Election Aftermath

[byco42]

We have the freedom of speech in America, as long as you say "socialism always bad." You don't even need to say it eloquently, or in grammatically correct English.

if you don't, a lot of doors close on you, including government ones.

it is kinda hilarious that after all the "Russia Russia Russia!" hysteria for the past 4 years, they couldn't find anyone without some tie to that place

I see that this comment is a response to mine, but I do not see the reason why you quoted mine.

 

[Michchamp]

I see that this comment is a response to mine, but I do not see the reason why you quoted mine.

Pat Toomey wants to examine her thesis on Marxism. it was the subject of the first link you cited. was commenting on that

I assume it's much about nothing... she wouldn't be up for nomination if Wall Street & big business had any concerns about "pliability"

 

[byco42]

Pat Toomey wants to examine her thesis on Marxism. it was the subject of the first link you cited. was commenting on that

I assume it's much about nothing... she wouldn't be up for nomination if Wall Street & big business had any concerns about "pliability"

It?s enough about something that it was removed from her CV and was written six years ago. I?d like to read it.

 

[tinselwolverine]

The Royal House of Biden?s selection for Comptroller of the Currency is a Saule Omarova. She?ll need senate approval to serve. She was also an advisor in the Royal House of Bush II reign.

Someone has the temerity to request more information from her, which is never done, apparently, especially when what is being sought was removed from one?s CV.

Link.

Omavora is a graduate of Moscow State University and her education was subvented through the Lenin Personal Academic Scholarship.

Bio

I mean, what does this mean, ultimately? This Cornell professor is more of a statist than the rest of the statists that invest the Federal government? Still ?

I liked her on ?The Apprentice.?

She was on both ?The Apprentice? and ?Celebrity Apprentice.?

I was sad for her when the big bald black guy she was engaged to died.

 

[tigermud]

A growing number of likely voters believe that cheating tainted President Joe Biden?s 2020 win over former President Donald Trump, and even more feel that a key Democratic election reform scheme will increase fraud.

In the latest Rasmussen Reports survey, 56% of respondents said, "It?s likely that cheating affected the outcome of the 2020 presidential election, including 41% who say it?s ?very likely.??

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...win-tainted-56-say-it-was-a-cheaters-paradise

 

[Spartanmack]

We have the freedom of speech in America, as long as you say "socialism always bad." You don't even need to say it eloquently, or in grammatically correct English.

if you don't, a lot of doors close on you, including government ones.

it is kinda hilarious that after all the "Russia Russia Russia!" hysteria for the past 4 years, they couldn't find anyone without some tie to that place

I doubt they even tried - seems more than likely the connection is a big reason for her nomination.

 

[tigermud]

it's only a matter of time, the whole thing is going up in smoke

A Biden administration official confirmed that disruptive supply shortages will make it difficult for the American people to buy Christmas gifts this year.

The bottlenecks in shipping and supply shortages brought on by the Federal Reserve?s inflationary policies are causing food and energy prices to skyrocket.

 

[tigermud]

We have the freedom of speech in America, as long as you say "socialism always bad." You don't even need to say it eloquently, or in grammatically correct English.

if you don't, a lot of doors close on you, including government ones.

it is kinda hilarious that after all the "Russia Russia Russia!" hysteria for the past 4 years, they couldn't find anyone without some tie to that place

Capitalism leads to unequal levels of wealth. socialism leads to equal levels of poverty.

 

[tigermud]

https://youtu.be/QUqGiCrPCKA

 

[Sbee]

A growing number of likely voters believe that cheating tainted President Joe Biden?s 2020 win over former President Donald Trump, and even more feel that a key Democratic election reform scheme will increase fraud.

In the latest Rasmussen Reports survey, 56% of respondents said, "It?s likely that cheating affected the outcome of the 2020 presidential election, including 41% who say it?s ?very likely.??

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...win-tainted-56-say-it-was-a-cheaters-paradise

Too bad none of that was proven in court after the election. You can lie your ass off on social media, you can lie your ass off on cable news, but you can't do it in court or you'll get disbarred.

