12,670.
Mail-in ballots: 65.32% for Biden and 34.68% for Trump.
Mail-in ballots increased from 213,033 in 2016 to 1,305,659 in 2020.

Violations of Election Law:

The Secretary of State unilaterally abrogated signature verification requirements for mail-in ballots.
The Secretary of State authorized opening and processing mail-in ballots up to three weeks before election day when the law prohibits that until after the polls open on election day.
The Secretary of State materially weakened the security requirements for ballot rejection based on signature verification or other missing information.

Evidence of Fraud:

Mail-in ballot rejection rate for missing or inaccurate information or for non-matching signatures decreased from 6.42% in 2016 to .36% in 2020. Rejecting 2020 ballots at the same rate as 2016 would have resulted in a net gain of 25,587 votes for Trump ? twice the number needed to overcome Biden?s count. With a six-fold increase in the number of mail-in ballots, reason would indicate that the rejection rate would increase, or at least stay the same, with so many first-time mail-in ballots.

Atlanta is also the place where Dem vote counters were caught on video taking boxes of ballots out from under a covered table and counting them after they sent all the poll observers home for the night. I don't remember which network it was on but they actually (hilariously) had a GA election official review the video tape with them during a live broadcast and explain that it was standard operating procedure, nothing out of the ordinary.

Michigan

Facts:

Vote Tally: 2,796,702 for Biden and 2,650,695 for Trump - margin 146,007.
In 2016 587,618 voters requested mail-in ballots. In 2020 3.2 million votes were cast by mail-in ballot.
Democrats voted by mail at a rate approximately two times that of Republican voters.

Violations of Election Law:

The Secretary of State unilaterally abrogated signature verification requirements for mail-in ballots.
The Secretary of State sent out unsolicited ballots to all 7.7 million registered voters contrary to election law which requires a voter to request a mail-in ballot through a process that includes a signature to be matched with the voter registration.
The Secretary of State also allowed absentee ballots to be requested online without signature verification.
Local election officials in Wayne County -- containing 322,925 more ballots for Biden than for Trump -- opened and processed mail-in ballots without poll-watchers present.
Local election officials in Wayne County also ignored the strict election law requirements of placing a written statement or stamp on each ballot envelope indicating that the voter signature was in fact checked and verified with the signature on file with the state.

Evidence of Fraud:

174,384 mail-in ballots in Wayne County had no valid registration number, indicating they likely resulted from election workers running the same ballots through the tabulator multiple times.
71% of Wayne County Absent Voter Counting Boards were unbalanced, where the number of people who checked in did not match the number of ballots cast.

That 71% came from Detroit, where 100% of AVCBs were unbalanced - not a single one was balanced. Here's a link to the Wayne County Statement of Votes Report from a prior election thread. Not a single AV cast in Detroit was linked to voting precinct or validated as coming from a registered voter. Every other municipality reports 100% of AVs by precinct.

Here's an example of why it's so hard to detect. If you click on "U.S. President" under the "Precinct by Precinct Reports" section you will get the "The Statement of Votes Report" for Wayne County. The vast majority of precincts in Detroit had between 12 and 18% turnout on election day across 503 precincts. For the rest of the county, especially the presumably pro Trump sections, it's 22-28%. if you include the Absentee Vote Counting Board those percentages shoot up well north of 80%, but you can't compare that to Detroit because they didn't include AV votes by precinct.

If you go all the way down to page 117, you see Detroit pop up again with Absentee Vote Counting Board 1 thru AVCB 134 which don't include registered voter data. This accounts for about 173k absentee ballots cast which are unverified as to whether they actually came from a registered voter. This only happened in Detroit - every other Wayne County municipality reported AVs by precinct - every one, but not a single one of Detroits 503 precincts did. Of those 173k AVs, almost 150k showed up in one dump at 4am of which it's been reported that 97% went for Biden - that's virtually impossible, Trump could probably get more than 3% of the Chinese Communist Party to vote for him if they were allowed. So you have 173k unaccounted for ballots - not linked to a registered voter that can't be or simply weren't verified as belonging to registered voters, unlike 100% of the other precincts in Wayne county. Then you have people who challenged the authenticity of the ballots and the count were threatened, denied access to observe and ultimately they hung cardboard on the windows to prevent them from being observed. Witnesses who saw the 4am ballot dump and say it was counted in an impossibly small amount of time. Eye witnesses have also said they saw vote counters tampering with the tabulators. Many of these eyewitnesses signed affidavits as to what they saw. Also, as of four days ago, both Republicans who were doxed and received death threats until they flipped their votes to validate the election, are seeking to rescind their votes to certify.

That, in your mind is ZERO evidence of potential large scale voter fraud because the people accused of it say it didn't happen and anyone who challenges the legitimacy of the elections in districts where stuff like this happened is a lunatic conspiracy theorist.
 
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So eve if they found out Trump won AZ (which he didn't), that's only 246 electoral votes, and Joe Biden is still your president

Wrong it would then domino for demands of the same full audit in other states it was the same playbook elsewhere. It all falls down
 
Wrong it would then domino for demands of the same full audit in other states it was the same playbook elsewhere. It all falls down

If there was the interwebs back in 1960, folks woulda been arguin? about the the election on the net back then.

Folks still would be.
 
If there was the interwebs back in 1960, folks woulda been arguin? about the the election on the net back then.

Folks still would be.

the "Election fraud" theory is kinda like the Republitards' version of the Libtards' "Russian influence" bullshit in the last election.

