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Election Aftermath

LOL, the schadenfreude is immense. Trump is about to be indicted for mishandling classified materials.

Were you talking about yourself (it's not a compliment) or do you not know what schadenfreude means?

And if Trump is going to be indicted, why wasn't Hillary indicted for mishandling classified materials? No FBI raid of her home when it was found that she maintained a private server with 10s of thousands of classified emails when she was Secretary of State. No FBI raid - she was allowed to scrub the server before it was handed over to investigators, her staff took hammers to cell phones that were also under subpoena AFTER they received the subpoena. Then, a judge blocked blocked a request to subpoena for her to testify under oath by those investigating her.

Hillary Clinton paid for fabricated opposition research then authorized her campaign attorneys to use the now wholly debunked Steele dossier to illegally obtain warrants from the FISA court to spy on her political opponent and falsely accuse him of colluding with Russia - all while she was colluding with Ukraine to illegally interfere in the our election. Her campaign manager testified at her attorneys trial that she and the attorney knew the dossier was fake, and her attorney still was acquitted by a liberal DC jury. She was never charged with a crime.

As first lady, Hillary left the white house with documents that she was supposed to turn over years before under a court issued subpoena. She somehow happened across them in her home one day a decade plus later. Again, no FBI raid, not charges brought for obstruction, not even a slap on the wrist.

Of note, Hillary was SoS when her email server was in use and had every right to possess the highest classified documents. Orange fat ass is a private citizen, he no longer has rights to possess a shred of classified information. Even more noteworthy is that Trump's own appointed head of the FBI signed off on the warrant.

LOCK HIM UP! LOCK HIM UP! LOCK HIM UP! LOCK HIM UP! LOCK HIM UP! LOCK HIM UP! LOCK HIM UP!

Of note, this is completely false - Hillary did not have every right to possess classified information of any sort, let alone top secret information on her unreported, private, unsecured email server kept in a closet in her home maintained by nongovernmental personnel. If you truly believe that was not illegal, you're grossly misinformed. If you're not misinformed, then you're merely a partisan hack pushing lies to dismiss her criminality.

Fantastic day for the country, no one is above the law. Very telling that Mar a Lago was raided and the news media had to guess for a while which major investigation this was in relation to. Was it Trump trying to overthrow the election? Was it the crimes in Georgia he's on tape committing? His fraudulent charity that bilked money from disabled veterans? His many sex assault accusations, one in civil court where he's been ordered to provide DNA? Did he hold onto Jeff Epstein evidence? Or any of the dozens of other crimes he's being investigated for by every law enforcement agency in the country.

Well, it's pretty clear the Clinton's are above the law and in case you haven't been paying attention, the Biden's are too. As VP, Joe Biden interfered with a corruption investigation of a Ukranian energy company that employed his crackhead son which we now learned he directly benefited from financially -it's not a secret, there's video of Joe Biden at a campaign event openly bragging about blackmailing the Ukranian government to fire the prosecutor investigating his son.

Also as VP, Joe Biden flew his crackhead son to China and introduced him around to powerful CCP officials and oligarchs resulting in his crackhead son beat out the world's top investment banks and private equity funds to win $1.6B investment from the Chinese sovereign fund. Thanks to his crackhead son being a crackhead, we know Joe benefited directly from that as well. All of that is out in the open and all of it is illegal and because of it, our milquetoast president is totally compromised - he's everything they lied to you about Donald Trump being. I'm sure you don't believe JB never talked to his son about his foreign business dealings - you just don't care because he doesn't say mean things on twitter.

The idea that no one is above the law and this isn't anything more than a partisan witch hunt going after political opponents is complete and utter nonsense.
 
Trump is such a persecuted victim. What a cuck. Pathetic.

Why would Trump's own FBI director have it out for him and want to get involved in the political aspect of this? Trump took classified documents with him when he left the White House, by definition that's a crime, but the justice department gave him several months to turn it over, for some reason he didn't. That's why this happened.

Dems want Trump to run again, they don't think he can win. People are sick of extremism, that's why Dems supported extreme Trump loving Republicans in the primaries, they want to run against anti American MAGAs.

do you know what MAGA stands for? Are you one of those people that thinks there's a constitutional right to abortion but not to own a gun?