 

[tigermud]

Too bad none of that was proven in court after the election. You can lie your ass off on social media, you can lie your ass off on cable news, but you can't do it in court or you'll get disbarred.

Yup and good thing that all got squashed thanks to Jan 6 events never to be allowed to question ever again.

 

[Sbee]

Yup and good thing that all got squashed thanks to Jan 6 events never to be allowed to question ever again.

Come on, you can legally challenge anything if you have evidence. There wasn't any, just speculation and outrage.

Trump spent the last 3 months of the campaign making his case against the election process, not his opposition. He said all along, there were only two options, he wins or the dems cheated. To him, it was completely impossible that a presidential election, which is generally decided by a few counties in a few key states could go against him, even though he never polled about 50% and had low approval ratings. It was either a Trump win or a conspiracy, nothing else.

Don't worry, there will be a challenge in 2024. I can guarantee a few things, Trump will run, get the nomination, and say that he won the day after the election regardless of the outcome.

 

[Spartanmack]

Come on, you can legally challenge anything if you have evidence. There wasn't any, just speculation and outrage.

this is simply not true. the rest of the post was just conjecture.

 

[tigermud]

Come on, you can legally challenge anything if you have evidence. There wasn't any, just speculation and outrage.

Trump spent the last 3 months of the campaign making his case against the election process, not his opposition. He said all along, there were only two options, he wins or the dems cheated. To him, it was completely impossible that a presidential election, which is generally decided by a few counties in a few key states could go against him, even though he never polled about 50% and had low approval ratings. It was either a Trump win or a conspiracy, nothing else.

Don't worry, there will be a challenge in 2024. I can guarantee a few things, Trump will run, get the nomination, and say that he won the day after the election regardless of the outcome.

I?d prefer desantis at this time, trump is too much of a lighting rod

 

[tigermud]

this is simply not true. the rest of the post was just conjecture.

We?ll never know now thanks to useful idiots allowing themselves to be setup by Q string operation trust the plan string along artists

 

[Sbee]

this is simply not true. the rest of the post was just conjecture.

63 lawsuits, one ruling in Trump's favor, which was later overturned.

The argument that the election was fraudulent is all speculation and conjecture, there is no evidence that would stand up in court.

 

[byco42]

I contend that it takes longer than a few weeks to compile a case of voter fraud of this scope.

 

[Spartanmack]

63 lawsuits, one ruling in Trump's favor, which was later overturned.

The argument that the election was fraudulent is all speculation and conjecture, there is no evidence that would stand up in court.

thanks for the topline numbers, this must mean there is not evidence since the courts never get anything wrong. Maybe read the Arizona audit report or the Wayne County vote report, read about how the PA AG abrogated the state constitution to destroy election security then tell us how there is no evidence.

For your convenience, here's a summary Byco posted a while back of some of the evidence you say doesn't exist:

"Mail-in ballots are extremely susceptible to fraud" - Jerry Nadler. Well, it appears that he's possibly correct.

A Summary of the Texas Election Lawsuit

Texas claims that the violations of election law in these states created an environment where ballot fraud was enabled and likely to occur. The lawsuit lists the violations of law in each of the defendant states and provides evidence of fraud (the number of ballots handled unconstitutionally) in each of the states sufficient to change the outcome of the ballot counts.

Pennsylvania

Facts:

Vote Tally: 3,445,548 for Biden and 3,363,951 for Trump - margin 81,597.
Requests for mail-in ballots 70% Democrats and 25% Republicans.
Mail-in ballots increased from 266,208 in 2016 to over 3,000,000 in 2020.

