Executive order and Business ties

[Mitchrapp]

CNN is fake news, orange jesus said so

I don't think he is the first to say it. One thing I know, weather it's CNN, NBC, Fox News, Trump, Obama or whoever - from time to time they all talk shit. CNN just lies more :nod:

 

[biggunsbob]

Leaked? By who, CNN - a leftist paper? It has to be better than my insurance going to 120%

Mitch the GOP has no plan.. Did you miss the leaked conversion at the GOP conference?
Gop leaders are very worried the plan and or plans they have are flawed that will kill them in the next set of elections if they try. Just shows you that the lying hypocritical GOP leaders who campaigned on repealing and replacing Obamacare only wanted to use it on the campaign trails. Novel concept was trying to fix what was not working and make the ACA work and make it cheaper? But as you know McConnell couldn't have that man in the white house get a win. You know guys like Marco Rubio who crushed any hope the ACA had to be competitive and affordable..

 

[biggunsbob]

Times have changed. It's okay on Freedom and then people die. If we have a ban or wall it's still Freedom here. They're just not letting everyone in.. I'm an American and I still have the same rights and freedom I always had. You do know Obama limited refugee's as well?

Oh but there is a difference as Obama's and carter's never mentioned a religious group. How stupid is the JV team trump has ? Way to go dumb asses Get more Muslims to hate us.
I guess Graham and McCain think that same way too. Oh and even if Obama is at fault like all you righty's think guess what happened after that. A extreme Vetting process which is in place as we speak, and to forget the green card holders. This administration is clueless.

Trumps

Ban entry to the US for people born in seven majority Muslim countries - Syria, Iraq, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Yemen - including holders of legal green cards and visas - for 90 days
Suspending the Syrian refugee plan indefinitely
Suspending entire refugee plan for 120 days
Bans entry to the US for dual-nationality passport holders - meaning citizens of the above countries who also hold, for example, a British passport, are also banned for 90 days.
Prioritise Christian refugees over Muslims
Capped refugee total to 50,000

Did it out of the blue
Trump came up with his Muslim ban following the Orlando nightclub shooting, an attack committed not by refugees or migrants, but by a US citizen who was born in New York.
Of all the fatal terror attacks carried out on US soil since 9/11, exactly zero have been committed by immigrants from the seven majority Muslim countries targeted by the ban.
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Obama
Paused approvals of refugee applications from Iraq for a period of six months after two Iraqi al-Qaeda terrorists were discovered living as refugees in Kentucky.

What he didn't do was Base it on religion.

Obama's order - which was done with very little fanfare - selected Iraqi nationals based on geography and a specific event, not religion.

Do it out of the blue
It was done in response to a specific event, and to allow FBI agents enough to gather fingerprints from captured roadside bombs, which they used to toughen their refugee screening process
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Carters

Placed sanctions on Iran after they held 52 American diplomats hostage for 444 days
The sanctions included a block on all future visas issued to Iranian citizens
What he didn't do

Base it on religion
The block was targeted at Iranian nationals, not Muslims

Do it out of the blue
Carter's sanctions were the culmination of a long-running escalation of tensions between the US and Iran.

 

[biggunsbob]

Mccain and Graham come out and says the ban may help recruit terrorists

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-immigration-senators-idUSKBN15D11H

8th grader little Donny Trump tweets they want to start world war III.
American Presidency by twitter :/

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/t...ooking-to-start-world-war-iii/article/2613317

 

[tigermud]

I don't think he is the first to say it. One thing I know, weather it's CNN, NBC, Fox News, Trump, Obama or whoever - from time to time they all talk shit. CNN just lies more :nod:

I haven't watch much Clinton news network in years

 

[tigermud]

Mccain and Graham come out against the ban.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-immigration-senators-idUSKBN15D11H

8th grader little Donny Trump tweets they want to start world war III.
American president by twitter..

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/t...ooking-to-start-world-war-iii/article/2613317

He's right, mccain and graham are huge war mangers. Imo McCain should just retire already. completely agree with those tweets, although I also still think trump should ditch the twitter account and focus on the job now more so..

Quite screwing around on twitter and get back to work trump, still lots to do.

 

[biggunsbob]

He's right, mccain and graham are huge war mangers. Imo McCain should just retire already.

He just got voted in for 6 more years riding Orange Jesus coattails in that Red state that will soon be Blue hopefully, and BTW Donny Boy ran on massive investment in the military. As you know we do not need any more massive investment in the military, and what in that statement says World War III. Good old DT just gave the bad guys another poster to slap on the street corners. 'USA BANS MUSLIMS FROM UNITED STATES' yeah so maybe the two senators have a point.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Mccain and Graham come out and says the ban may help recruit terrorists

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-immigration-senators-idUSKBN15D11H

8th grader little Donny Trump tweets they want to start world war III.
American Presidency by twitter :/

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/t...ooking-to-start-world-war-iii/article/2613317

Oh you mean 2 republicans that hate Trump, and always has? Those 2?

Dems, and people who didn't vote are pissed. Why? Because Trump said he was going to do this and that, got elected, and is doing this and that - so they whine about it. I rather him do something, even if it fails - and no one knows that than have him not do what he has promised..

And what President always has a plan on everything when they say they're going to do something? Most America says Obama care either isn't working or needs to be replaced. I'll hold my judgement until I actually see his plan.

 

[biggunsbob]

Oh you mean 2 republicans that hate Trump, and always has? Those 2?

Dems, and people who didn't vote are pissed. Why? Because Trump said he was going to do this and that, got elected, and is doing this and that - so they whine about it. I rather him do something, even if it fails - and no one knows that than have him not do what he has promised..