Gee, I bet it was really hard to find a judge who would improperly issue a subpoena since those judges, appointed by politicians are alwaya and only fair arbiters of justice. And Christopher Ray was promoted from within and as it turns out, was a huge mistake - for many reasons, not just this utter nonsense - the idea that somehow lends credence to the validity of this circus is pure garbage.
 
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Okay.

I?ve never been much of a defender of Trump, but your implication that the Saudi Royal Family was involved in 9/11 makes zero sense. Al Qaeda has always viewed the Saudi government as just as much an enemy of the land and the people as it does the United States.

Were there secret enemies of the government in high places who sympathized with Al Qaeda? It seems unlikely there weren?t - history is full of double agents with counter agendas.

https://www.npr.org/2021/09/12/1036...t-detailing-saudi-nationals-connections-to-9-
"This document, together with the public evidence gathered to date, provides a blueprint for how al-Qaida operated inside the U.S.," he said, "with the active, knowing support of the Saudi government."
 
Were you talking about yourself (it's not a compliment) or do you not know what schadenfreude means?

And if Trump is going to be indicted, why wasn't Hillary indicted for mishandling classified materials? No FBI raid of her home when it was found that she maintained a private server with 10s of thousands of classified emails when she was Secretary of State. No FBI raid - she was allowed to scrub the server before it was handed over to investigators, her staff took hammers to cell phones that were also under subpoena AFTER they received the subpoena. Then, a judge blocked blocked a request to subpoena for her to testify under oath by those investigating her.

Hillary Clinton paid for fabricated opposition research then authorized her campaign attorneys to use the now wholly debunked Steele dossier to illegally obtain warrants from the FISA court to spy on her political opponent and falsely accuse him of colluding with Russia - all while she was colluding with Ukraine to illegally interfere in the our election. Her campaign manager testified at her attorneys trial that she and the attorney knew the dossier was fake, and her attorney still was acquitted by a liberal DC jury. She was never charged with a crime.

As first lady, Hillary left the white house with documents that she was supposed to turn over years before under a court issued subpoena. She somehow happened across them in her home one day a decade plus later. Again, no FBI raid, not charges brought for obstruction, not even a slap on the wrist.



Of note, this is completely false - Hillary did not have every right to possess classified information of any sort, let alone top secret information on her unreported, private, unsecured email server kept in a closet in her home maintained by nongovernmental personnel. If you truly believe that was not illegal, you're grossly misinformed. If you're not misinformed, then you're merely a partisan hack pushing lies to dismiss her criminality.



Well, it's pretty clear the Clinton's are above the law and in case you haven't been paying attention, the Biden's are too. As VP, Joe Biden interfered with a corruption investigation of a Ukranian energy company that employed his crackhead son which we now learned he directly benefited from financially -it's not a secret, there's video of Joe Biden at a campaign event openly bragging about blackmailing the Ukranian government to fire the prosecutor investigating his son.

Also as VP, Joe Biden flew his crackhead son to China and introduced him around to powerful CCP officials and oligarchs resulting in his crackhead son beat out the world's top investment banks and private equity funds to win $1.6B investment from the Chinese sovereign fund. Thanks to his crackhead son being a crackhead, we know Joe benefited directly from that as well. All of that is out in the open and all of it is illegal and because of it, our milquetoast president is totally compromised - he's everything they lied to you about Donald Trump being. I'm sure you don't believe JB never talked to his son about his foreign business dealings - you just don't care because he doesn't say mean things on twitter.

The idea that no one is above the law and this isn't anything more than a partisan witch hunt going after political opponents is complete and utter nonsense.

Hilarious! Hunter Biden's laptop is the wingnut's new Buttery Males!

Hunter Biden... when you have Trump's own daughter and son in law getting $billions while they worked in the White House from the Saudi government. RFLMAO. All while Ivanka got her patents approved by the Chinese while her dad was literally in negotiations with the Chinese President on trade.

If you guys think Hunter Biden is going to be pay dirt, you're probably still waiting for Benghazi to be investigated for the 37th time. If you've got your eggs in the Hunter Biden basket, you've got nothing. Dude made like $60 grand sitting on the board of a company, probably got the gig because of his last name and Ivy League education.
 