Violations of Election Law:

The Secretary of State unilaterally abrogated signature verification requirements for mail-in ballots.
PA supreme court changed existing deadline for receiving mail-in ballots from 8:00 PM on the day of election to 3 days after the election and adopted a presumption that non-postmarked ballots be considered as valid.
Election officials in Philadelphia and Allegheny Counties did not follow state law permitting poll-watchers to be present for the opening, counting, and recording of mail-in ballots.
The Secretary of State directed election officials to remove ballots before 7:00 AM on the day of election in order to ?cure? defective mail-in ballots. This was done only in Democrat majority counties.
Election officials did not segregate ballots received after 8:00 PM on election day breaking the promise made to the U.S. Supreme Court thus making it impossible to identify or remove those ballots.
Evidence of Fraud:

Ballots with no mailed date: 9,005 (no evidence they were sent to a voter)
Ballots returned on or before the mailed date: 58,221
Ballots returned one day after the mailed date: 51,200 (Perhaps not impossible, but highly unlikely for the average voter to receive a ballot, fill it out, place it in the mail and have it returned the next day.)
On Nov 2, the day before the election, PA reports that 2.7 million ballots had been sent out. On Nov 4 that number had increased to 3.1 million -- an increase of 400,000 mail-in ballots at election time with literally no reasonable chance of them being used by legitimate voters.

Georgia

Facts:

Vote Tally: 2,472,098 for Biden and 2,458,121 for Trump - margin 12,670.
Mail-in ballots: 65.32% for Biden and 34.68% for Trump.
Mail-in ballots increased from 213,033 in 2016 to 1,305,659 in 2020.

Violations of Election Law:

The Secretary of State unilaterally abrogated signature verification requirements for mail-in ballots.
The Secretary of State authorized opening and processing mail-in ballots up to three weeks before election day when the law prohibits that until after the polls open on election day.
The Secretary of State materially weakened the security requirements for ballot rejection based on signature verification or other missing information.

Evidence of Fraud:

Mail-in ballot rejection rate for missing or inaccurate information or for non-matching signatures decreased from 6.42% in 2016 to .36% in 2020. Rejecting 2020 ballots at the same rate as 2016 would have resulted in a net gain of 25,587 votes for Trump ? twice the number needed to overcome Biden?s count. With a six-fold increase in the number of mail-in ballots, reason would indicate that the rejection rate would increase, or at least stay the same, with so many first-time mail-in ballots.

Michigan

Facts:

Vote Tally: 2,796,702 for Biden and 2,650,695 for Trump - margin 146,007.
In 2016 587,618 voters requested mail-in ballots. In 2020 3.2 million votes were cast by mail-in ballot.
Democrats voted by mail at a rate approximately two times that of Republican voters.

Violations of Election Law:

The Secretary of State unilaterally abrogated signature verification requirements for mail-in ballots.
The Secretary of State sent out unsolicited ballots to all 7.7 million registered voters contrary to election law which requires a voter to request a mail-in ballot through a process that includes a signature to be matched with the voter registration.
The Secretary of State also allowed absentee ballots to be requested online without signature verification.
Local election officials in Wayne County -- containing 322,925 more ballots for Biden than for Trump -- opened and processed mail-in ballots without poll-watchers present.
Local election officials in Wayne County also ignored the strict election law requirements of placing a written statement or stamp on each ballot envelope indicating that the voter signature was in fact checked and verified with the signature on file with the state.

Evidence of Fraud:

174,384 mail-in ballots in Wayne County had no valid registration number, indicating they likely resulted from election workers running the same ballots through the tabulator multiple times.
71% of Wayne County Absent Voter Counting Boards were unbalanced, where the number of people who checked in did not match the number of ballots cast.

Wisconsin

Facts:

Vote Tally: 1,630,716 for Biden and 1,610,151 for Trump - margin 20,565.
Mail-in ballots increased from 146,932 in 2016 to 1,275,019 in 2020.
Violations of Election Law:

The Wisconsin Elections Commission (WEC) positioned hundreds of unmanned illegal drop boxes to collect absentee ballots. (The use of any drop box, manned or unmanned, is directly prohibited by Wisconsin statute. Any alternate mail-in ballot site ?shall be staffed by the municipal clerk or the executive director of the board of election commissioners?? ?Ballots cast in contravention of the procedures specified in those provisions may not be included in the certified result of any election.?)
The WEC encouraged voters to unlawfully declare themselves ?indefinitely confined? in order to avoid security measures like signature verification and photo ID requirements. Nearly 216,000 voters said they were indefinitely confined in the 2020 election, nearly four times as many as in 2016.
Strict laws requiring mail-in voters to certify by signature including the signature of an adult witness were ignored or circumvented by election officials.
Evidence of Fraud:

One hundred thousand ballots were supposedly missing and directed to be ?found? after election day.