The rubes get fed some nonsense to keep them all agitated by a system rigged against their interests completely by the wealthy and powerful.
 
Well, maybe not so much:
unlike Trump, Cleveland graciously conceded to his opponent, Sen. Benjamin Harrison of Indiana. What?s more, Cleveland not only attended Harrison?s inauguration on a rainy day, but even held an umbrella over the new president as he delivered his inauguration speech.​
Power moves from Cleveland.

Okay, sure.

But there were charges of voter fraud all the way back then.

1888.

Nothing new.

That?s my point.
 
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Okay, sure.

But there were charges of voter fraud all the way back then.

1888.

Nothing new.

That?s my point.

I guess my point would be they weren't still making them 9 months later, and weren't all pissy about them during the inauguration.

Grover Cleveland took his L like a man, and stayed in the fight. Not sure what Trump's doing. it looked like he was still just trying to make a buck off his supporters, who are less and less enthusiastic for him, now that he's been branded a "has been" and the powers that be are ignoring him.

That's the thing about appeals to authoritarians... gotta be out there urging your supporters to crack heads (of guys who can't fight back)... can't be all like "get vaccinated." like some soy-boy libtard. or chicom.
 
I guess my point would be they weren't still making them 9 months later, and weren't all pissy about them during the inauguration.

Grover Cleveland took his L like a man, and stayed in the fight. Not sure what Trump's doing. it looked like he was still just trying to make a buck off his supporters, who are less and less enthusiastic for him, now that he's been branded a "has been" and the powers that be are ignoring him.

That's the thing about appeals to authoritarians... gotta be out there urging your supporters to crack heads (of guys who can't fight back)... can't be all like "get vaccinated." like some soy-boy libtard. or chicom.

There probably would have been if there had been the interwebs back then.

I hope you?re right about Trump losing his appeal.

Next time around, the Rs need to nominate someone like Larry Elder.
 
Grover raped a woman [she accused him] in the 1870s and took the resulting child from her and gave it away. Then had her committed to an asylum. You know ?the manly thing to do.?

Then, at 49, he married a 21-year-old daughter of a long time family friend. Even in the late 19th century, this seems unseemly.

He hid from the American People his extensive mouth surgery in 1893 to remove much of his upper left jaw and hard palate to eradicate cancer. A second surgery was performed to restore his face to normal. The cover story was ?two bad teeth.? The operations were performed on a friend's yacht. The American People did not learn of the surgery for 24 years -- in 1917 -- nine years after Cleveland died.

To date, Cleveland is the only president to serve two non-consecutive terms, as I am sure all of you are aware.
 
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Grover raped a woman [she accused him] in the 1870s and took the resulting child from her and gave it away. Then had her committed to an asylum. You know ?the manly thing to do.?

Then, at 49, he married a 21-year-old daughter of a long time family friend. Even in the late 19th century, this seems unseemly.

He hid from the American People his extensive mouth surgery in 1893 to remove much of his upper left jaw and hard palate to eradicate cancer. A second surgery was performed to restore his face to normal. The cover story was ?two bad teeth.? The operations were performed on his yacht.

To date, Cleveland is the only president to serve two non-consecutive terms, as I am sure all of you are aware.

Huh. They didn't teach us all that stuff in American history class. I wonder why? :hmm:
 
Huh. They didn't teach us all that stuff in American history class. I wonder why? :hmm:

All we ever learned about was the history of slavery in the South and Jim Crow and bigotry, same as they were showing on television shows like ?Roots? and ?All in the Family.?

No need to give it it?s own fancy newfangled name, we just called it school and history and watchin? TV.
 
I guess my point would be they weren't still making them 9 months later, and weren't all pissy about them during the inauguration.

Grover Cleveland took his L like a man, and stayed in the fight. Not sure what Trump's doing. it looked like he was still just trying to make a buck off his supporters, who are less and less enthusiastic for him, now that he's been branded a "has been" and the powers that be are ignoring him.

That's the thing about appeals to authoritarians... gotta be out there urging your supporters to crack heads (of guys who can't fight back)... can't be all like "get vaccinated." like some soy-boy libtard. or chicom.

You Keep Using That Word, I Do Not Think It Means What You Think It Means. As recently as August 22, Trump was telling his supporters to get vaccinated. Of course he advocates for informed consent, which according to you is authoritarian unlike companies, schools and government agencies mandating vaccines - that's not at all authoritarian.
 
As recently as August 22, Trump was telling his supporters to get vaccinated. Of course he advocates for informed consent?

There were a lot of good things about that guy.

It?s just too bad he?s insane.
 
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Grover raped a woman [she accused him] in the 1870s and took the resulting child from her and gave it away. Then had her committed to an asylum. You know ?the manly thing to do.?

Then, at 49, he married a 21-year-old daughter of a long time family friend. Even in the late 19th century, this seems unseemly.

He hid from the American People his extensive mouth surgery in 1893 to remove much of his upper left jaw and hard palate to eradicate cancer. A second surgery was performed to restore his face to normal. The cover story was ?two bad teeth.? The operations were performed on his yacht.

To date, Cleveland is the only president to serve two non-consecutive terms, as I am sure all of you are aware.

And that makes Trump look like a choir boy.

We just went from a guy that offended half the country but put America first to a brain aneurysm damaged imbecile driving the county into total collapse at break neck speed

God help us all
 
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Then, at 49, he married a 21-year-old daughter of a long time family friend. Even in the late 19th century, this seems unseemly.


Sounds like consenting adults to me. :shrug:
 
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