All in all, kind of crappy timing on this for the Dems. Biden just delivered several major victories for the American people (Inflation Reduction Act, CHIPS semi conductor Bill, Burn Pit Bill, dynamite jobs report, Killed the mastermind of 9/11 etc). All that knocked off the headlines by this raid. Biden has just had a few of the best weeks of his presidency.

Do you actually think a massive spending bill with money we don't have will reduce inflation? Similar to the "a study shows you can most people to believe anything if you start with 'a study shows'", I guess you can convince people that inflationary spending is disinflationary if you call the bill "Inflation reduction act."

How is the CHIPS semiconductor bill a major victory? It's more corporate welfare for multibillion dollar corporations that don't need it. And why just semiconductors? Why not cut corporate taxes effectively incentivizing literally EVERY industry to invest in America creating jobs across the entire economy? The government has a horrible track record of picking industries and companies to support. Let the private sector do it - they're infinitely better at it.

The jobs report was good, but Joe didn't deliver that. We're still recovering from the shutdowns and we're seeing a reversal in the "Great Resignation" trend. For every good data point (and they're aren't many) there is plenty more negative news for the economy. "Hey look, gas is down $.70!" - yeah, it's still up over $2/gallon.

It's good that Zawahiri is dead, but it's not a major victory for the American people. Al Qaeda under his leadership hasn't been much of a threat, if anything it's diminished from an already depleted level. Killing him doesn't even come close to making up for the way he botched the withdrawal from Afghanistan. Joe Biden's foreign policy record is one of virtually complete failure. Even Obama's secretary of defense said Joe Biden has been wrong on every major foreign policy decision in the last 4 decades. The guy is a clown.

But the justice department doesn't really care about timing for politics. And you know that they had to check everything on the warrant about 30 times to make sure it was ironclad before executing it. Wray had to sign off, and then Garland. Will be interesting to see who the judge was. Cecilia M. Altonaga is the Federal Judge over Southern Florida, she was appointed by George Bush, but they might not have had to go to her. Might have gone to Bruce Reinhart, appointed by Trump in 2018 after he successfully defended Trump's best friend Jeff Epstein.

That's cute - you think the justice department is apolitical. Bill Clinton was Epstein's best friend - Trump had him thrown out of Mar A Lago.
 
Hilarious! Hunter Biden's laptop is the wingnut's new Buttery Males!

Hunter Biden... when you have Trump's own daughter and son in law getting $billions while they worked in the White House from the Saudi government. RFLMAO. All while Ivanka got her patents approved by the Chinese while her dad was literally in negotiations with the Chinese President on trade.

If you guys think Hunter Biden is going to be pay dirt, you're probably still waiting for Benghazi to be investigated for the 37th time. If you've got your eggs in the Hunter Biden basket, you've got nothing. Dude made like $60 grand sitting on the board of a company, probably got the gig because of his last name and Ivy League education.

Are you referring to the $2B deal Kushner landed this year - 2022? Two years AFTER Trump left office? yeah, a guy who has actual investment experience running a hedge fund getting money from an ally 2 years after his dad is out of office is EXACTLY the same thing as a sitting vice president selling out America's interests and using his crackhead son as a front man to do business with our enemies - an enemy who happens to be the single biggest thief of intellectual property and the single biggest threat to our national security (after domestic white supremacist terrorists, of course - per the apolitical and uncorruptible FBI).

Kushner may be the beneficiary of nepotism and he doesn't have the greatest track record as a hedge fund manager (at least he has a track record), but the idea that these two situations are even remotely similar is absurd. And Ivanka has trademarks, not patents that allow her to brand some baby clothes in China - I guess that's a lot like a $1.6B direct investment from the Chinese sovereign fund for a guy with literally no investment experience. Trump is literally a puppet of the Chinese government, while Biden is raising our standing on the global stage. You're really good at this - it's almost as if you're completely unaware of the facts.