Conclusion

Significant violations of election law that were put into place to protect against election fraud is sufficient to invalidate the results of the elections, apart from whatever evidence is able to be gathered in a short time to show actual numbers of fraudulent ballots. Reason would indicate that there is a high number of fraudulent ballots that are impossible to identify, which is why the election laws pertaining to mail-in ballots were established to begin with.

There is no remedy to correct the Nov 3rd election because ballots that did not adhere to election law cannot be identified as separate from those that did. An accurate count of legal ballots that were cast cannot be made. Therefore, as directed in the Constitution, it falls to the legislature of each state to choose electors as has been done in the past. Failing that, each state may determine not to submit any presidential electors.

The Texas lawsuit claims the odds of Biden overcoming Trump?s lead and winning any of the states after the point indicated was one in a quadrillion. And therefore, the odds of winning all four was one in a quadrillion to the fourth power. The lawsuit did not provide information on how that number was determined. This may seem an exaggeration to some. It is enough to state that the odds of winning any one of the states was highly unlikely and the odds of winning all four were extremely unlikely. For example, if the odds of winning any one of the states was numerically much less extreme but still highly unlikely, say something like one in twenty, then the odds of doing that in all four states would be 1 in 160,000. Twenty beans in a jar: 19 white and 1 black. Reach in without looking and be lucky enough to pull out the one black bean. Chances of doing that again is 1 in 400. Clearly indicative of cheating if someone claims to have done that four times in a row. As I said the statistical analysis behind the claim of odds of 1 in a 1,000,000,000,000 are not given so I cannot speak to that. But even if the odds were orders of magnitude better than that, they were still astronomically small. At any rate, the merits of the lawsuit do not depend on any certain level of odds of Biden overcoming a lead that had been established by 3:00 A.M. the day after election.

Filed on December 7, 2020. Thrown out by SCOTUS on December 11, 2020.

and some additional examples of election security issues...

In Atlanta Dem vote counters were caught on video taking boxes of ballots out from under a covered table and counting them after they sent all the poll observers home for the night. I don't remember which network it was on but they actually (hilariously) had a GA election official review the video tape with them during a live broadcast and explain that it was standard operating procedure, nothing out of the ordinary.

In Detroit 100% of AVCBs were unbalanced - not a single one was balanced. Here's a link to the Wayne County Statement of Votes Report from a prior election thread. Not a single AV cast in Detroit was linked to voting precinct or validated as coming from a registered voter. Every other municipality reports 100% of AVs by precinct.

But Joe Biden won in court so the election was secure and fair.

 

[Sbee]

But Joe Biden won in court so the election was secure and fair.

The Department of Homeland Security certainly agrees with that the election was secure and fair.

 

[Michchamp]

The Department of Homeland Security certainly agrees with that the election was secure and fair.

Honestly, it probably wasn't, but it wasn't in 2004 or 2000 either. And hell, in 2016 & 2020, the DNC openly screwed Bernie, and did everything in their power to force him out or ignore states he won. Biden hadn't won a single primary until South Carolina - a state the Democrats never carry in the general election anyway - but after that, somehow everyone dropped out and backed Biden?

The dumbass Republitards who post here are just pissed off because the guys in the intelligence agencies who fuck with our elections decided their guy Trump wasn't cutting it. and according to the wikileaks cables, they openly said the same thing in 2008 when they put their finger on the scale for Obama.

Just like with censorship, and with domestic spying: they have no problem with these things from a moral or legal perspective as long as they get to be the ones doing them.