And what President always has a plan on everything when they say they're going to do something? Most America says Obama care either isn't working or needs to be replaced. I'll hold my judgement until I actually see his plan.

Trumps team is a filled with Petro-Billionaires, and a right wing Facist so i am not holding my breath that he has this great plan to help people. I would gladly pay more to get everyone covered in America. We should all have the same healthcare as the people who represent us? The GOP has no viable Plan. If Trump wants to get everyone covered somehow I will support him.. He should do National health coverage . Because if he did we would have Mr Orange for 8 years. The GOP is pretty funny scrambling like they are. Like I said they had years to try and help Obama FIX the ACA... why didn't they since it appears to be getting a whole lot of people covered that couldn't get covered before.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Trumps team is a filled with Petro-Billionaires, and a right wing Facist so i am not holding my breath that he has this great plan to help people. I would gladly pay more to get everyone covered in America. We should all have the same healthcare as the people who represent us? The GOP has no viable Plan. If Trump wants to get everyone covered somehow I will support him.. He should do National health coverage . Because if he did we would have Mr Orange for 8 years. The GOP is pretty funny scrambling like they are. Like I said they had years to try and help Obama FIX the ACA... why didn't they since it appears to be getting a whole lot of people covered that couldn't get covered before.

I hope people don't lose coverage either but more important we need completion is some area, and lower prices. You say they had chances to fix it, you mean like the chance Dems have now to confirm cabinet seats, and not fight him on everything? You keep implying the "pubs are the reason why nothing was done. If you asked Barry he would say Obama care is perfect, even when some of the things he promised didn't come through with the ACA didn't happen.

 

[mhughes0021]

Mitch, you'd rather people be in detainment camps all over the country? Do you also wake up and say hail hitler every morning? A 5 year old was detained by himself for 5 hours today. Notable scientists told they had to leave the country. Basketball teams are checking to see if their players can travel lol. This is bat shit crazy....all in the name of keeping us safe? Um. ...last i checked we were safe. No one had attacked this country since 911 and alot of people think that was an inside job.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Mitch, you'd rather people be in detainment camps all over the country? Do you also wake up and say hail hitler every morning? A 5 year old was detained by himself for 5 hours today. Notable scientists told they had to leave the country. Basketball teams are checking to see if their players can travel lol. This is bat shit crazy....all in the name of keeping us safe? Um. ...last i checked we were safe. No one had attacked this country since 911 and alot of people think that was an inside job.

Because the ban went into effect just recently people got caught. As far as it hasn't happened that's not correct. The knife guy at Ohio State was a terrorist. Other instances as well..

 

[mhughes0021]

Because the ban went into effect just recently people got caught. As far as it hasn't happened that's not correct. The knife guy at Ohio State was a terrorist. Other instances as well..

The ohio state guy? Oh you mean the Somali legal permanent resident with a green card that said he was sick of how Americans treated Muslims because they were being killed and tortured. Thats not terrorism in my definition. He was living in terror....and got sick of it.

 

[Mitchrapp]

The ohio state guy? Oh you mean the Somali legal permanent resident with a green card that said he was sick of how Americans treated Muslims because they were being killed and tortured. Thats not terrorism in my definition. He was living in terror....and got sick of it.

He had a green card so what? He wasn't American. That was terrorism. He killed in the name of ISIS, hello Terrorism. How can you be okay with that? I know it's the political way but damn.. We now give a free pass to everyone?

 

[sggatecl]

He had a green card so what? He wasn't American. That was terrorism. He killed in the name of ISIS, hello Terrorism. How can you be okay with that? I know it's the political way but damn.. We now give a free pass to everyone?

He didn't kill anyone, fortunately.

 

[Mitchrapp]

He didn't kill anyone, fortunately.

Yes, Fortunately. Thankfully an officer happened to be near. But I think most think he was a terrorist. I should of said, he tried to kill in the name of ISIS.

 

[mhughes0021]

Yes, Fortunately. Thankfully an officer happened to be near. But I think most think he was a terrorist. I should of said, he tried to kill in the name of ISIS.

So just to get this straight....youre completely fine with a 5 year old being detained in an airport by himself for 5 hours.....because some idiot cut a some people with a knife at ohio state. Thats what youre saying? And care to explain how that makes any sense?

 

[sggatecl]

Yes, Fortunately. Thankfully an officer happened to be near. But I think most think he was a terrorist. I should of said, he tried to kill in the name of ISIS.

If you label him a terrorist, don't you have to apply that to anyone that's attempted murder? Is it just because he shouted some Muslim rhetoric that makes him a terrorist? I think Dylann Roof is more of a terrorist than OSU fuck boy but I don't know if I've ever heard him referred to as a terrorist before.

 

[Mitchrapp]

So just to get this straight....youre completely fine with a 5 year old being detained in an airport by himself for 5 hours.....because some idiot cut a some people with a knife at ohio state. Thats what youre saying? And care to explain how that makes any sense?

A 5 year old lived. And if he was really by himself then he has bad parents. They didn't have someone meet him or an airport staff member look after him?

And maybe those people in Ohio lived but guarantee they're frightened more than a 5 year old who will forget his ordeal soon.

 

[Mitchrapp]

If you label him a terrorist, don't you have to apply that to anyone that's attempted murder? Is it just because he shouted some Muslim rhetoric that makes him a terrorist? I think Dylann Roof is more of a terrorist than OSU fuck boy but I don't know if I've ever heard him referred to as a terrorist before.

Anyone, American or not who mass murder or try to IMO is a terrorist. Oklahoma bombing, terrorist. Roof, Terrorist. Maybe the ban is useless but it's here, lets see if it works in the long run.