Also, it's public knowledge that Hunter Biden, despite having no experience in the energy industry was paid $1mm per year to be on the board of Busrisma - that's quite a bit more than $60k, in fact it's $83 PER MONTH. It shouldn't need to be pointed out but I will - all this was while his dad was the sitting VP. He even used the power of his office to get a prosecutor who was investigating Burisma for corruption fired by then President Poroshenko. And Burisma cut Hunter off two months after the Obama administration was out of office so he probably wasn't hired for his Yale law degree.
 
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LOL, if by America first you mean Trump and his family making money first, whatever Russia wants 2nd, and America not in the top 10, Trump is your guy. He crushed our standing globally and weakened the US both abroad and at home for a generation. Our Democracy is hanging by a thread because Trump has brain dead zombies like you thinking there's some Deep State conspiracy that's infected the justice department and Congress. That Trump has 30% of the country thinking there was significant voter fraud when he didn't present a shred of evidence of it in 65 court cases he filed has done long lasting damage to our Democracy.

2020 was the first time in our nation's history that we did not have a peaceful transfer of power after a Presidential election.

in what way did he crush our standing globally? Putin didn't invade Ukraine, China wasn't as hostile toward Taiwan. He renegotiated horrible trade deals that hurt America, secured the border, crushed ISIS, got us out 2 wars, kept us out of another and made more progress on peace in the middle east than any President in our lifetime. His administration put more sanctions on Russia than any POTUS since the cold war. Do you mean he hurt our standing globally because other leaders didn't like him? Cry me a river because who give a $&*% what France, Germany, Italy, Australia, New Zealand, etc think about us?

It's not a coincidence Putin waited for Biden to get in office before invading Ukraine. Biden has also lifted tariffs on Chinese goods and eliminated the program investigating Chinese spies in American Universities - because he's compromised and weak. Him receiving praise from other world leaders is a sign of him weakening our standing, not strengthening it.

And our democracy is just fine - regardless of what MSNBC and CNN tell you about the mostly peaceful insurrection of January 6th.

Biden has an economy that produced more jobs just in July than Trump's economy produced in his 48 months in office combined. He's fighting global inflation caused by the pandemic, and he just killed the leader of Al Qaeda while Trump went golfing with the people who funded the 9/11 terror attacks. If America First means blowing the guys who took down the World Trade Center, Trump is winning that game for sure. Biden also has gotten more significant legislation passed in 18 months than Trump did in 4 years, including 3 bipartisan deals for Infrastructure, Semi Conductors, and Veterans benefits for Burn Pit issues. Trump cut taxes for the rich and tortured children at the border, that's his big list of accomplishments save for keeping NAFTA 99.999% intact and pretending he redid it.

Pandemics don't cause inflation. Inflation is purely a monetary issue and Biden poured gasoline on the fire with more profligate spending - way beyond what was needed. And much of it was wasted or stolen because there was no oversight over spending.
 
https://www.npr.org/2021/09/12/1036...t-detailing-saudi-nationals-connections-to-9-
"This document, together with the public evidence gathered to date, provides a blueprint for how al-Qaida operated inside the U.S.," he said, "with the active, knowing support of the Saudi government."

Yeah, the guy you quoted is a lawyer who was suing the Saudi government. Besides his claim, there is zero evidence provided to substantiate it. In fact everything else in the article contradicts it.

Also this isn?t news. We?ve known about it for a while. That?s why I acknowledged that there might have been people close to the government who were secretly acting against it.
 
Do you actually think a massive spending bill with money we don't have will reduce inflation? Similar to the "a study shows you can most people to believe anything if you start with 'a study shows'", I guess you can convince people that inflationary spending is disinflationary if you call the bill "Inflation reduction act."

How is the CHIPS semiconductor bill a major victory? It's more corporate welfare for multibillion dollar corporations that don't need it. And why just semiconductors? Why not cut corporate taxes effectively incentivizing literally EVERY industry to invest in America creating jobs across the entire economy? The government has a horrible track record of picking industries and companies to support. Let the private sector do it - they're infinitely better at it.

The jobs report was good, but Joe didn't deliver that. We're still recovering from the shutdowns and we're seeing a reversal in the "Great Resignation" trend. For every good data point (and they're aren't many) there is plenty more negative news for the economy. "Hey look, gas is down $.70!" - yeah, it's still up over $2/gallon.

It's good that Zawahiri is dead, but it's not a major victory for the American people. Al Qaeda under his leadership hasn't been much of a threat, if anything it's diminished from an already depleted level. Killing him doesn't even come close to making up for the way he botched the withdrawal from Afghanistan. Joe Biden's foreign policy record is one of virtually complete failure. Even Obama's secretary of defense said Joe Biden has been wrong on every major foreign policy decision in the last 4 decades. The guy is a clown.



That's cute - you think the justice department is apolitical. Bill Clinton was Epstein's best friend - Trump had him thrown out of Mar A Lago.

- should of thought of that before trump signed off on all those covid-mulus checks i got in the mail.

- you obviously havent been to a car lot recently.

- recovering from covid has nothing to do with having one of the lowest jobless rates...ever. If anything that should point to the fact that there should be higher unemployment. Companies care about money and thier bottom line...not how many covid cases there are.

- republicans cried about being there too long. Then Biden pulls out and they cry about that too. Dont they ever get sick of crying?
 
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- should of thought of that before trump signed off on all those covid-mulus checks i got in the mail.

Should "HAVE" thought of that. And I did think of that and was critical of all the spending under Trump as well.

- you obviously havent been to a car lot recently.

I'm not in the habit of hanging around in car lots but I was in several last November. What's your point?

- recovering from covid has nothing to do with having one of the lowest jobless rates...ever. If anything that should point to the fact that there should be higher unemployment. Companies care about money and thier bottom line...not how many covid cases there are.

recovering from an illness doesn't but I didn't say that. I said the economy was recovering from the massive layoffs from all the unnecessary and harmful shutdowns due to the misguided policy response to the pandemic. Having a low labor force participation rate DOES have a lot to do with the jobless rate however. the participation rate started to trend up during Trump's term but fell off a cliff to the lowest level ever (data going back to 1990) - again, due to the misguided response to the pandemic. It's trending up again finally (not because of anything Joe Biden has done) and it's keeping the jobless rate artificially low.

- republicans cried about being there too long. Then Biden pulls out and they cry about that too. Dont they ever get sick of crying?

I don't recall many people on either side of the aisle crying about being there too long except for a few conservatives and maybe Bernie Sanders. But I do recall many people saying the timing for the withdrawal and the timeline for the withdrawal were going to lead to disaster - and guess what happened? It was a disaster. The Taliban are now wearing US uniforms, carrying US rifles, driving US vehicles including tanks and using US weapons not to mention all the human rights atrocities they're committing.
 
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Pandemics don't cause inflation. Inflation is purely a monetary issue and Biden poured gasoline on the fire with more profligate spending - way beyond what was needed. And much of it was wasted or stolen because there was no oversight over spending.

Biden caused global inflation? LOL! He must be magic.

Spending? Surely you jest when it was Donald Trump who spent us into a $3 Trillion 2020 deficit and signed the 2021 budget which has a $2.& Trillion deficit. Don't worry though, Joe cut the Trump deficits by $1.5T this year.
 
LOL, if by America first you mean Trump and his family making money first, whatever Russia wants 2nd, and America not in the top 10, Trump is your guy. He crushed our standing globally and weakened the US both abroad and at home for a generation. Our Democracy is hanging by a thread because Trump has brain dead zombies like you thinking there's some Deep State conspiracy that's infected the justice department and Congress. That Trump has 30% of the country thinking there was significant voter fraud when he didn't present a shred of evidence of it in 65 court cases he filed has done long lasting damage to our Democracy.

2020 was the first time in our nation's history that we did not have a peaceful transfer of power after a Presidential election.

Biden has an economy that produced more jobs just in July than Trump's economy produced in his 48 months in office combined. He's fighting global inflation caused by the pandemic, and he just killed the leader of Al Qaeda while Trump went golfing with the people who funded the 9/11 terror attacks. If America First means blowing the guys who took down the World Trade Center, Trump is winning that game for sure. Biden also has gotten more significant legislation passed in 18 months than Trump did in 4 years, including 3 bipartisan deals for Infrastructure, Semi Conductors, and Veterans benefits for Burn Pit issues. Trump cut taxes for the rich and tortured children at the border, that's his big list of accomplishments save for keeping NAFTA 99.999% intact and pretending he redid it.


No I mean by putting America's interest first vs that of china's and selling out to global interest over your own nations populous which is what he was doing. And i'll never believe that #2000 mules didn't put uncle buck into office brought to us by covid pandemic never let a good crises go to waste stay home stay safe drop box mail in harvesting. dinesh has all but proved it can and was likely.
 
FBI, DOJ, IRS it's all now weaponized against it's own populous. flags should be flown upside down
 
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All in all, kind of crappy timing on this for the Dems. Biden just delivered several major victories for the American people (Inflation Reduction Act, CHIPS semi conductor Bill, Burn Pit Bill, dynamite jobs report, Killed the mastermind of 9/11 etc). All that knocked off the headlines by this raid. Biden has just had a few of the best weeks of his presidency.

But the justice department doesn't really care about timing for politics. And you know that they had to check everything on the warrant about 30 times to make sure it was ironclad before executing it. Wray had to sign off, and then Garland. Will be interesting to see who the judge was. Cecilia M. Altonaga is the Federal Judge over Southern Florida, she was appointed by George Bush, but they might not have had to go to her. Might have gone to Bruce Reinhart, appointed by Trump in 2018 after he successfully defended Trump's best friend Jeff Epstein.

Yup that sure is interesting

https://nypost.com/2022/08/09/judge...on-mar-a-lago-once-linked-to-jeffrey-epstein/
 

?I?ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy,? Trump told New York Magazine that year for a story headlined ?Jeffrey Epstein: International Moneyman of Mystery.? ?He?s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it ? Jeffrey enjoys his social life.?

https://youtu.be/KLcfpU2cubo
 
Biden caused global inflation? LOL! He must be magic.

Spending? Surely you jest when it was Donald Trump who spent us into a $3 Trillion 2020 deficit and signed the 2021 budget which has a $2.& Trillion deficit. Don't worry though, Joe cut the Trump deficits by $1.5T this year.

Do you know the difference between a supply shock and inflation?

Who said Biden caused global inflation? If that's what you're implying - is he then solving global inflation with his new magic bill that you say is a huge win for the American people - do you want to correct that post or is he only solving global inflation for the American people?

Go back and read my posts - I was critical of all the spending under Trump as well and have been all along. I said Biden threw gas on the fire, which he did - some amount of spending may have been helpful, even appropriate but it's the excess that's the problem and by the time Biden came into office we were already well into excess spending. It's entirely appropriate to criticize him for making it worse, particularly if you were criticizing his predecessor for the same issue, which I have been.

You're either naive or you're trying to pull the same trick they did with Obama - massively increase recurring spending then give yourself credit for "reducing the deficit" because of an even bigger massive "one-time" emergency spending bill rolls off from the prior year. Fiscal responsibility!!!! That claim only works on people who don't understand how budgets work - the same people who think a $1.5T spending bill will reduce inflation because that's what they named the bill.
 
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?I?ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy,? Trump told New York Magazine that year for a story headlined ?Jeffrey Epstein: International Moneyman of Mystery.? ?He?s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it ? Jeffrey enjoys his social life.?

https://youtu.be/KLcfpU2cubo

that quote is from 2002. Trump banned Epstein from Mar A Lago in 2007 for inappropriate conduct with the underaged daughter of another member...

In 2019, Trump said this about Epstein...

?I knew him like everybody in Palm Beach knew him,? Trump told reporters at the White House of Epstein during an appearance with Qatari Emir Tamim bin Hamad Al Thani. ?I had a falling out a long time ago, I?d say maybe 15 years.

Trump banning Epstein from Mar A Lago is also noted in 2011 court filings in a case brought by victims of Epstein.

Even the authors of the anti-Trump book ?The Grifter?s Club: Trump, Mar-a-Lago, and the Selling of the Presidency? the authors admit Epstein?s penchant for young women apparently became an issue for Trump and Mar-a-Lago...
 
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What we have here is weaponized gumbit, no two ways about it. If that doesn't wake up every red blooded American, nothing will.
 
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